Re: [nlug] Partition Management

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Chris McQuistion wrote: > Another vote for Gparted.  I've used it many, many times and have never had > any problems.  I don't usually defrag first.  Gparted can move the data if > it needs to.  It makes partition resizing take longer, but I don't think > there are

Re: [nlug] Partition Management

I have picked up a few "do's" with defrag windows for things like this over the years if you want maximum compaction. First, take a look at (ie, INSTALL) the free 'MyDefrag' (http://www.mydefrag.com/ - used to be called "JKDefrag"). Next, turnoff any hibernation. at an admin level CMD prom

[nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Yeah, This is way off topic, but a few months back I was speaking with someone who was into green technologies. I never did quiet catch his name, but he seemed puzzled why I was big on promoting Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors as the future of nuclear. Here is a IEEE spectrum article (the links

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Great video. It would be better if we actually would go that way with the new Nuke plants that are on the horizon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[nlug] Reading a locked file.

Hey everyone, I am trying to read / copy the apache access.log file which is about a Gig in size and it keeps telling me a process (apache) has locked the file and my read / copy fails. Unfortunately this is under windows (no options) so I am looking for something to let me copy this file reliab

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Y'all already know we can't continue down the current path. Why continue with nuclear energy? It is like riding a tiger. Eventually things go wrong. Hydrogen is like vatamin c. It is easy to produce. Would it be easier to improve the efficiency of photovoltaic cells or build nuclear power plants to

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > Hey everyone, >   I am trying to read / copy the apache access.log file which is about a Gig > in size and it keeps telling me a process (apache) has locked the file and > my read / copy fails.  Unfortunately this is under windows (no opt

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > Y'all already know we can't continue down the current path. Why continue > with nuclear energy? It is like riding a tiger. Eventually things go wrong. > Hydrogen is like vatamin c. It is easy to produce. Would it be easier to > improve the effi

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > Hmm, so H is easy to produce? I think you need to recheck that. Yes, we > have electrolysis but it is very inefficient so far and there are other > issues like degradation of the electrodes. The best way we have to produce > H is to

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Don Delp wrote: > http://download.cnet.com/Unlocker/3000-2248_4-10493998.html > > This might cause problems by killing the service or crashing it when > it finds it's no longer connected to the log, but I've used it to > move/delete files that are "open or in use"

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Kent Perrier wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > >> >> Hmm, so H is easy to produce? I think you need to recheck that. Yes, we >> have electrolysis but it is very inefficient so far and there are other >> issues like degradation o

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > Why produce H anyway?  Both the Sun and the Gas Giants are just crazy with > it, lets go mine them! > The fastest way to get money for it would be to say that the terrorist will do it if we don't. Either that or say that's where Wikile

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > Y'all already know we can't continue down the current path. Why continue > with nuclear energy? It is like riding a tiger. Eventually things go wrong. Did you not watch the video? It's vastly more safe than the current nuclear paradigm. Saying

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:46, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Don Delp wrote: > >> http://download.cnet.com/Unlocker/3000-2248_4-10493998.html >> >> This might cause problems by killing the service or crashing it when >> it finds it's no longer connected to the log,

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:48 PM, gm5729 wrote: > > Copy the file and use GVim. There is a Wintel version. > The file cannot be copied, it is in use. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

I was not suggesting photovoltaic cells to make steam to strip natural gas. Of course, it would be cleaner than current fossil fuel uses. Electrodes have been produced in the last two years much improving the degradation. Also there has been success with an alkaline electrolytic solution. If you ar

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On 08/12/2010 02:25 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Hey everyone, I am trying to read / copy the apache access.log file which is about a Gig in size and it keeps telling me a process (apache) has locked the file and my read / copy fails. Unfortunately this is under windows (no options) so I am l

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:48 PM, gm5729 wrote: >> >> Copy the file and use GVim. There is a Wintel version. > > The file cannot be copied, it is in use. > > Andy > I think that Apache creates a new one if the log file is missing. Maybe

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:48:04PM -0500, gm5729 wrote: > > Copy the file and use GVim. There is a Wintel version. The file has a mandatory and exclusive lock; you can't manipulate it in any way, and that includes copying it. How does the windows version handle log rotati

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Don Delp wrote: > I think that Apache creates a new one if the log file is missing. > Maybe you can rename it, which is instantaneous. If it's locked 9 > seconds out of ten, write a batch script to keep attempting to move it > to a new name until it succeeds and

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:48:04PM -0500, gm5729 wrote: > > > > Copy the file and use GVim. There is a Wintel version. > > The file has a mandatory and exclusive lock; you can't manipulate >it in any way, and that includes

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > > Y'all already know we can't continue down the current path. Why continue > > with nuclear energy? It is like riding a tiger. Eventually things go > wrong. > > Did you not watch the vid

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On 08/12/2010 02:46 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: I have found hobocopy and shadowcopy but I cannot add them to the server, I have to do the copy across the network. Sorry, just saw this. Can you explain what you mean a bit more in depth? If you have access to the box, why can't you copy the fi

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:18:23PM -0400, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > my thought was read until I get an error logging the distance into the file > I get, then close and reopen the file, seek to that location and continue > reading. repeat this process until the end of the file. That's

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

If you need it from a few weeks back or even not-today, do you have it on a backup? Restore a copy of the file to a personal working directory then snoop for what you need. ><> ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Andrew Far

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM, John Wolfe wrote: > On 08/12/2010 02:46 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > >> I have found hobocopy and shadowcopy but I cannot add them to the >> server, I have to do the copy across the network. >> > > Sorry, just saw this. Can you explain what you mean a bit more i

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:25, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:18:23PM -0400, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > > > my thought was read until I get an error logging the distance into the > file > > I get, then close and reopen the file, seek to that location and continue > > readi

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:25 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:18:23PM -0400, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > > > my thought was read until I get an error logging the distance into the > file > > I get, then close and reopen the file, seek to that location and continue > > rea

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

What has that got to do with ... Damn! I just realised I am dancing for a troll! ... I cannot believe you are that slow. Carefully read the part Where I suggested no grid. Bill, this group has got into some very heated discussions in the past but I believe you're stepping over the line int

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:42 PM, j...@coats.org wrote: > If you need it from a few weeks back or even not-today, do you have it > on a backup? > Restore a copy of the file to a personal working directory then snoop > for what you need. > > > Jack, I need it to figure out what went wrong 20 minu

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, gm5729 wrote: > Gvim opens lock files and if you can open the file it creates a swp by the > name blah~ > Grab the swap Vim can do binary files too. > Sadly, this is a windows box and doesn't have gvim and I cannot install any new software on the server. Tha

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

I don't know if it helps but I believe when I looked into log rotation under Apache on Windows, the recommended way was to have apache send the output to another process that would handle the rotation of the logs. That process may be able to allow you the access you need. On the other hand, I

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:48, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, gm5729 wrote: > >> Gvim opens lock files and if you can open the file it creates a swp by the >> name blah~ >> Grab the swap Vim can do binary files too. >> > > Sadly, this is a windows box and doesn't

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Richard Thomas wrote: > I don't know if it helps but I believe when I looked into log rotation > under Apache on Windows, the recommended way was to have apache send the > output to another process that would handle the rotation of the logs. That > process may be

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, gm5729 wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:48, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, gm5729 wrote: >> >>> Gvim opens lock files and if you can open the file it creates a swp by >>> the name blah~ >>> Grab the swap Vim can do binary fi

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

Rich, Great minds think alike! unfortunately type just gets part way and dies with an error when apache grabs the file for writing. Xcopy does the same. I cannot change the configuration of apache in any reasonable amount of time (i.e. months) so I consider that a non-viable solution.

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Even 1GW style coal plants are not safe. The biggest safety problem is not the generators it is the boiler. Coal plants do 'blow up' and we seldom hear much about them. All we are doing with any of the nuke scenarios is replace the coal fire with a nuke. Now I REALLY like the thorium cycle they

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Richard Thomas wrote: > > >> Rich, >> Great minds think alike! unfortunately type just gets part way and dies >> with an error when apache grabs the file for writing. Xcopy does the same. >> I cannot change the configuration of apache in any reasonable amount o

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:50:02PM -0500, gm5729 wrote: > > Putty in with a linux box and su -, use Vim off a linux box. "Putty in"? "su -"? It's a *WINDOWS* box in case that wasn't previously clear. To top it off, Andy is quite constrained in what he is and is

RE: Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Where do you visualize as the source for the hydrogen to power all of these garage-too generators? Most of the hydrogen is already combined with other chemicals (for example, combined with oxygen to make water), and you have to out as much energy in, to split out the hydrogen, as you will get b

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Richard Thomas > wrote: I'm going to start calling you Psychic in a minute. Sorry, it doesn't work either because it is not possible to copy the entire 1Gb+ file in the time between writes... it just fails over and over and over

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Richard Thomas > wrote: I'm going to start calling you Psychic in a minute. Sorry, it doesn't work either because it is not possible to copy the entire 1Gb+ file in the time between writes... it just fails over and over and over

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Bill Woody wrote: >> > Y'all already know we can't continue down the current path. Why continue >> > with nuclear energy? It is like riding a tig

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

Andy wrote: > Sorry, it doesn't work either because it is not possible to copy > the entire 1Gb+ file in the time between writes... Can you speed it up by copying to a ramdisk? (I don't know whether I'm thinking outside the box, or just reaching :-) -- You received this message because you are

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

Can you speed it up by copying to a ramdisk? (I don't know whether I'm thinking outside the box, or just reaching :-) Use mirrored raid and yank one of the drives (I'm just being silly now) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:32:45PM -0500, Richard Thomas wrote: > > >Can you speed it up by copying to a ramdisk? > >(I don't know whether I'm thinking outside the box, or just reaching :-) > > > Use mirrored raid and yank one of the drives (I'm just being silly now) Can windows pivots /

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

Don, Thanks for the suggestion but it is not an option. If this was for normal log rotation then it would be, but it is not. It is for troubleshooting and we cannot move / rename / restart the log file for this, we need to just copy or even tail it but even the tail might be too long a

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:16:45PM -0400, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion but it is not an option. If this was for normal > log rotation then it would be, but it is not. It is for troubleshooting and > we cannot move / rename / restart the log file for this, we need to just

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

Rich is correct. I stepped over the line. I never get upset or lose it, yet I did. I hope Andrew will accept my "no but" apology. Bill Woody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

On Aug 12, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > Rich is correct. I stepped over the line. I never get upset or lose it, yet I > did. I hope Andrew will accept my "no but" apology. > I've never heard of a no but apology, but sure. I think we are talking about two totally different things

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

> I cannot change the configuration of apache in any reasonable amount of time > (i.e. months) so I consider that a non-viable solution. Your constraints make this unsolvable. Not all problems have solutions. Next. ;-) Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

I'm sorry but, you should have... You see my but now, right? On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM, wrote: > > > > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Bill Woody wrote: > > Rich is correct. I stepped over the line. I never get upset or lose it, yet > I did. I hope Andrew will accept my "no but" apology.

Re: Re: [nlug] [OT] Thorium reactor with LFT Reactor as a viable nuclear

I do love how many of the 'commercial fuel cells' use methane run through a catalyst as a source for their clean hydrogen. Of course they let the CO2 byproduct free into the air. :) Now there is something we could do, is to use Nuc energy to combine CO2 with hydrogen and put it back into the pipe

Re: [nlug] 3D Printing - links, notes and observations

John, Then how about a 'inkscape for Rookies' at the install fest :) ... Thanks again for the presentation at the meeting! ><> ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Greg Jones wrote: > --- On Wed, 8/11/10, j...@co

Re: [nlug] Reading a locked file.

On 08/12/2010 04:32 PM, Richard Thomas wrote: Use mirrored raid and yank one of the drives (I'm just being silly now) That's not silly, this is Use your social networking skills to get someone to "accidentally" kick a power cord loose or otherwise kill power to the server you need access