[nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-22 Thread Radhames Brito
On 22 jun, 19:58, Mark Hahn wrote: > Node sounds like a fit to me. > > Why do you have workers?  Doesn't rails automatically use threads/processes > to allow multiple things to happen at once?  (I know nothing about how a > rails server works). > On the contrary, Ryan used rails as an example o

[nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-22 Thread Radhames Brito
On 22 jun, 20:04, Ben Noordhuis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Radhames Brito > wrote: > > I have a medium size application in Rails that is consuming lot of > > resources because it has to communicate with a SOAP web service, every > > time the application accesses the service is t

[nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Marco Rogers
Your rant has a lot of truth to it. But many people in the node community don't see this as completely negative. Node is still young and it has a lot of catching up to do in terms of developing a large robust library space. Having a lot of activity and people reinventing wheels is part of that.

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-22 Thread Martin Wawrusch
Well, node.js is a bit like the Wild West, before the railroads where built, and in my book this is a very good thing. Projects get traction or they don't, based on what people like or dislike. No big hand watching over us forcing us into doing it in a certain way. Or, more like Shadows and less li

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Mark Hahn
> I dont see node.js growing much You must be blind. Node is exploding with no end in site. -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Ian Lawrence
Hi > Most project lack the proper documentation. I dont see node.js growing > much as long as there is no central leadership of some sort that can > impose some standars like, "everything in npm must be documented this > way or this other", or "if you are doing the same thing as someone > else don

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Radhames Brito
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > I dont see node.js growing much > > You must be blind. Node is exploding with no end in site. > > Yes I agree Node is exploding, but there needs to be standards, I know everyone is running to it but efforts should be unified. -- Radhamés

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Mark Hahn
> I know everyone is running to it but efforts should be unified. I don't agree. This is an evolutionary growth. The petri dish needs to be able to grow anything. Having a god to design this would be far inferior to evolution. And allowing some person or persons to dictate the design would b

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Mikeal Rogers
Couldn't disagree with you more. Open environments thrive on small discreet and federated components and not on central authority. It's closed systems that require more frameworks and widgets and big SDKs in order to survive and compete against other closed systems. On Jun 22, 2012, at June 22,

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Baz
I'm with the evolution camp, but just for completeness sake, it is worth considering the hybrid Linux model. Any rogue can develop apps, but distros (i.e. Ubuntu), for better or for worse, tie them all up in a pretty bow (a lot more involved than npm). On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Mikeal Rog

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Oliver Leics
Batteries not included. I'm the authority. I'm choosing my authorities. My wish: An easy way to follow my authorities, preferably via npm (star command..). On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Baz wrote: > I'm with the evolution camp, but just for completeness sake, it is worth > considering the h

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Radhames Brito
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > I know everyone is running to it but efforts should be unified. > > I don't agree. This is an evolutionary growth. The petri dish needs to > be able to grow anything. Having a god to design this would be far > inferior to evolution. And

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Radhames Brito
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > Couldn't disagree with you more. > > Open environments thrive on small discreet and federated components and > not on central authority. It's closed systems that require more frameworks > and widgets and big SDKs in order to survive and compe

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Radhames Brito
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ian Lawrence wrote: > Hi > > > Most project lack the proper documentation. I dont see node.js growing > > much as long as there is no central leadership of some sort that can > > impose some standars like, "everything in npm must be documented this > > way or this

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-23 Thread Marco Rogers
Yeah I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're saying. It's just that things don't work that way right now. If you want a full-featured robust SOAP client, you should write one. And you should promote it and have everyone that needs SOAP use your client. Then the next time anybody is l

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Raoul Millais
I personally think the Node community is one of the best I've experienced for cultural adovcacy: it's just not necessarily evident as a newbie. The community is diverse and Node itself is young. It also intentionally has a very a small core, which leaves a lot open for interpretation. Node d

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Mark Hahn
It is very possible that Node never will "mature". Having a zillion choices may be here to stay. Hopefully it will get easier to find the ones you need. Of course the quality of the best modules will improve over time. And some will dominate when they hit the sweet spot of what most developers

Re: [nodejs] Re: Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Marco Rogers
In my mind, "maturing" doesn't mean all the choices go away. It just means there are some obvious choices that most people agree are the way to go. This takes time and work. And it means those obvious choices are the first thing newbs run into when they are considering solutions. This can be helped