Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-07 Thread Kent Watsen
But don't get mw wrong, syntactically annotations would be allowed everywhere although in some places they may be a no-op. OK This is also valid, see sec. 7.7.6 in RFC 6020: snip/ I see, thanks. True, I'd rather we can find a solution for annotating XML lists. Until then, the draft

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-07 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net writes: Maybe I don't understand your response, but if we agree that annotations are a server-level thing (not module-specific), then I do not agree that a module's description should be able to say that an annotation should be ignored in other modules. It

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net writes: 1. In Section 3, it says: snip/ Does this mean that the annotation A can be used by *any* module the server advertises, or just the modules that define/import annotation A? For all modules implemented by the server, no import is needed. Good,

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 01 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, ay - The set of annotations must be extensible in a distributed manner so as to allow for defining new

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com writes: Hi Lada, - In the introduction, you mention: Typical use cases are: o Deactivating a subtree in a configuration datastore while keeping the data in place. o Complementing data model information with instance-specific data.

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Kent Watsen
Maybe I don't understand your response, but if we agree that annotations are a server-level thing (not module-specific), then I do not agree that a module's description should be able to say that an annotation should be ignored in other modules. It depends on the annotation's semantics, and

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi Kent, thanks for reviewing the document. Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net writes: [As an individual contributor] Already many comments have been made, hopefully he below comments are new: 1. In Section 3, it says: By advertising a YANG module in which metadata annotation A is

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 01 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, ay - The set of annotations must be extensible in a distributed manner so as to allow for defining new annotations without running into the risk of collisions with annotations defined and

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, - In the introduction, you mention: Typical use cases are: o Deactivating a subtree in a configuration datastore while keeping the data in place. o Complementing data model

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Kent Watsen
1. In Section 3, it says: snip/ Does this mean that the annotation A can be used by *any* module the server advertises, or just the modules that define/import annotation A? For all modules implemented by the server, no import is needed. Good, but I think the text should say this

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 01 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, ay - The set of annotations must be extensible in a distributed manner so as to allow for defining new annotations without running into the risk

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
them before as soon as possible. Thanks! Kent From: Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net mailto:kwat...@juniper.net Date: Monday, June 15, 2015 at 6:49 PM To: netmod@ietf.org mailto:netmod@ietf.org netmod@ietf.org mailto:netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
[mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kent Watsen Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:14 AM To: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29) All, Today is the cutoff date for the Last Call for this draft, but the author indicated

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-30 Thread Kent Watsen
[As an individual contributor] Already many comments have been made, hopefully he below comments are new: 1. In Section 3, it says: By advertising a YANG module in which metadata annotation A is defined using the md:annotation statement, a server specifies support for the syntax of

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-29 Thread Kent Watsen
From: Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.netmailto:kwat...@juniper.net Date: Monday, June 15, 2015 at 6:49 PM To: netmod@ietf.orgmailto:netmod@ietf.org netmod@ietf.orgmailto:netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29) This is a notice to start

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-29 Thread Benoit Claise
mailto:netmod@ietf.org netmod@ietf.org mailto:netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29) This is a notice to start a NETMOD WG last call for the document Defining and Using Metadata with YANG: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-26 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:49:32PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: This is a notice to start a NETMOD WG last call for the document Defining and Using Metadata with YANG: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 Please indicate your support by Monday June 29, 2015 at 9PM

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 17 Jun 2015, at 13:51, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 01:41:56PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Well, but it is exactly what Kent objected against. It is the requirement to support “old clients” that causes the trouble here

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-17 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 17 Jun 2015, at 12:12, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Hi Martin, thanks for the review. Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: o Last paragraph of section 3 and the description in the

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi Martin, thanks for the review. Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: Hi, I have reviewed this document, and here are my comments. I have some technical issues; apart from that I think this document is ready for publication. I have also implemented this statement in pyang (see the

[netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-15 Thread Kent Watsen
This is a notice to start a NETMOD WG last call for the document Defining and Using Metadata with YANG: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 Please indicate your support by Monday June 29, 2015 at 9PM EST. We are not only interested in receiving defect reports, we are