My friend in Taipei just Emailed asking if I thought it was worth it for
him to upgrade his service.
Present service: 60 Mbit down, 15 Mbit up for US$31.75/month
Proposed service 100 Mbit down, 20 Mbit up for US$33.33/month
My service: 18 Mbps down, 1.5 Mbps up, $55/month
Do I sense a discrep
I've always heard the rumor that it's cheaper due to being a smaller country so
lower infrastructure costs. But I'd love to have that cheap of service.
If i was him I'd upgrade in a heartbeat since it's less then 2 dollars more.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Curt Lundgren
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 09:14:49AM -0600, Curt Lundgren wrote:
>
> Do I sense a discrepancy?
Welcome to the US.
John
--
The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring
liars; the men they detest most violently
Even worse, he has a static IPv4 address included in the price. Life ain't
fair.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:23 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 09:14:49AM -0600, Curt Lundgren wrote:
> >
> > Do I sense a discrepancy?
>
> Welcome to the US.
>
>
>
>
>
My $80/mo is only for 15G of data (12M down, 3M up, sometimes better,
sometimes worse, bad storms
block out the signal - drops onto internet in Colorado, DHCP) ... btw, most
cable companies report 'normal'
cable users use 80 to 90G per month, from what I heard.
There is some wireless service that
I have a house for rent just outside of Nashville where you can get
300/120 for $129/mo..
It all depends on the ILEC..
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Curt Lundgren wrote:
> My friend in Taipei just Emailed asking if I thought it was worth it for him
> to upgrade his service.
>
> Present serv
Folks; I just edited a nasty rant. Suffice it to say we pay more for
everything in the US. I HATE using obscene language in general so, we are
the ___ goose! Try to enjoy it.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
> I have a house for rent just outside of Nashville where you can ge
Yes, I understand, more often that I like to admit, I just delete my longer
diatribes.
What would be interesting is to know the percentage of average income
internet access is in other nations.
...
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Woody wrote:
> Folks; I just edited a nasty rant. Suffice
On 01/26/2014 01:00 PM, Bill Woody wrote:
Folks; I just edited a nasty rant. Suffice it to say we pay more for
everything in the US. I HATE using obscene language in general so, we
are the ___ goose! Try to enjoy it.
Thank you for your consideration. All the same, I do not plan to move
to Ar
On 1/26/14 10:14 AM, Curt Lundgren wrote:
My friend in Taipei just Emailed asking if I thought it was worth it
for him to upgrade his service.
Present service: 60 Mbit down, 15 Mbit up for US$31.75/month
Proposed service 100 Mbit down, 20 Mbit up for US$33.33/month
My service: 18 Mbps down,
- Original Message -
> I've always heard the rumor that it's cheaper due to being a smaller
> country so lower infrastructure costs. But I'd love to have that cheap
> of service.
Just a bit of critical thinking, This is the internet we are talking about.
What does the size of ones country
On 1/26/14 10:22 AM, Zackary P. Boarman wrote:
I've always heard the rumor that it's cheaper due to being a smaller
country so lower infrastructure costs. But I'd love to have that cheap
of service.
Very good story on our screwed up Federal regulations from
Scientific American;
Why Broadba
Interesting that the 2010 article complains that the Friendly Candy Company
classified the Internet as something other than a telecommunications
service. I read that they've just reclassified it as telecommunications,
and now everyone is moaning that everything will get worse.
Perhaps it's an exp
Gee, Howard. That really sounds like a troll. But, I know you to be one of
the more pleasant keyboards on this list. Therefore, it must be me. What
did I miss? Be nice.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Howard White wrote:
> On 01/26/2014 01:00 PM, Bill Woody wrote:
>
>> Folks; I just edited a
"Zackary P. Boarman" wrote:
> I've always heard the rumor that it's cheaper due to being a smaller
> country so lower infrastructure costs. But I'd love to have that cheap
> of service.
>
> If i was him I'd upgrade in a heartbeat since it's less then 2 dollars
> more.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
On 01/27/2014 09:03 AM, Bill Woody wrote:
Gee, Howard. That really sounds like a troll. But, I know you to be one
of the more pleasant keyboards on this list. Therefore, it must be me.
What did I miss? Be nice.
Sorry if I caught you out there a bit, Bill. I do appreciate that you
kept your c
On 01/27/2014 11:28 AM, Holland Griffis wrote:
I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month through
TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I was astounded
to find out this was available after buying my new house. I also get tv
and phone over that fiber so there
I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month through
TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I was astounded to
find out this was available after buying my new house. I also get tv and
phone over that fiber so there is a small package discount built in there
On Ja
> I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month through
> TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I was astounded to
> find out this was available after buying my new house. I also get tv and
> phone over that fiber so there is a small package discount built in the
I am glad to hear TDS has made that leap. When I had ISDN service from
them many years ago they had troubles configuring the switch. It
bothered me many years ago that AT&T (at the time Bellsouth) had the
chance to do FTTH and caved to the wishes of the CWA.
Dave
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 11:44
The better question is, why would they want to, when their business model
is based around USF. You don't get USF for areas with service.
-Blake
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
>
> I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month through
>> TDS in La Ver
On 01/27/2014 11:53 AM, David R. Wilson wrote:
I am glad to hear TDS has made that leap. When I had ISDN service from
them many years ago they had troubles configuring the switch. It
bothered me many years ago that AT&T (at the time Bellsouth) had the
chance to do FTTH and caved to the wishes
begged the guy for help. He laughed and dispatched a guy
right then, and it was fixed when I got home from work.
Cindy
- Original Message -
From: "Howard White"
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:07:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nlug] Internet pricing
atched a guy right then, and it was
> fixed when I got home from work.
>
> Cindy
>
> --
> *From: *"Howard White"
> *To: *nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
> *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2014 12:07:27 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [nlug] Internet pricing
I was irritated to discover it is cheaper to buy a ticket from China to
Hawaii than it is from Hawaii to China. Same airports! We are taken
advantage of way too often.
I have considered living overseas several times but, I am so
anti-authoritarian... and somewhat chicken.
Thank You for the clarifi
On 1/27/14 12:44 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month
through TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I
was astounded to find out this was available after buying my new
house. I also get tv and phone over that
So much for the free market…
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
> On 1/27/14 12:44 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
>
>
> I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month
>> through TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I was
>> astounded to fi
That's entirely untrue. There are no federal regulations that limit an
area to two suppliers...
Look at Jackson TN..
JEA for TV, Internet and Phone
Charter for TV, Internet and Phone
AT&T for TV, Internet and Phone
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
> On 1/27/14 12:44 PM, S
I've been doing a little searching and can't find anything supporting the
limit of two internet providers for a particular area. In fact,
in Asheville we had choice of cable, DSL or an over-the-air internet. And
horridly laggy options like Hughes.net. Maybe it is no more than two of one
particular
On 01/27/2014 06:59 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
That's entirely untrue. There are no federal regulations that limit an
area to two suppliers...
Look at Jackson TN..
JEA for TV, Internet and Phone
Charter for TV, Internet and Phone
AT&T for TV, Internet and Phone
Do not confuse the limits of Switch
You're still mistaken. There's nothing preventing anyone qualified from
overbuilding any other territory.
On Jan 27, 2014 5:32 PM, "Howard White" wrote:
> On 01/27/2014 06:59 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
>
>> That's entirely untrue. There are no federal regulations that limit an
>> area to two supplier
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Howard White wrote>
> Nobody wanted to see duplicate cable plants constructed, burying even more
> copper lines. This is what has opened up the means for WindStream and TW
> (International) Telecom and all the other Facilities Based CLECs to buy the
> last mile fr
Just heard from my friend in Taipei again. He says the Taiwanese people
aren't actually very happy with their Internet pricing. Huh? No, they're
envious of the people in Japan who have higher speed at a somewhat higher
price. 2 Gbps for $50/month? What on earth do you do with 2 Gbps? I
really
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 07:29:04AM -0600, Curt Lundgren wrote:
> price. 2 Gbps for $50/month? What on earth do you do with 2 Gbps? I
Porn. What else?
John
--
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking th
Time for my (tech) porn story. I applied for a position as a Linux
administrator at a company in downtown Los Angeles. The perky secretary
that I talked with prior to the interview mentioned that the company dealt
in 'some' adult content.
Fast forward to the interview, on the 30th floor of a dow
- Original Message -
> Just heard from my friend in Taipei again. He says the Taiwanese
> people aren't actually very happy with their Internet pricing. Huh?
> No, they're
> envious of the people in Japan who have higher speed at a somewhat
> higher price. 2 Gbps for $50/month? What on eart
On 01/28/2014 07:29 AM, Curt Lundgren wrote:
Just heard from my friend in Taipei again. He says the Taiwanese people
aren't actually very happy with their Internet pricing. Huh? No,
they're envious of the people in Japan who have higher speed at a
somewhat higher price. 2 Gbps for $50/month?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
> The truth is that to deliver ubiquitous broadband in the US is a
> multi-hundred-billion dollar undertaking, that no company or companies
> will do because there's no real return on investment.
>
My belief is that people see near 100% coverag
Saw on Toms Hardware that AT&T is capping people at 150G/mo of data and
Comcast is dropping users who regularly use over 250G/mo.
Evidently AT&T says a 'average user' uses about 15G/mo. But that doesn't
add up, because a typical Netflix customer uses about 2G/hour and watches
20 movies a month (
On 01/28/2014 10:16 AM, Jack Coats wrote:
Saw on Toms Hardware that AT&T is capping people at 150G/mo of data and
Comcast is dropping users who regularly use over 250G/mo.
And what with the "not network neutral" Verizon court decision, this is
only going to get more expensive - especially f
Comcast has Nashville as a Test market for its cap. There are like 4
test markets, the rest of the US doesn't currently have a hard cap.
Nashville we have 300gb combined cap. You get an email at 90% then at
100%. At that point you get 3 free overages. After your third overage
in a 12 month period t
Yep, the bean counters take over after the techies that understand move on
to new things.
Now, what does it take to set up a WISP? If it can be done reasonably from
cell towers, losts of space
is available on them. ... Then it is 'just' getting a deal on bandwidth
from backbone providers (and ge
Jack, a lot of variables go into tower rental, but seeing a price tag with
4 digits before the decimal wouldn't be at all unusual.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
> Yep, the bean counters take over after the techies that understand move on
> to new things.
>
> Now, what does
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Howard White wrote:
> On 01/27/2014 06:59 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
>
>> That's entirely untrue. There are no federal regulations that limit an
>> area to two suppliers...
>>
>> Look at Jackson TN..
>>
>> JEA for TV, Internet and Phone
>> Charter for TV, Internet and
Yes. Local ordinances are why I can get TDS fiber to my home in La Vergne
but 2 blocks away in Smyrna a relative of mine cant.
On Jan 29, 2014 5:19 AM, "Paul Boniol" wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Howard White wrote:
>
>> On 01/27/2014 06:59 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> That's entire
Are there any net-neutral companies left? Ones that allow you to run
servers, don't cap your usage, and don't do packet shaping? I heard that
even Google Fiber doesn't have net neutrality, they still monitor their
networks for suspected server traffic.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Holland Gri
There was a flap last year where Google had to reverse their 'no server'
policy (or at least clarify it). Non-commercial services run from a home
account are now specifically permitted; things such as home security and
video surveillance systems are considered OK.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:25 AM
Nathanael, I think this is where they get you with the residential vs
business type accounts. A couple of years ago we had to switch an account
type (nothing else changed as far as I could tell) other then the bill
about doubled. After that, we had no issues with running servers or see
any usage
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 07:25:09AM -0600, Nathanael Ries wrote:
> Are there any net-neutral companies left? Ones that allow you to run
> servers, don't cap your usage, and don't do packet shaping? I heard that
> even Google Fiber doesn't have net neutrality, they still monitor their
> networks for
Again from my Taiwanese friend, a list of the fastest Internet countries in
the world:
http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2014-01-27/where-to-find-the-world-s-fastest-internet-top-20.html#slide21
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:41 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 07:25:09AM -060
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