On Monday 03 Feb 2003 5:13 pm, robin wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
When you use su, only those programs you open from that terminal have
root priveleges. If you log in as root, all the other stuff does as
well.
Robin, could you clarify for me, please, the difference between su and su - ?
Anne
I guess man su could be our friend...
As I understand it, it is the pathes and folders,, if you log in just su, then
you have the path of the user you were, where as su- gives you the default
path for root
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 08:06 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 5:13 pm,
On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 2:05 pm, et wrote:
I guess man su could be our friend...
As I understand it, it is the pathes and folders,, if you log in just su,
then you have the path of the user you were, where as su- gives you the
default path for root
Thanks et. Once again I looked in my books
I think (and am pretty sure) that allowing him to run as root will teach it's
own lesson,,, kinda like how long it takes to figure out that rubbing your
nose on the sidewalk will make your nose hurt aka it is a self-evident
universal truth also calll sink or swim learn to swim before you
On Monday 03 February 2003 08:52 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 1:40 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:05AM -0500, et wrote:
I think (and am pretty sure) that allowing him to run as root will
teach it's own lesson,,, kinda like how long it takes to figure
Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
Like you think you're in /mnt/windows/My\ Documents\Downloads
and you want to delete a bunch of junk directories with names like
???sefdljvn5+5, ???fdsre8344 etc., so you type rm -Rf ./?* Just
after you hit Enter you realise that (a) you were in /usr and (b) ? is
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 3:14 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
On Linux
systems i create a user and logon using that user but i su - to do 90% of
my work/playing around.
So tell me why you aren't in just as much danger as he is for 90% of your
time?
When you use su, only those
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 5:13 pm, robin wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 3:14 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
On Linux
systems i create a user and logon using that user but i su - to do 90%
of my work/playing around.
So tell me why you aren't in just as much danger as he is for
On Sun 2003-02-02 at 21:03:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, thx Benjamin. On the bright side we've got a router up
running.
Well, a router doesn't protect against downloaded, trojaned
applications.
I'll work on him hopefully get him to see the error of his
way. Tho that is hard
On Monday 03 February 2003 06:49 am, civileme wrote:
Well, I do recall a case where someone was going to
remove a directory with configuration files to allow it
to rebuild itself
The command was
rm -rf /home/poorunfortunate/.kde
since he was running as root
and he got precisely this
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Monday 03 February 2003 06:49 am, civileme wrote:
rm -rf /
when the cat launched from the floor to the desktop and
planted a paw squarely on the enter key
Well---to put it mildly, there was a disturbance on the
system as all the
On Mon, February 3 2003 2:20 pm, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
*snip*
:
: ARGH, cats!
:
: rm -rf /dev/kitty
:
: ;)
Uhm, wouldnt that actually be 'rm -f /usr/bin/cat' ?
heh
--
Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---===---
History repeats itself. That's one thing wrong with
Femmefatale:
If teaching him all those technical stuff doesn't work, just show him KDE
with a nice acqua theme and saying: Look at all these free programs!!... (it
worked for me!)
If everything fails, consider changing boyfriend! :)
beijos,
Filipe Dinis
Want to buy your Pack or Services from
At 09:49 PM 2/2/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Well, I do recall a case where someone was going to remove a directory with
configuration files to allow it to rebuild itself
The command was
rm -rf /home/poorunfortunate/.kde
since he was running as root
and he got precisely this far:
rm -rf /
when
At 11:20 AM 2/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Leaving security stuff aside (its covered well without me) for me its
1. issue of privacy. I have four accounts on my home comp - me, wife, kids.
I've got some games my wife hates, she would kill me if kids found them (Doom
and friends :-)) So only I have
At 07:40 AM 2/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I think (and am pretty sure) that allowing him to run as root will teach
it's
own lesson,,, kinda like how long it takes to figure out that rubbing your
nose on the sidewalk will make your nose hurt aka it is a self-evident
universal truth also calll
At 12:42 AM 2/4/2003 +, you wrote:
Femmefatale:
If teaching him all those technical stuff doesn't work, just show him KDE
with a nice acqua theme and saying: Look at all these free programs!!... (it
worked for me!)
If everything fails, consider changing boyfriend! :)
beijos,
Filipe Dinis
FemmeFatale wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway.
Even on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
I can't give him any better argument for not doing so other than its
insecure (he doesn't care about that
At 01:07 AM 2/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
FemmeFatale wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway.
Even on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
I can't give him any better argument for not doing so other than its
even while sober as a judge.
I've not seen a sober judge yet in dealing the the facists in family
court the past seven years. They are drunk with power, bias, and a desire
to build work for others in the divorce industry...(social workers, PhDs,
lawyers, etc...) under the pretence of best
Hi.
On Mon 2003-02-03 at 01:07:41 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FemmeFatale wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway.
Even on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
That's quite correct. So, for the
If your certified in Windows your just another certified moron that doesnt
know any better (thats my 2 cents on certs with MS).
When i install my windows computers i change the Admin account to whatever
name i want to use (rwideman, newbie, dumbass, etc, windows doesnt care) b/c
i dont like
On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 15:10:38 -0700, FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway. Even
on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
I can't give him any better argument for not
At 02:58 AM 2/3/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi.
Snipped irrelevant entries redundant stuffs
Another point regarding his ignorance regarding security is: If he has
to access your computer (file sharing, login, whatever...), consider
his computer untrusted (i.e. owned by some script kiddie) and apply
]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2003 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT?, help convince my b/f running as root is bad!
At 02:58 AM 2/3/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi.
Snipped irrelevant entries redundant stuffs
Another point regarding his ignorance regarding
On Sunday 02 February 2003 14:10, FemmeFatale wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway. Even
on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
I can't give him any better argument for not doing so other than its
Femme,
Your going about it all wrong (as is everyone else on the list.. {myself included
???}
He's your b/f. Use some of that patended Microsoft FUD...
Some choice phrases along the lines of..
Well I dont think our interface is compatible anymore...
I don't want to catch any virus's (viri
At 12:36 PM 2/3/2003 +0800, you wrote:
Everyone keeps talking about the security...
what about the chance that he will accidently wipe his hard drive, and if
yours is a mounted directory he has write access to, some of yours as
well???
(back to security.)
how about when someone writes a virus
At 08:36 PM 2/2/2003 -0800, you wrote:
snipped banana
You may not be able to convince your friend that operating as root is a bad
thing, he may just have to experience it for himself. I hope he listens to
you, though, because I think I'd rather kick myself in the peaches and banana
than erase
On Sunday 02 February 2003 02:24 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
At 01:07 AM 2/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
FemmeFatale wrote:
My b/f is a windows MCSE. Fine. In windows you run as root anyway.
Even on 2k I run as an Admin.
Now he says he sees no diff from that to running as Root in linux.
I can't give
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