Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #11

2016-12-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - My recollection is that part of the motivation for the use of zero-length strings as sentinel values in situations like this in MIB modules (rather than skipping the object instance) was to permit a clear distinction between "information not available" and "access denied". Randy On 12/15/2

Re: [netmod] Applied data store clarification in draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00

2016-12-15 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
> On Dec 15, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > Dean Bogdanovic mailto:ivand...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Authors, >> >> Need some clarification about applied data store >> >> In the draft, applied data store can contain data from >> >> This data can come from several source

Re: [netmod] Modelling different "levels" of data in YANG

2016-12-15 Thread Vladimir Vassilev
Hi, Here is a summary of the proposed solutions so far: * The solution with introduction of YANG statement "diagnostics true;", additional datastore and NETCONF protocol change. IMO that sounds heavy but valid solution. * The solution with RPC returning the data as output. IMO has the limitat

Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-wilton-netmod-intf-vlan-yang-04

2016-12-15 Thread Iftekhar Hussain
Yes/support. I have read this draft and believe it would be very useful for enabling many Layer 2 and Layer 3 services. However, I do have few comments and that I would like the authors to address once the document is a WG document. a) Suggest to replace this text: "These modules allow IE

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11

2016-12-15 Thread Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
Hi Alex, Thanks for your review. My comments are inline as [clyde]… On 12/13/16, 8:16 PM, "netmod on behalf of Alex Campbell" wrote: I am considering to implement the data model in this draft. I have reviewed this draft and found the following issues. In approximately decreasing

Re: [netmod] BBF work depending on draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01

2016-12-15 Thread William Lupton
The current draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01 defines ietf-hardware and iana-entity modules. Is it intended that iana-entity will become iana-hardware? Thanks, W. ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #13

2016-12-15 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:15:00PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/13 > > > > > > Should the model support pre-configuratio

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #13

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:15:00PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/13 > > > > Should the model support pre-configuration of hardware components? > > The current model supports pre-configuration of

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #13

2016-12-15 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:15:00PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/13 > > Should the model support pre-configuration of hardware components? > The current model supports pre-configuration of components provided > the operator knows t

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #12

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:03:40PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/12 > > > > entConfigChange is useful but maybe covered by netconf-config-change > > notification, or pub/sub. it is also a bad nam

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #12

2016-12-15 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:03:40PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/12 > > entConfigChange is useful but maybe covered by netconf-config-change > notification, or pub/sub. it is also a bad name, since it fires when > the opstate chang

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #11

2016-12-15 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:31:10PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Looking at the YANG fragment, I am also not sure how useful it is to > > carry the 32 'something' restriction forward. Note that 32 means > > unicode characters in YANG but space of the UTF-8 encoding of > > characters for SMIv

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #11

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > I do not think the goal should be to emulate SMIv2 compliance levels > using features. So I propose to do nothing about entity4CRCompliance. Ok. > The other question (which should perhaps have been a separate issue) > is whether non-existing values are indicated by

Re: [netmod] Applied data store clarification in draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Dean Bogdanovic wrote: > Authors, > > Need some clarification about applied data store > > In the draft, applied data store can contain data from > > This data can come from several sources; from , from dynamic > configuration protocols (e.g., DHCP), or from control-plane datastore. > >

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #11

2016-12-15 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
I do not think the goal should be to emulate SMIv2 compliance levels using features. So I propose to do nothing about entity4CRCompliance. The other question (which should perhaps have been a separate issue) is whether non-existing values are indicated by zero-length strings or non-existing object

[netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #13

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/13 Should the model support pre-configuration of hardware components? The current model supports pre-configuration of components provided the operator knows the name of the component to be installed. A more useful model would use the pa

[netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #12

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/12 entConfigChange is useful but maybe covered by netconf-config-change notification, or pub/sub. it is also a bad name, since it fires when the opstate changes... Need to think about which notifs to define. Currently we have three noti

[netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #11

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Issue https://github.com/netmod-wg/entity/issues/11 RFC 6933 introduced a new compliance level for constrained resources - entity4CRCompliance. Do we need a corresponding feature? In YANG, we cannot to the equivalent of compliance levels, so we would need to mark all nodes with some opti

[netmod] Applied data store clarification in draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00

2016-12-15 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
Authors, Need some clarification about applied data store In the draft, applied data store can contain data from This data can come from several sources; from , from dynamic configuration protocols (e.g., DHCP), or from control-plane datastore. The control-plane stores are not well clarified

Re: [netmod] BBF work depending on draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01

2016-12-15 Thread Benoit Claise
On 12/15/2016 2:57 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Benoit Claise wrote: Dear draft-ietf-netmod-entity authors, As mentioned by Tim Carey during the last IETF meeting, BBF work depends on the draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01. Message from BBF: We are now in the final stages of reviewing “TR-383” “

Re: [netmod] BBF work depending on draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01

2016-12-15 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Benoit Claise wrote: > Dear draft-ietf-netmod-entity authors, > > As mentioned by Tim Carey during the last IETF meeting, BBF work > depends on the draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01. > > Message from BBF: > >We are now in the final stages of reviewing “TR-383” “Common YANG” >modules that have

[netmod] BBF work depending on draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01

2016-12-15 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear draft-ietf-netmod-entity authors, As mentioned by Tim Carey during the last IETF meeting, BBF work depends on the draft-ietf-netmod-entity-01. Message from BBF: We are now in the final stages of reviewing “TR-383” “Common YANG” modules that have the following dependencies: *