Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Thomas W Shinder wrote: > Microsoft is very clear on their data center boundaries. > If you want the information to stay in the US – then it stays there. Right next to all the Sidekick data... ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a reso

RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Jeremy Anderson
Sony Vaios had a similar setup in the WinXP days. Everything was set to single click instead of the normal double click for files, applications, etc. Don't know why I remember that, or if its applicable here. PS Sony Laptops often cause me to sit in the corner for hours rocking and crying

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
All the big vendors can address this stuff, especially if you are a big client. Not only are their relevant laws, but there is also the associated PR issues (e.g. are you going to be the first big player in your industry to send your data to some facility outside the country? What are your custo

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Thomas W Shinder
Microsoft is very clear on their data center boundaries. If you want the information to stay in the US - then it stays there. If in the EU, then it stays there too. Google and Amazon? I don't think you get the same SLAs - but you should confirm with those vendors. MS has made significant st

RE: Folder Redirect

2009-11-17 Thread James Hill
Create an AD security group and add the computer accounts to it that you want offline files to run on. Then set the GPO security to only apply that policy for that security group. Works well here. From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Saturday, 14 November 2009 6:52 AM To:

RE: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
either punch block direct connects, or patch panel. Latter choice more flexibility in reconnecting to different pairs Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security _ From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:00 PM To: NT Syst

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Excellent point, Ben, and most of the big players (who have datacenters in multiple countries), already have to deal with exactly this sort of thing. EU privacy laws expressly forbid certain geographic co-mingling. The problem becomes more difficult when you have a cloud vendor which is providing

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Cloud is viable already, depending on usage. Some key benefits of the cloud are that you don't have to tell people how to get to it or make special provisions for them to access it, and it facilitates dynamic scalability, which is great for when it is not feasible to pre-provision the necessary ca

RE: Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another

2009-11-17 Thread Marty Nelson
Please let me apologize! Both servers are running Windows Server 2003 (Patched to the gills). The users are local users created to use a resource on that specific machine and because some are people who do not work here, in fact come are clients, creating domain accounts on the server itself s

Re: This is a new one on me...

2009-11-17 Thread Kurt Buff
And that's why the clocks on all my machines are in 24-hour mode, and the date format is -mm-dd. Well, that, and because it's so much nicer to sort files and file content with those formats... Kurt On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:03, David Lum wrote: > BTDT.  11:15 patch/reboot, forgot to make i

RE: Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Schorr
Which OS? Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com b...@rolandschorr.com From: Marty Nelson [mailto:mnel...@transdyn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:50 AM To: NT

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Jon Harris
Agreed and you may need the space later for something else. Since you already know that who ever made the mistake it affects the telephone system as well. Go with a full closet and put in the switches with fiber between the floors. Jon On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Mayo, Bill wrote: > It i

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM, James Kerr wrote: > Maybe a 1Gb connection will be able to > sustain about 40 100Mb desktops? As others have said, that depends entirely on what the desktops are doing. Forty desktops just browsing the web and reading email should be fine on a single gigabit up

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
40 users on 100mbit? Doing normal tasks, or something more more network intensive? (Say, all 40 users streaming youtube or doing video conferencing...) If doing the normal every day stuff... no problem. Even if they are heavy network users, you should be okay. --Matt Ross Ephrata School Distri

RE: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Mayo, Bill
It is certainly my experience that a 1 GB connection between floors can support that number of connections (or more). It really depends on the utilization, of course. A wiring closet per floor is what I would consider standard, with fiber going between floors for switch to switch connections. In

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Jon Harris
Are 2 switches with GBIC capability and running a fiber bundle between the two locations out of the question? I would stay away from the block to block patching if at all possible. This does have the ability to be changed later if you need additional server space. Jon On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:

Re: Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Houston
Just to clarify a few things that make a big difference. - are you using a workgroup or domain? - Do users have permissions set on the computer or through user groups? - These are windows 2000 or newer machines? Sean Houston On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Marty Nelson wrote: > Is t

Re: Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another

2009-11-17 Thread asbzone
You need to create the accounts, at a minimum. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Marty Nelson Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:50:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another Is there a way out there that would allow m

Moving LOCAL users from one computer to another

2009-11-17 Thread Marty Nelson
Is there a way out there that would allow me to do that without having to recreate all of the users manually? I'm currently on Google looking around but most articles deal with moving user accounts on a domain. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -Marty ~ Finally, powerful endpoint secur

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread James Kerr
Yeah I was also thinking about just having one fast connection from the 3rd to the 2nd floor. All the 3rd floor are 100Mb. They have yet to run the cables from the 3rd to the 2nd. Maybe a 1Gb connection will be able to sustain about 40 100Mb desktops? Any ideas? Another idea I'm looking into is

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Not to mention this is the preferred way of wiring... "Horizontal" wiring between floors to individual IDFs connecting to a single MDF, and "Vertical" wiring to the individual users. Man that brings back memories of Cisco classes... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message

RE: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Mayo, Bill
+1 I would be very wary of adding a termination to the middle of an ethernet cable run. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: facilities wiring question On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:48 PM, James Kerr wrote: > New facility. The electricians ran wire to a location on the third floor but > they ultimately need to go to the second floor, so they will run cable from > the second floor server room up to the location on the third floor. Might be easier t

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread mross
Then dedinatly use the 110 block. This is a perfect use for it. If you have never used it before, have somebody show you how to do the termination, as it's not immediatly obvious with the block, terminators and wiring tools. Other options include moving your IDF to the floor, using wiring

RE: MS DPM - data protection manager

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Stovall
Ask the librarian? -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM - data protection manager "Open Sesame!" -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wp

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread James Kerr
New facility. The electricians ran wire to a location on the third floor but they ultimately need to go to the second floor, so they will run cable from the second floor server room up to the location on the third floor. Tis ghetto I know and I don't understand why they did that, something to do

RE: MS DPM - data protection manager

2009-11-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
"Open Sesame!" -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS DPM - data protection manager How the heck do you unlock a library door? I've tried the code below in every possible combinatio

MS DPM - data protection manager

2009-11-17 Thread Phil Thompson
How the heck do you unlock a library door? I've tried the code below in every possible combination. In GUI it is grayed out so I've tried the management shell. All I've substituted my server name, the drive name in many different combination. 1- Unlock-DPMLibraryDoor [-DPMLibrary] 2- Unlock

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Thinking more on this... Why would you need to connect 50 to 50 cat 5? I'm guessing something was cut? How hard would it be to re-run the wires? This is a better solution, obviously... but also difficult if the wires all run in different directions. Can you run wires in bulk, say 25-pair cat5e

Re: facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Ah, the good old 110 wiring block. Yes, I would use that style of connector. I would actually use two of them, one for each termination of a wire. Then I would connect them using these: http://www.hometech.com/hts_images/uc/uc-e511c803_1.jpg Hope that helps! --Matt Ross Ephrata School Distric

RE: This is a new one on me...

2009-11-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
Good one, Try when you do that to 5K in workstations, that is a BIG WHOOPSIE... Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:d

RE: This is a new one on me...

2009-11-17 Thread David Lum
BTDT. 11:15 patch/reboot, forgot to make it PM. Oopsie17 servers David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issue

facilities wiring question

2009-11-17 Thread James Kerr
Can anyone recommened what solution they would use if you have 50 CAT5 wires that I need to attach to 50 other CAT5 wires? What would you use? Would this work? http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/CAT5e-300-Pair-Wiring-Block-Kit-1-Wiring-Block-60-4-Pair-Connecting-Blocks-12-5-Pair-Connectin

Re: https and certs issues

2009-11-17 Thread Harry Singh
I have a similar requirement at one site. Everything is resolavble to company.com, inside and out. They use checkpoint Fw's. Rulebase additions from inside network to outside nat'd address pasthru the firewall just fine. I enter static DNS entries on the AD-INT zone and all works like a charm. I

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Schorr
We've written quite a bit on the subject of Cloud Computing and potential issues on our blog: http://www.rolandschorr.com/blogs/index.php?blog=1 One of the big issues for me, that doesn't seem to get much play, is the issue of geolocation. When I control my data I control where on the planet

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Interesting... cloud based NAS as opposed to SAN or object storage. -sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cloud computing... your opinions What about Zetta for storage? http://www.zetta

RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Gotta be. I have several Win 7 boxes and have never seen this. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click H my Win7 boxen don't do that. Any chance this is a mouse/tou

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Link
What about Zetta for storage? http://www.zetta.net/ I'm giving them some serious consideration for our offsite backup storage repository. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > Ya, that’s not bad, factoring in space, cooling and power. We were > looking more at the storage

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Cook
Not according to Steve, he pointed it out specifically since I was talking about a 24/7 uptime server and I don't do 'nix (except for VMWare of course!) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352

RE: https and certs issues

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Lol... man I brain farted on that. Right you are thanks for the correction. -sc -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: https and certs issues Umm, my copy is by Paul Albitz & Cricket

RE: https and certs issues

2009-11-17 Thread Free, Bob
Umm, my copy is by Paul Albitz & Cricket Liu, granted my book is ~12 years old but the last time I saw Cricket he had not changed his name. But as you infer, it remains the bible of DNS. His firm (infoblox) had some pretty nice educational type materials and test software up on their website. http

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Meixler
i believe EC2 reserved instance pricing is only available for Linux instances From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cloud computing... your opinions He also said there was another pricing model that has you pa

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
If you find any specifics about it would you mind forwarding them (or links) along? Thanks. -sc From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cloud computing... your opinions He also said there was anot

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Cook
He also said there was another pricing model that has you pay an up front charge and less per hour, I think he referred to it as a reserved server instance. I'm looking at it for a VAR I do some work for. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesvil

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Ya, that's not bad, factoring in space, cooling and power. We were looking more at the storage costs tho, and the associated bandwidth charge getting the data in and out. I think it was that xfer cost that was gonna hurt us. We may need to revisit... thanks for that. -sc From: John C

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Ø "If an organization is large enough to produce its own, then the benefits of it using the cloud are diminished" I don't think you can generalize that. Here at NIH there are the resources for the scientific community to build their own stuff... yet they may need a 500 node compute clust

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Cook
I was talking to Steve Riley last week (he's working foe Amazon these days) and he quoted me 12 cents an hour for a basic server on Amazon Web Services - around $1000 a year. He also wasn't saying much about S3 indicating AWS was the direction they were heading for the long haul. Pretty secure s

RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Kelsay
Thanks for all the responses. It must be specific to this machine or group of machines. If it is not an enterprise problem, I'll deal with it locally. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Sub

Re: FrontMotion/FirefoxADM

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Michael D Faulkner wrote: > Have to admit, never installed an MSI via GPO.  Will that work > under Vista, "standard user", with UAC enabled? Yes. MSIs which are "Assigned" via GPO are installed using the NT machine trust account during computer startup, so the

RE: activating 2008 ts license server

2009-11-17 Thread Eldridge, Dave
I found it . I had to add the license manager. L thanks From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: activating 2008 ts license server So, you right-click the server name, choose properties, a

RE: Not wanting to be a spammer

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Egads. Start buying lotto tickets. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Not wanting to be a spammer On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > As an asid

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
We looked at S3 pricing for a small startup I'm involved with, and it actually seemed rather expensive compared to some competing models. Admittedly we were looking at storing long-form video, so perhaps our requirements were the more significant problem. So are you using CloudFront as an objec

Re: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > H my Win7 boxen don’t do that. I don't have any Win 7 boxen yet, but I noticed on Vista that if you enable the GPO item for "Turn on Classic Shell", and then rename a file, Windows Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-cl

Re: Not wanting to be a spammer

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, David W. McSpadden wrote: > In testing yesterday it seems that everyone will flag me > as a spammer because the email source can not be reverse looked up > properly. You also have an SPF record. You'll have to set that properly, or your message is likely to get

RE: https and certs issues

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Ben is absolutely correct here... "DNS & BIND" by Crickett & Lu is required reading if you are going to be doing some significant DNS hosting for yourself. Or even if not, it's great reference scan material... -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tu

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Jon Harris
Last place I was forced to look into this and due to the lack of perceived security I was able to kill it before it got going. Keeping or editing sensitive information where you do not control where it is stored or who can or can not look at it just makes it too dangerous to be used. How would yo

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Perzactly... I just gave a similar example before I read your post. That can be a big deal. -sc -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

RE: Event log monitor/aggregator

2009-11-17 Thread Jim Slattery
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RE: activating 2008 ts license server

2009-11-17 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Forget it. I found it . I didn't add it when I installed the ts in the first place. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: activating 2008 ts license server I am working with MS clearinghouse to move

RE: activating 2008 ts license server

2009-11-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
So, you right-click the server name, choose properties, and are not able to choose telephone as a connection method? -Bonnie From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: activating 2008 ts license server I am work

Re: Not wanting to be a spammer

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Kim Longenbaugh wrote: > Part of hosing your own DNS would be to get the forward and reverse address > space delegated to you, making you authoritative for those records. Getting reverse space delegated is often damn-near impossible, unless you have a large pub

Re: Not wanting to be a spammer

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > As an aside.. if anybody has FIOS business class ... Likewise aside: I was fairly astounded recently when I called Comcast to get a custom PTR record for our "Comcast Workplace" static IP feed, and the first tech knew exactly what I w

activating 2008 ts license server

2009-11-17 Thread Eldridge, Dave
I am working with MS clearinghouse to move a 2003 terminal license server to a 2008 server. I was able to deactivate the 2003 but I don't see a prompt to add the 2008 license server. I clicked on ad tools, term services but I don't get an option for TS License manger to activate one by phone.

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Meixler
Yup. We love S3 and CloudFront. Though we admittedly don't have numbers to prove CloudFront's effectiveness S3 is brilliant for simple and cheap on line storage of assets, like jpgs or pdfs, for a website. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11

Re: https and certs issues

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: > But I don't understand how creating nothing but a zone named > board.imcu.com would successfully resolve back to an ip address the > browser could use. board.imcu.com. SOA ns.example.com. whate...@example.com. [...] board.imcu.com. A 1

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I heard of an instance recently where a bank inadvertently sent an email to a customer that contained sensitive info. The bank got a court injunction shutting down that users email account so they could purge the email. An apples-and-mineral comparison to be sure, but that innocent end user was

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Again, though, it comes down to economies of scale. If an organization is large enough to produce its own, then the benefits of it using the cloud are diminished. And if an organization has deep pockets, it can reproduce internally what others can only experience by joining a larger community.

Re: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Nov 2009 at 10:54, Steve Kelsay wrote: > It is on a Toshiba Satellite laptop with home premium. The web has a lot > of people complaining about the feature, so it must be there. The fact that > yours does not do it show me that there is a way to turn it off. Maybe it is > only on the ho

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Nov 2009 at 10:32, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > One of the models many are exploring is internal cloud... or hybrid, which > brings some of the benefit without exposing the issues related to external > reliability (or competence). -sc Nor exposing your company data to a legal attack on

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Statistically, do we have any reason to believe that cloud computing is less secure than internal hosting of data? Assuming one is dealing with a reputable service provider, are the odds really any greater of there being a security breach in the cloud versus an internal breach? For instance, we

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
The thing is that when I control the facility myself, then I can build my own redundant systems. For instance we have MPLS, MAN and satellite connections between all of our facilities for redundancy on many levels. When you move to the cloud I no longer have the ability to do that (Microsoft is

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Very cool. Are you using S3 too? -sc From: Adam Meixler [mailto:ad...@interlink1.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cloud computing... your opinions There of course business concerns with cloud computing such as reliability, secur

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
That's a good example of what may be a hybrid cloud: hosted by a larger part of the org, yet accessed as a hosted service. Are you provisioning your own apps or using a SOA in the true sense of cloud, or is more along the lines of web-apps and databases... a more traditional ISP model? -sc

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Meixler
There of course business concerns with cloud computing such as reliability, security, and cost however after having spent significant time with EC2 and goGrid over the last 6 months there are also very many drawbacks to each way of implementing a cloud. Examples such as, EC2 instances always ha

Re: Citrix question, could use some guidance

2009-11-17 Thread Jon Harris
Thanks for the 10,000 foot view I was looking at that recently and was getting lost in the terminology. Jon On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Webster wrote: > You can me now or you can pay me later! Take the time to profile apps, > save them to a share (or web server) and publish them as stre

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Others have already offered great input-things like vetting the cloud vendor to ensure security is what it needs to be (both for internal needs and regulatory purposes), and planning/maintaining an exit strategy from the start. Our most mission-critical data as a school district is our finance/H

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Again, there are many different models. Cloud computing does not always equal external hosting. Internal cloud for larger organizations can be a compelling case. We've been working some with David Linthicum to define NIH strategy. I've not read his book, but he's got a lot of good, and bala

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Thanks for the warning! If you ever come across MedForce, feel free to give me a call. Running in over Citrix here. I've got another one too... Mestamed ... ever deal with that piece of crap? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, Novemb

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
LOL we have it, and yes it's a beast, java based, so there goes your virtualization gain ( if there was one to be had). And Yes this application is used in the healthcare space, IMHO its craptacular Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Secur

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread Webster
Or how about adding an x86 2008 server to the mix? You can do like Citrix does and run two farms. One x86 and the other x64. Then present them both via Web Interface. Your users will never know there are two farms. They only see the icons they are allowed to see and access. You can use the sa

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
The security of the Cloud, is the real issue, can you really trust your data and applications being co-mingled with others data and applications, especially when you have to comply with PCI/HIPAA/GLBA/Sox and other regulations ( especially PCI which has some stringent controls and makes classifying

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread Tom Miller
Ha! No, it's called CMHC. The thing is huge: runs on AIX, some users use terminal emulation to get to it, some a very crappy web interface. The web interface wants full access to system and there are painful work-arounds on Citrix, and those don't work on the new version XenApp. If you ever

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread mse...@ont.com
You can run a mixed farm with XenApp 4.5 and 5.0. Unfortunetly application virtualization won't fix this if it won't run on Windows 2008. Mike Original Message: - From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:04:28 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Su

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread David Mazzaccaro
The app wouldn't happen to be "MedForce Scan" would it??? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Another Citrix ? Here's a fun one: we have this beast of a medical records sy

RE: Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread Webster
Stream the app. Webster From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Subject: Another Citrix ? Here's a fun one: we have this beast of a medical records system application that I made available via our older Presentation Servers 4.5 farm on Windows 2003 server. Come XenApp and Windows 2

RE: Citrix question, could use some guidance

2009-11-17 Thread Webster
You can me now or you can pay me later! Take the time to profile apps, save them to a share (or web server) and publish them as streamed. This is done one time (in theory at least). Or: For Each XenApp Server Do For Each Application Do Install App Install updates Next Next

RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Terry Dickson
I have Enterprise running on a few dozen boxes already and have never seen this. -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

Another Citrix ?

2009-11-17 Thread Tom Miller
Here's a fun one: we have this beast of a medical records system application that I made available via our older Presentation Servers 4.5 farm on Windows 2003 server. Come XenApp and Windows 2008 and the thing won't work. There are some compatibility issues with 2008 and 64-bit. Other than

RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Doesn't do it on by default on mine either (x64 Ultimate) From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click Maybe that is it.

RE: Folder Redirect

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Blair
Thanks Bonnie. I will look into this and give it a try. Thanks, Chris Blair www.IdentiSys.com chris_bl...@identisys.com 952-294-1200 x270 From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Folder Redirect

Re: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Roger Wright
Cloud Computing: I've used it for email filtering, and you're right, for functions like that it makes sense. After all, all external email has to travel the cloud anyway. Obviously, less so for mission critical functions like databases where the Internet connection itself is the biggest single p

Re: Network audit software to list all EXEs on a machine

2009-11-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 14 Nov 2009 at 0:08, Sam Cayze wrote: > EZ Audit. Tried it, uninstalled software is only listed by name and EXE size, no date- time stamp nor any way that I could see to make EZAudit calculate some sort of MD5 or other hash for identification. Is there some way to make EZAudit do this? --

RE: Citrix question, could use some guidance

2009-11-17 Thread Jeremy Anderson
Aside from "very fast roll out of additional XenApp Servers" any thing else I should consider when choosing which way I should deploy my apps? I am inclined to go with published as it just sounds eaisier. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:27 AM T

RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Maybe that is it. I'm running Enterprise, so maybe it's home? -sc From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click It is on a Toshiba Satellite laptop with home pr

RE: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Kelsay
It is on a Toshiba Satellite laptop with home premium. The web has a lot of people complaining about the feature, so it must be there. The fact that yours does not do it show me that there is a way to turn it off. Maybe it is only on the home premium. I was just getting worried that when we roll it

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread mse...@ont.com
Cloud Computing is taking over where application service providers (ASP) left off. ASP was ahead of its time and not ready for prime time. I just got back from a conference where some executives told me cloud computing is coming and get ready. Cost will drive this model whether we like it or not.

SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
None of mine do either and I have over a dozen running Windows 7 that I use regularly. Tim From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SUSPECT: RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click H my Win7 boxen don't do t

RE: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
H my Win7 boxen don't do that. Any chance this is a mouse/touchpad driver feature? -sc From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Mouse Hover to Click Am I the only one that hates this fe

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
One of the models many are exploring is internal cloud... or hybrid, which brings some of the benefit without exposing the issues related to external reliability (or competence). -sc From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System

RE: Cloud computing... your opinions

2009-11-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Well, it's much more than just a network connected computer. That's part of it, of course, but the idea of the cloud tends to focus much more on the provisioning, scalability, high availability, and geographically dispersed capabilities of such systems, among other things. We are doing some ini

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