Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 31 October 2003 09:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the position that no law can be useful. Unless you recognize that laws *create disorder*

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Cute little sayings like this are relatively meaningless to me. Anarchy would be far worse for all of us than even over-the-top government. Laws are an absolute necessity without which there can be no social

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Saturday 01 November 2003 09:55 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Cute little sayings like this are relatively meaningless to me. Anarchy would be far worse for all of us than even over-the-top government. Laws are an

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread Aronsmith
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 + Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: boys, that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion shrill, silly, or other such things. Up to that point it was a fairly civil

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread Margot
Aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 + Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: boys, that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion shrill, silly, or other such things. Up to that point it was a fairly civil

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-11-01 Thread Aronsmith
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 12:07, Margot wrote: Aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 + Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: boys, that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion shrill, silly,

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 31 October 2003 09:17 am, Tango Echo wrote: Ah! Here is the reference: http://www.hackbusters.net While it's possible it may deal directly with his LaBrea tar pit program, it appears to hinge around the tar pit technology. Here's a quote from the site: Quote: This section of the

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:57:04 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The fact is that tortured readings of laws and paranoid ravings about the possible clueless applications of laws does not do the tech community any service. It makes us all appear to be unreasonable and unwilling to

RE: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread Tango Echo
Ah! Here is the reference: http://www.hackbusters.net While it's possible it may deal directly with his LaBrea tar pit program, it appears to hinge around the tar pit technology. Here's a quote from the site: Quote: This section of the Illinois Criminal Code was added on

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 31 October 2003 11:29 am, HaywireMac wrote: Relying on politicians and lawyers to protect us has never served us well in the past, I see no reason to expect anything different for the future. The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the position that no

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 31 October 2003 11:38 am, Tango Echo wrote: Well, I am not a resident of Illinois, therefore, this particular criminal code does not apply to me. Good, but you might want to check these states too: http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/states/ I might check the laws, not someone's

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:57:04 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This response actually brings up something that has been bugging me of late about some elements of the tech community. I realize that there are a large number of clueless politicians and lawyers out there but

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the position that no law can be useful. Unless you recognize that laws *create disorder* ;-) The more laws and order are made prominent, the more

Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]

2003-10-31 Thread aronsmith
On Friday 31 October 2003 06:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the position that no law can be useful. Unless you recognize that laws *create disorder*