Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-02 Thread Onur Kucuk
And if things did not change, debian is the only distro that can support the GNU's kernel, hurd. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:06:35 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Peter Watson
On Thursday 01 November 2001 14:06 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users,

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread arthur
I don't trust the RedHat Network though. I had a customer that had his entire /usr/bin directory wiped out after running the RH Network daemon. It was a bloody mess. Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: On

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:40:23 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:06:35 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a problem with RHN, then you have a

RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Loke Kit Kai
is the one gaining... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: 02 November 2001 00:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
RMS is the kind of guy who is very easily misunderstood. He is also the kind of guy that tends to go a little overboard with things. In some cases, he mellows out with time, after an initial burst of accusations. In short, he's eccentric. And eccentricity and genius go hand-in-hand :) Red Hat

RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Franki
in court.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hal Wigoda Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 12:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary I just saw Stallman speak last night and he inferred that Red

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-11-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:33:12 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote: RMS is the kind of guy who is very easily misunderstood. He is also the kind of guy that tends to go a little overboard with things. In some cases, he mellows I've met RMS as well on two separate occasions.

RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Mitchell, Edmund
Sad but true. At work, I had to install XP to test my software, and I was shaking my head that after you install XP, you have 30 days to 'activate' it with M$. Fail to do so, and the software locks up. Do so, and that 300$ OS is then tied to that machine - legally, even if that machine breaks,

RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Mark Johnson
to effectively OWN the internet through sheer laziness and critical mass. -Original Message- From: Mitchell, Edmund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary Sad but true. At work

RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Franki
, and haven't been back,, not worth the effort. just some thoughts.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2001 1:06 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Robert
I believe your right as I read it. Still a hassle I can buy one copy of Linux and copy to two desktops and trying to copy to my laptop for $60 while it cost at least $100 for the upgrade for one machine. Then I have to keep getting permission everytime I move to a different or make

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:46:51 -0800, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe your right as I read it. Still a hassle I can buy one copy of Linux and copy to two desktops and trying to copy to my laptop for $60 while it cost at least $100 for the upgrade for one machine. Then I have to

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Newbie
So how do you get ahold of the software in the first place if it only lasts for 30 days? I would not pay twice for it. Thank goodness for Linux :) On Wednesday 31 October 2001 11:16 pm, you wrote: Alright enough's enough. RH is not subject to an activation scheme. Its free software just

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread David E. Fox
Then I have to keep getting permission everytime I move to a different or make substantial upgrades. No you don't. You can download it anonymously for free, clone copies of it, install it on a bunch of machines, etc. Support is another issue, of course, but the software is free of a need to

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread NDPTAL85
Well, you go to a store and buy it. Then when you install it, the 30 day countdown begins. If you don't activate it within that time frame it stops working. On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 12:20 AM, Newbie wrote: So how do you get ahold of the software in the first place if it only lasts

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Newbie
Ok thanks for the info. This seals my decision to not buy XP ever, paying for it twice? Ripoff. Linux will forever rule in my house. On Thursday 01 November 2001 12:29 am, you wrote: Well, you go to a store and buy it. Then when you install it, the 30 day countdown begins. If you don't

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Robert
No I would expect people to do whatever they want with their money. Frankly, I am sure we all know someone or several peope who do buy the latest and greatest. Obviously, vendors like this and keep them on record to send advertisement and other bait on the fishhook for these kind of customer.

Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary

2001-10-31 Thread Robert
Maybe, because MS is hated largely by Linux users while Red Hat is hated by a small ultra anti commercial software groups. I heard of the Red Hat but had thought it was removed when Red Hat users complained about it. Red Hat can probably get away with it with Linux user turning a blind eye