Stringing of baroque violins is another can of worms since tension varied
widely according to local conventions and personal preferences. There is also
the question of equal tension versus progressive tension and whether wound
strings should be used for the G and/or D. It is, or at least used
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Christopher (DGT)
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments
Hi there
I play fiddle regularly with NSP at Alnwick Pipers' Society
and find that my
fiddle
the pipes less. Please don't let that affect the response of anyone who has
heard me play, fiddle or pipes!
Tim
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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:14 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet
This is interesting to me as I have an unreconstructed
baroque violin from about 1820
Sorry Tim, but it ain't baroque . .
True, this is very late to be referred to as baroque, but if it's
unreconstructed it's probably closer to the baroque setup than a real modern
violin. Maybe it was
;-)
Hey, it's ca. 1660. we'd better start using wound strings!
c
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[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of tim rolls BT
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:42 AM
To: Francis Wood
Cc: NSP group
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet with other
On 10 Feb 2010, at 10:42, tim rolls BT wrote:
However, what about the rest of my questions?
Hi Tim
Your other questions . . .
Am I right in thinking that before 1920ish and the current standardised
concert pitch at G that many instruments' G was lower anyway, which would
have led to
I have a smallish fiddle with a neck very similar to what is seen on
baroque instruments. I have beenold by a luthier friend, however, that
it probably doesn't even predate 1900.
I don't think makers and players have ever been all that conscientious
about fitting in with the history books ;-)
Francis Wood wrote:
Also is pitch purely dependent on tension?
The danger with such a question is that one might receive a full and
comprehensive answer, which in such cases is usually to be regretted!
This is one case where I think the answer is simpler than one might expect.
Quoting
Thanks Barry.
Returning to the core topic of piping, do similar principles apply in human
behaviour terms?
In NPS Committee meetings for instance, if you double the evident tension in
the meetings does this result in a proportionate decrease the frequency of
meetings?
Similarly if you double
but the approximations are easy, and *fairly* good.
John
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Barry Say
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Cc: Francis Wood; tim rolls BT
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments
Or the pitch of the discussion could rise...
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Francis Wood
Sent: 10 February 2010 13:01
To: Barry Say
Cc: NSP group
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments
Thanks Barry
Gibbons, John wrote:
Barry said
If only pipes were so simple
The formula for strings:
f = (1/2L) * sqrt (T/mu)
neglects all sorts of effects, such as the bow or the finger, the rigidity of
the string, the speed of tension waves in the string, etc. And we haven't
thought of the motion of
From John Dally 9th Feb:
There are not many fiddlers
around here who are interested in playing with NSP, or SSP for that
matter, but it would I like to find one who is willing to tune down
the way Willie Taylor did in order play with Joe Hutton.
Mmm...
Willie Taylor hated
Anthony is absolutely right about Willie Taylor's dislike of tuning down a
fiddle; the 'knicker-elastic' comment is one he used frequently.
When I'm playing duets with Andy's nsp, I always tune down. For me, I've
spent a long time trying to find the right fiddle and strings so it doesn't
sound
As Matt has said pipes/fiddle duets (and combinations of pipe/fiddle with
other instruments) are
''not at all unusual '' and the various people mentioned especially the High
Level Ranters as Colin R has pointed out pioneered in this.
I have played duets (and in bands) with a fiddler (Peter
On 8 Feb 2010, Bill Telfer wrote:
This type of duet (and playing in a small band), though hard work is for me
one of the most satisfying ways to use the pipes.
Hear, hear. Both all pipes, and pipes / fiddle.
I looked up in the society records, and the first mention of a pipes / fiddle
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments
And there's also the great mix of Andy May's pipes Sophie Ball's
fiddle on his Happy Hours CD. Smashing.
(Official Disclaimer: the terms, Great mix and smashing here
represent expressions of personally held opinions of musical taste, for
which I
And apparently agony
Best wishes.
Steve
On 2/8/10 3:30 PM, gibbonssoi...@aol.com gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 07/02/2010 13:39:07 GMT Standard Time,
i...@gretton-willems.com writes:
But did you know that a recent survey showed that 96.83%
of people
thanks, Matt!
When playing with NSP in F do you tune your fiddle down or play in F
and C? Have you heard Mick O'Brien and Caoimhin o Raghallaigh? I
think Caoimhin must tune his fiddle down to be in tune with Mick's
flat set. Perhaps what I like about these duets is the fiddle being
tuned down.
On 7 Feb 2010, at 13:38, Paul Gretton wrote:
Paul Gretton
(who just this morning booked his tickets for the Cologne Opera's Ring
next June.
Paul, could you report back on whether Siegfried ever does get his reed problem
fixed?
Auf dem dummen Rohre
gerät mir nichts. -
. . . . .
On
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Matt Seattle
theborderpi...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 PM, John Dally dir...@gmail.com wrote:
I've 'always' - since taking up guitar at age 13 - played with other
instrumentalists.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I thought playing in
And there's also the great mix of Andy May's pipes Sophie Ball's
fiddle on his Happy Hours CD. Smashing.
(Official Disclaimer: the terms, Great mix and smashing here
represent expressions of personally held opinions of musical taste, for
which I alone am responsible, and with which others
(Official Disclaimer: the terms, Great mix and smashing here
represent expressions of personally held opinions of musical taste, for
which I alone am responsible, and with which others may find they wish to
disagree.
This is their right, just as some people love Wagner's Operas and I
don't,
Haven't tried cyanide, but did do Wagner with passionate Wagner-phile
'A' level Music teacher many years ago.
Sorry, Paul, it was as a result of that I got to dislike them... but
hope you enjoy The Ring Cycle!
Best wishes and apologies to all for another OT excursion!
Richard.
I play my D NSP set with a fiddler quite a bit, as well as with a mandolin
player, and as long as you have the key sig discussion before you start,
everything will go fine.
Depending on the fiddler and the liveliness of the room you are playing in,
there can be some volume issues sometimes,
Hi John, Steve and all,
Would you say that this conforms to the limits of the list?
Hopefully,
Sheila
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Subject: Re: [NSP] NSP duet with other instruments
Hi John,
Yes, as Matt
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