[NSP] Re: Not again!

2009-04-16 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ah yes, I remember it well - even in the same city, whack! C I was the one who sang interminable unaccompanied ballads. My sister was the other one. I also almost got murdered by Barry Halpin for singing "with God on our side" at his club. Ah, madcap youth! c >-Original Message- >From:

[NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell - Pipes Teacher.

2009-04-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thank you, Barry. I approached this message with trepidation fearing it might be a disclosure of the "awful truth" about one of people I most admire on this planet. Instead it was a long-overdue tribute to Kathryn's genius written by a person qualifed to judge. At last. Thank you again. chirs

[NSP] Re: nps

2009-04-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
>A bad player puts people off the instrument and also teaches >you the "wrong" was to play. I'd agree with the second part of this statement but not with the first as I can remember that many years ago when my technique started to improve a certain professional folk singer, who was my brother-

[NSP] Re: nps

2009-04-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
> > [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7paLft9_ms > > Enjoy! Luverly. Let it bleed!!! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: nps

2009-04-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
< Maybe your violin teacher was teaching you classical style along with the good basic violin technique, and the classical style was impeding your traditional style. I don't think so, but there's no way of knowing. I've never claimed to be a "good" player of anything (I would de

[NSP] Re: nps

2009-04-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
>"The learner should note that the staccato style of playing >should not be >overdone. >Excessive cutting of the notes though at times lending a meretricious >brilliance to a performance, >is not in accordance with good small-pipe style" > >It is interesting that this was le

[NSP] Re: nps

2009-04-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
>James Galway playing tin whistle used to be alarming, >though the Chieftains taught him a better, more fluid, style >subsequently. Only heard him doing so once and this was back in the early Cretaceous or thereabouts. Your description of the "better" style as "more fluid" suggests that he fel

[NSP] Re: Fenwick

2009-04-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
>That passage describing and naming ornaments was clearly >lifted from 'classical' tutors for other instruments. >It does not discuss how these ornaments might be fingered, for example. >Have you - has anyone - had Fenwick - ever heard a turned >shake on the NSP? >The description of staccato is r

[NSP] Re: What oil to use?

2009-05-26 Thread Christopher.Birch
Praps some would prefer oil of vitriol. Just kidding. >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood >Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:50 AM >To: pipers list >Subject: [NSP] What oil to use? > >Can anybody suggest a sui

[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
Dear all, Very interesting, and thanks for the link. A choyte at 00.02 and again at 00.09, a slurred, or near as dammit, low f# grace note at 00.07 (and similar things near the beginning of the Keel Row - e.g. the very first two notes and the F# to G at 01:37). JA's accompaniment to BI is down

[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
closed-end chanters and keys like that upstart Peacock ;-) >It was keys that came in in his time. Praps I should have put a comma after "closed-end chanters" to preclude any misreading. I think my point about the tradition is clearer than my punctuation tho czirz --

[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
>popularised by the media. As is KT. Maybe, but not in my case. I haven't lived in Britain for decade and she has not to my knowledge ever once been mentioned in the local media where I live (and I can't be bothered reading newspapers). I just got to know her through her CDs (after

[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
Tee hee!!! >-Original Message- >From: Francis Wood [mailto:muse...@tiscali.co.uk] >Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:57 AM >To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) >Cc: Dartmouth NPS >Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: smallpipes > > >On 28 May 2009, at 09:26, > > wrote: > >> I also think Bach, Berg and the Bea

[NSP] Re: what do pipemakers do on their day off?

2009-05-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
Is this as dangerous as it looks? Tho in the present context it's probably safer than admitting to liking KT ;-) c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw >Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:42 PM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth

[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-29 Thread Christopher.Birch
How imaginative! And how many instances of the same joke? I lost count. Is Boy George also guilty of choyting, or was his crime of a minor nature? c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Damon >Sent: Thursday, May 28,

[NSP] No kind of knowledge of the expressive power ....

2009-05-29 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hello again Francis, Here's scan of the Burney I mentioned. I can see his arguments, mutatitis mutandis, as those of the hardline NSP traditionalists turned on their head. I wonder if you perceive the parallels too? I can bore you at great length on them should you wish ;-) Csírz Btw, thanks a

[NSP] Re: No kind of knowledge of the expressive power ....

2009-05-29 Thread Christopher.Birch
Maybe Dartmouth filtered the attachment. c >-Original Message- >From: Philip Gruar [mailto:phi...@gruar.clara.net] >Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:59 AM >To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) >Subject: Re: [NSP] No kind of knowledge of the expressive power > >Chris, Please don't tempt us with

[NSP] Re: No kind of knowledge of the expressive power ....

2009-05-29 Thread Christopher.Birch
It certainly did this time! c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of >christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu >Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:06 AM >To: phi...@gruar.clara.net >Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Re: No kind of k

[NSP] Re: No kind of knowledge of the expressive power ....

2009-05-29 Thread Christopher.Birch
Here's the text with a few OCR error: About the beginning of the seventeenth century madrigals which were almost the only compositions, in parts, for the Chamber, then cultivated, seem to have been suddenly supplanted in the favour of byers of Music by a passion for FANTASIAS of three, four, fi

[NSP] Re: Raindrops or ?

2009-06-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
I've heard the story - probably apocryphal - that Billy wrote it when sheltering from the rain in a shed/barn with a leaky roof and that as the rain got heavier the drips got faster. There again, Billy always tended to get faster FWIW C >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmou

[NSP] Re: this list is safer now

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
> >I got quite a surprise last time I recorded myself playing - >it was far >too fast for my liking Related anecdote: Once while setting up for a gig, music playing in the background included a very fast and flashy version of Orange Blossom Special (not on the pipes!). When I asked who was pla

[NSP] Re: Was: this list is safer now//speed

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Interestingly (to me at least) classical musicians and critics tend to use "preserving the dance character" (of, say, Bach's partitas for solo violin) to mean "not playing too slowly". My experience of playing for dancing (morris, scottish, rocknroll) tells me it should mean "not playing too fas

[NSP] Re: ear-learners vs note-learners

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
regret, and I think this is due to too much music reading. > Sorry, but I think it's just advancing age. It gets us all ;-( To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
>The "flatness" and mechanical playing problems which many >people perceive >with "playing from dots" is only inevitable for people who >struggle with the >reading, and those who think that the dots represent *exactly* >how music >should be played. I would endorse this (and the rest). c O

[NSP] Re: How the brain "reads"

2009-06-15 Thread Christopher.Birch
>when I've had more practice I'll be able to >read whole bars at a time. The ability to read (and hear in your mind's ear and feel in your fingers) in increasingly large chunks just comes with practice - providing you go about it in the right way to begin with. The extreme case is that of the

[NSP] Re: question about number of keys

2009-07-13 Thread Christopher.Birch
I was dissuaded by my maker from getting a top Bflat. Good sense, I never would have used it. I got a top C instead, which I've never used. No criticism of the maker implied here. So we're immediately down to 16. Strangely enough, I never use the low Csharp As for low Dsharp, I might use it m

[NSP] Re: question about number of keys

2009-07-13 Thread Christopher.Birch
>don't let anyone talk you out of getting low C#. But if you do get one, I would recommend getting it on the opposite side of the chanter from the B and the D - it's hard to do a run over three consecutive keys! I know this is contrary to the normal practice of some highly respected makers (wh

[NSP] Re: Transposing music

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
I reckon you'd be better of writing it out by hand. This is what Mozart or Tom Clough would have done. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of The Red Goblin >Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:43 PM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
>or at least what I >thought was the >easy option and eventually came round full circle and did them (and >still do them) in long hand. Thank you, Michael, for this info. I've always got the impression that all this Midi, Abc, Sibelius stuff is probably more laborious than long hand. You've s

[NSP] Re: Transposing music

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
> Yes. Just read it down one note without writing it out. >You'll soon get > used to it and acquire a valuable skill. > Best suggestion yet! c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ah yes, taking the plunge in the first place. Though, Michael Dillon said he has sucked them and seen. Maybe it's a personal temperament/aesthetic thing. Like fact that we're playing pipes and fiddles rather than synthesisers or riding choppers rather than Goldwings. > >Errr.sorry, could yo

[NSP] Re: GUTS?

2009-08-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
Indeed! >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw >Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:40 PM >To: Dartmouth NPS; Anthony Robb >Subject: [NSP] Re: GUTS? > >"Among traditional musicians nothing is so noticeable as >the absen

[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling

2009-08-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Variation in >interpretation is what >music is all about so play the tune the way you want to and don't be >brought down by the fundamentalists. Hear hear!!! CB

[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Anyone know what pijpen means in Dutch? (I do). c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ian & Carol >Bartlett (home account) >Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:33 PM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Re: The Power

[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Let's just say it's not an Italian film director ;-) >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of >christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu >Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:38 PM >To: i...@ihug.co.nz; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP]

[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
> >Whilst we're there, I'm certain that any French speakers will advise >against a careless translation of 'pipe-making'. > Same thing. I hadn't been aware of the French expression, but it's in Petit Robert. c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wb

[NSP] Re: Old Guy

2009-10-26 Thread Christopher.Birch
Karen reckons that to play accordian well you listen to excellent >playing on flute, fiddle, almost anything other than box, and try to >incorporate their characteristic sounds into the accordian, >rather than >just trying to play good accordian. I reckon proper pipers could learn a lot about

[NSP] Re: Old Guy

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
Is that THE Neil Smith? Wa schon, schéi gréiss aus Lëtzebuerg! csirz >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Neil Smith >Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:14 PM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Old Guy > > > Lovel

[NSP] Re: schei greiss

2009-11-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
Modern >(new research) concert instrumentalists, starting as children >now learn >their instrument by ear for the first few years, when they have learnt >the instrument and some of its' possibilities, they are introduced to >the dots and in so doing create a happy medium and a happy player.

[NSP] Re: axel greiss . And pronunciation tip

2009-11-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
Akcherly it's "gréiss", as in "Gréiss Darling". c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: schei greiss

2009-11-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
Sorry, this should be "shay grice" and indeed Dave should have used an acute accent on the "e" in both words - schéi gréiss. It's Luxembourgish for ­­- literally - "beautiful greetings", corresponding to the German "schöne Grüsse". Yes, the dots and strokes do matter for the correct pronunciatio

[NSP] Re: schei greiss

2009-11-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
Oops, deed mer leed nach eng kéier, it should have been "shay grace" not "grice". Grease is not the word. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of >christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:57 PM

[NSP] Re: Message to Chris Birch and Dave S

2009-11-26 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hi Neil! Just phoned my good Luxembourgish lady to check, and we indeed have it. I'll send you a scan 2moro Csírz >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of neil smith >Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:29 PM >To: Dartmout

[NSP] Chariots of fire

2009-11-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
> > I'd still appreciate it if Chris could send the scan, >though, as I seem > to recall that version had harmonies. > I no longer own the Christophory book (gave it away) but the version my good lady has located so far was in a school book sans harmonies. But she thinks it might have harmo

[NSP] Chariots of Fire, imaginative harmonies and pipe-friendly key ;-)

2009-11-30 Thread Christopher.Birch
Speaking of keys, maybe you can retrofit a few more. Csírz Maat et gudd mais net ze dacks -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well Ruggiero Ricci says that when he was 15 he played the Ernst concerto for Heifetz, who was duly impressed but commented "but you need to be able to sight-read it". I suppose one has to practise like hell to get the technique in the first place and then just keep on playing whatever comes alo

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well said, Sheila! Those who damn "classical musicians" are usually in fact damning their own misconceptions of them. There is a big difference between the people who have received some sort of "classical" training but wouldn't be able to play anything without dots in front of them, and then do

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hear hear! >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Eskenazi >Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:16 PM >To: Anthony Robb >Cc: cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; >gibbonssoi...@aol.com >Subject: [NSP

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Stephen: > >The lack of 'improvisation' runs inline with the omnipotence of the >composer and bigger orchestras in Romantic period. Hard to improvise >in this context! True. > >But is this really decline, or the 'rot set(ting) in'??? > Well it was the loss of a skill. Whether it was the "ro

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
John: >I haven't damned 'classical musicians' at all. I wasn't accusing you personally of damning classical musicians. Sorry if it came over that way. Some people, including some who should no better, do damn classical musicians, however, and even take a pride in their own inability to read th

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
I actually agree with all this, but I for one have received the reply "no, we're trying to get away from that" when I asked a well-know Irish musician if he could read music. I have also heard a well-known singer dismissing classical players with the phrase "the buggers couldn't do

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
starts at 2.58 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Steve Bliven Sent: Fri 1/1/2010 7:40 PM To: Marianne Hall; oatenp...@googlemail.com; List - NSP Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4 Nope, still there. Have to wait through some other

[NSP] Re: What Do You Call Yourself?

2010-01-05 Thread Christopher.Birch
>If you are playing in a church I'd suggest Northumbrian small >pipes (alternatively 'smallpipes' or 'small-pipes' . . . there I'd agree with this suggestion (and the spelling smallpipes, coz they're not just any old pipes that happen to be small). I also think it's more conventional to writ

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-02-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Reminds me of a limerick a friend of mine composed in response to an expensive lot of hot air from a rip-off outfit called Time Manager International that I and my colleagues were obliged to attend many years back. A time manager from L.A. (or something that rhymes with day anyway) Was planning

[NSP] vachement bien!

2010-02-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedd2FiZTqM -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedd2FiZTqM To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation - pedantry warning

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher.Birch
I have it on good authority from several Irish persons that the name of the Irish language in English is "Irish". In Irish it's "gaeilge". "Gaelic" is normally reserved for the language of Scotland "Gaeilge na hAlban" (or Gh`aidhlig in Scossgallic) Csirz >-Original Message-

[NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher.Birch
sic transit gloria mundi an alternative is: we had a rough weekend crossing but the next day was fine. c -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation - pedantry warning

2010-02-06 Thread Christopher.Birch
at least you know your brass from your oboe! -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Anita Evans Sent: Fri 2/5/2010 7:57 PM To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation - pedantry warning Matt Seattle wrote: >

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-08 Thread Christopher.Birch
>fidola (which I >think - is a fiddle tuned like a viola, i.e. a >fifth lower). Given that the size of the viola has not been standardised (unlike that of the violin - body length tends to be around 360 mm, with extremes at 354 and 362) , why not just call it a small viola? c To get on or

[NSP] Re: Fidola?

2010-02-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thanks for the explanation. I think a similar arrangement has been used on other instruments in the past. It is strange that I can't find any reference to such a beast on the Internet, but I did find this: [1]http://kaczmarek.org/pages/biopage_folder/bio_1.html Wiki is no

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Stringing of "baroque" violins is another can of worms since tension varied widely according to local conventions and personal preferences. There is also the question of equal tension versus progressive tension and whether wound strings should be used for the G and/or D. It is, or at least used

[NSP] Re: kipper box

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Would someone care to admit to a close enough acquaintance >with a female baroque >violinist to safely enquire about her knicker elastic? I'm working on it ;-) c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Never tried Infeld. I'm not too keen on the medium dominants but the heavies work well for this purpose. Heavy Evah Pirazzi or Obbligato might do a good job too. I use the mediums on my normal fiddles. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmout

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
>> This is interesting to me as I have an unreconstructed >baroque violin from about 1820 > >Sorry Tim, but it ain't baroque . . True, this is very late to be referred to as baroque, but if it's unreconstructed it's probably closer to the baroque setup than a real "modern" violin. Maybe it w

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
I have a smallish fiddle with a neck very similar to what is seen on "baroque" instruments. I have been told by a luthier friend, however, that it probably doesn't even predate 1900. I don't think makers and players have ever been all that conscientious about fitting in with the history books ;-

[NSP] Re: Travel bag for pipes

2010-03-19 Thread Christopher.Birch
as a musical instrument! That's debat(e)able! ;-) c

[NSP] Re: Jack Dodd, OT: acronyms

2010-04-06 Thread Christopher.Birch
Your Meaning May Vary then? c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say >Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:23 AM >To: NSP group; Richard York >Subject: [NSP] Re: Jack Dodd, OT: acronyms > >On 6 Apr 2010, Richard York w

[NSP] Re: morpeth museum site and more time travel

2010-04-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
>todays' world. How many todays is that? Or is this what passes for punctuation in today's world? ;-) The text ain't that bad. An obvious typo, wrong tense, superfluous spaces and a bit of wordiness. I'd suggest the following revision. >* >The Bagpipe Museum has been housed in Morpeth's m

[NSP] Re: Smallpipes Simulator

2010-04-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
mis-tuned drones with the Saymulator. You can hear it on some recordings of real pipers too! Not to mention the chanter out of tune with the drones. If the cap fits ... c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: morpeth museum site and more time travel

2010-04-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Curiously enough, the last sentence of the original is correct, the >organisation is called the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle >upon Tyne. Oops, I hadn't been aware of that. Thx. c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.htm

[NSP] Re: James Grieve

2010-10-26 Thread Christopher.Birch
notorious for his ' dripping tap" gacing style, which >we eventually learned was called choyting. I'd always understood the "dripping tap" style to be choyte-free piping with the notes dutifully spat out one after another. csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
- we should perhaps >think of a (dissonant) e resolving down on to the d of a G >major tonic chord, Very well put! c John Gibbons wrote: > >>the reprint edition has a typo in the >> penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning >> >> g/f/|egB egB... >> >> instead of >> >> g/f/|egd

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
BTW, does anyone know whether the omission of the dot after the first quaver in, for example, the last bar of the first strain was a convention of the time (given that there was not much music around in 11/16 time) or just an error? c To get on or off this list see list information at http:/

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
John Gibbons wrote: >the reprint edition has a typo in the > penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning > > g/f/|egB egB... > > instead of > > g/f/|egd egB ... > > as in Peacock itself - see FARNE or the facsimile. > > The typo gives an e minor flavour which doesn't belong, I fe

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Bit over the top isn't it? And anyway the monkeys and their trypewriters (sic) are a fallacy. You'd long have exhausted the number of particles in the universe before you got close to having an infinite number of anything. Infinity is, er, big. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
The link from the rant to Gaughan's main page doesn't work. Somebody being clueless, I assume. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:41 AM >To: NSP group >Subject: [NSP]

[NSP] Re: How to play Northumbrian Smallpipes with Detached Fingering

2010-11-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
It says Helen Fish at the end, so I assume it's Paul Rhodes ;-) >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:05 AM >To: NSP group; Richard Evans >Subject: [NSP] Re: How to play North

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
Northumbrian pipes can do better than any other; that precise >delivery of detached notes with duration and silences perfectly timed. But unfortunately the obsession with detaching the notes sometimes lead to the durations and silences being somewhat random - thus destroying the rhythmic flow.

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
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[NSP] Re: Anthony Robb

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
> two best instruments in the world. You forgot the viols! >I have always been moved by music and it affects me often at a > physical level. Not just bringing me to tears when it is >beautiful but > also hurting when it's not right. I can sympathise with this. Personally, I find bad tuni

[NSP] Re: technique etcetera

2010-12-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
> >The first tune I ever did this with was Crooked Bawbee, as >suggested by Bill >Hume. It worked well for me, I didn't get bored with it. >Helen Yup, great tune and one that like even the way I play it myself. It's a healthy exercise on the tightrope between beauty and sentimentality/kitsch

[NSP] Re: technique etcetera

2010-12-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
When I first started David Burleigh kindly pointed me in the direction of the first four tunes in Derek Hobbs' Folk in Harmony, Book 1: Morag of Dunvegan Leaving Lismore Queen Mary Believe Me Highly recommended for beginners. C >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
Nice one John! c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:50 PM >To: Anthony Robb; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; rob@milecastle27.co.uk >Subject: [NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning > >"Oth

[NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
> out of tune drones (and this > unfortunately is the norm it seems to me) do little to enhance the > music. This is true even in the most surprising quarters i.e. modern > recordings where retakes could be done fairly easily to >correct this. I was starting to wonder whether I was the o

[NSP] Re: Doublin' (Keenan & Glackin)

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
'Your pipes are more suitable for solo playing' perhaps? nice! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: A 70 cent divergence

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
More than a third of a tone in old money. er, semitone? c -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: A 70 cent divergence

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
> Adults with amusia Now then. >Does this describe an absence of any sense of humour? I would have thought rather an irrepressible sense of humour! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: A 70 cent divergence

2011-01-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
oops, sorry, of course. overhasty is my middle name ;-( c __ From: gibbonssoi...@aol.com [mailto:gibbonssoi...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:12 PM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT); a...@bcorkett.freeserve.c

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm afraid I can't help here, but I have a related query. Can anyone explain the significance, if any, of the shapes? c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Gruar >Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:37 PM >To: Dartmout

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
>If your question is why those >particular >shapes - I have no idea. No, it was why shapes at all? because if you remove them you are left with conventional notation. (I have perused a copy, but unfortunately don't own one). As you say: "people who didn't read music much

[NSP] Re: Still off topic: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
>There's still though the question 'why?'. I'd have thought if a person >has the ability to learn the sol fa and the shapes, it would be easier >to learn the ordinary notes. Exactly! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Still off topic: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
>easier than straining the eye to see if that little black >circle is an A or a C and how do I then find that pitch on the >spot. Fair enough, but for someone whose vision is as bad as mine, it's easier to see where a blob is (on which line or between which lines?) than to discern the precise

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
>I think in France they have a "fixed do" system, where mib >=Meeflat = Eb This is correct. At the Conservatoires they teach people to sing the note names, which I personally find a pointless exercise for various reasons, including the fact that they miss out the words "bémol, dièse and bécart"

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
Yup, I can sympathise with all this (especially the bit about unintentionally rude or nonsensical - I was once warning a class of Germans learning English to avoid the word "backside" when they mean "back" or "verso" and managed to make precisely the same mistake myself in German while doing so

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
Now this is really off-topic but might amuse some. If likely to disapprove, please delete now. I was once taking a sectional rehearsal for the viola in the student orchestra at the Luxembourg conservatoire (where they use the French system) when I found myself "translating" the rehearsal marks

[NSP] Re: Shape notes

2011-01-13 Thread Christopher.Birch
thanks, John, though I confess I still don't see it. I haven't got anything like absolute pitch but I have got very good relative pitch and I find the intervals are perfectly clear from conventional notation - which is what you are left with if you take the shapes away. I suppose it's just a mat

[NSP] Re: Rotting of The Cotton Threads

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher.Birch
I actually rather like the 2nd viennese school version, especially with the 15/16 bars at the end of strains! c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John >Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:12 PM >To: 'NSP group' >S

[NSP] Re: Bewicks "German Spa"

2011-02-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ouch!!! >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ian Lawther >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:09 AM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Bewicks "German Spa" > >I've just noticed a tune called "German Spa" in Bewick and

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
> I put this down to my pipes being tuned with G as their >home key, as it > were, This is probably it, as you probably (I hope) have your pipes tuned in more like just intonation than equal temperament. So your nominal B, for example, will be very flat as the second degree o

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