Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Richard Stovall
Luckily I haven't had to open any support tickets with Sunbelt in quite a while. Like Dave Eldridge, I also monitor the Vipre forum via e-mail and what I've seen over the 6-odd months since Sunbelt moved Vipre discussions there is that most issues can be handled pretty rapidly in the forum with

RE: OT: Data Center Built 22 Stories Underground in 300M Yr Old Cave

2009-12-15 Thread Sam Cayze
Lol :) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Data Center Built 22 Stories Underground in 300M Yr Old Cave What - they have no respect for the ecosys... Ah, forget it. Too easy.

Re: OT: Data Center Built 22 Stories Underground in 300M Yr Old Cave

2009-12-15 Thread Kurt Buff
What - they have no respect for the ecosys... Ah, forget it. Too easy. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 16:45, Sam Cayze wrote: > This is pretty neat. > > > > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/12/ultra-efficient-data-center-housed-22-stories-underground-in-limestone-cave.php > > > > http://preview.tin

OT: Data Center Built 22 Stories Underground in 300M Yr Old Cave

2009-12-15 Thread Sam Cayze
This is pretty neat. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/12/ultra-efficient-data-center-hous ed-22-stories-underground-in-limestone-cave.php http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycp3oop Sam Cayze Information Technology Administrator ROLLOUTS ONSITE * ON DEMAND LinkedIn: http://www.linkedi

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-15 Thread Harry Singh
Is it recommended to kick off defrag's for VM's who are using shared storage ? On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:41 PM, David Lum wrote: > We use PerfectDisk here with uh...results. Inobtrusive, but no idea if it > helps or not. I mean the servers stay defragged but that's about all I know > :-) > > D

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Joseph Heaton
Same here, Phillips 1GB, generic as all get out, AAA battery, holds about 150 songs and I just swap out when I get tired of those... >>> 12/15/2009 6:36 AM >>> I have no idea what mine is (I almost never use it), but it is a solid state Creative of some sort. 1 Gb, USB, generic as can be, and

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-15 Thread David Lum
We use PerfectDisk here with uh...results. Inobtrusive, but no idea if it helps or not. I mean the servers stay defragged but that's about all I know :-) David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From:

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The native defragmentation tool in Windows 2003 and above is sufficient to handle the task, and can easily be scheduled. I haven't used any 3rd party products for this role in over 5 years. A weekly schedule will work for most systems. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) *Pro

re: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Juned Shaikh
Not sure about DL 185, but in blade environment - if ONBOARD Administrator is not functional all the FANS will spin at full Speed. Thanks, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Re: Backup hardware question

2009-12-15 Thread wjh
We have one client with 13 TB of data. We still do off to tape weekly for offsite storage. LTO4. still takes way too long. Bill > *From:* Chad Leeper [mailto:c...@capitalcityfruit.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:02 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Backup hardware q

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Sullivan
No problems here, I have 160 systems on either 5562 or 5563 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Bob Fronk wrote: > At my main gig, and one of my side jobs, Vipre has started popping an > alert from Active Protection that it has found an issue and must reboot the > computer. The history shows no

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Not here, I've got dozens of servers/workstations with 5662 and none of them have the X under needs reboot. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > Over 100 now with issue at 5662. They also show up in the Vipre console > with an “X” under needs reboot. 5663 is rolling out now, bu

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Fronk
Over 100 now with issue at 5662. They also show up in the Vipre console with an "X" under needs reboot. 5663 is rolling out now, but it does not appear to solve the problem. Looks like everyone that already had the pop-up will have to reboot. Hopefully, the ones that don't, 5663 will not cau

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Chris Orovet
+1 I just updated all my servers and pc's and ive had no issues with either one. Regards, Chris Orovet Technical Support O: (727)812-0276 Ext. 125 F: (727)812-0278 Email: supp...@atsi-inc.com Web: http://www.atsi-inc.com "Whatever relationships you have attracted in your life

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread John Leto
I've had machines and servers with 5562 all day today and I haven't had any issues. yet. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: wide spread Vipre issue? The problem m

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Jonathan Link
Most of our systems got 5562 yesterday. Even though I'm out of it, I think I would've noticed howls from the users. Of course, I only have ~45 computers total to worry about. FWIW, I'm a bit behind on approving MS updates on the WSUS. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > The pr

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread N Parr
Mine just went to 5563, didn't see any problems with 5562. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: wide spread Vipre issue? The problem must be with 5562. PCs without that def

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Fronk
The problem must be with 5562. PCs without that def, no issues. As soon as they update to 5562, the pop up starts. 50+ PCs with issue now.. XP, Win7, Vista, 2003 Server and 2008 Server. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:21 PM To:

RE: Windows 2008 Fax server or alternate?

2009-12-15 Thread Sam Cayze
Deploying NetSatisFAXtion here with some T.38 SIP/VoIP Trunks. Sam Cayze Information Technology Administrator ROLLOUTS ONSITE * ON DEMAND LinkedIn Profile Facebook Profile From: Tom

FYI, Vipre and Dell Laptops

2009-12-15 Thread John Aldrich
FYI, in case any of you have Dell laptops, they often have the Embassy Trust Suite installed on them and some versions have a bad DLL file, wxvault.dll, which will cause problems with various antivirus products, including Vipre. I got bit by that today on my boss' laptop. I emailed tech support and

RE: Windows 2008 Fax server or alternate?

2009-12-15 Thread Mayo, Bill
GFI FaxMaker does this, but not sure that it fits the inexpensive bit. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 2008 Fax server or alternate? Hi Folks: I'm looking for a

Windows 2008 Fax server or alternate?

2009-12-15 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Folks: I'm looking for a system that can receive faxes, convert them to PDF format, and forward them to an end user (I'd somehow tie a direct number to the e-mail address). I currently do this with our Toshiba voice mail system, but the load is getting too heavy and I'm looking for alterna

RE: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread John Aldrich
No problems here with 5562. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: wide spread Vipre issue? +1 (no issues & same defs) On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jonathan Link

RE: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Some servers do that.. I always assumed it was an exercise... I.e. cycling up to all speeds and maybe making sure The RPM sensors are working etc.. I do have some DL380s with VMWare ESXi 3.5 on them, and the embedded HP agents aren't smart enough to throttle the fans.. they are in jet engine mode

RE: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Phillip Partipilo
This one is weird, it powers on full-tilt, man, you can hear it throughout the entire office, but the fans calm down before the OS loads, usually about 10 seconds after poweron, I don't think the OS has even started to load when they spin down a bit (still darn loud). Phillip Partipilo Parametri

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
+1 (no issues & same defs) On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > Nope, with definitions at #5562. > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > >> At my main gig, and one of my side jobs, Vipre has started popping an >> alert from Active Protection that it has found an

Re: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew Laya
DL servers I have used always run like that until they have an OS loaded and running. Hth, Andrew On 12/15/09, Free, Bob wrote: > Does it have redundant PS? I have an old 1U Dell server in my office > that sounds like a Lear jet if you don't plug in both power supplies... > > -Original Mes

RE: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Mayo, Bill
Have not used a DL185, but my general experience with HP servers is that the fans go full-tilt until such time as you get the OS loaded to the point where it has the drivers that control it. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 20

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Jonathan Link
Nope, with definitions at #5562. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > At my main gig, and one of my side jobs, Vipre has started popping an > alert from Active Protection that it has found an issue and must reboot the > computer. The history shows no threats found. > > > > I have

Re: wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Nothing here. Defs at 5563 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > At my main gig, and one of my side jobs, Vipre has started popping an > alert from Active Protection that it has found an issue and must reboot the > computer. The history shows no threats found. > > > > I have alr

RE: DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Free, Bob
Does it have redundant PS? I have an old 1U Dell server in my office that sounds like a Lear jet if you don't plug in both power supplies... -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: DL1

DL185 fan speed

2009-12-15 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Anyone know how to shut these things up a little bit? Not yet racked it, its sitting on the tech bench while I'm getting it configured, and man is it loud. I doubt it needs all that airflow :-) Speedfan does nothing :-( Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-61

wide spread Vipre issue?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Fronk
At my main gig, and one of my side jobs, Vipre has started popping an alert from Active Protection that it has found an issue and must reboot the computer. The history shows no threats found. I have already sent an email to Sunbelt support. Anyone else seeing this? ~ Finally, powerful endpoin

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Pete Howard
A necro post ? From: Rod Trent To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 11:38:40 AM Subject: RE: OT: MP3 players! Sounds like a discussion that could have been had 5 or 6 years ago. Is this an effect of the Haldron Collider coming online?

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
I do not experience that. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download And if you are downloading from Microsoft on Win7 I have found that even though the file i

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Hmm... I've done this successfully... Any folder redirection GPO's in place? -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 download So..I download a file to C:\ from the Interweb...yet going to C

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Mbruyere
Hi, Maybe a shot in the dark, but did you check the settings to show all files and hide known extension + hide protected OS files? From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: December-15-09 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download 99.9% of the time, I down

Re: Is IFMEMBER still OK to use on a modern network?

2009-12-15 Thread Don Kuhlman
Anyone got a good Group Policy Preference tutorial site on how to do this? I'm using logon scripts to map drives and it's not reliable. I'm using the user's profile to map their home drive but also need to set up Shared drives based on their site. Thanks Don K   _

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread David Lum
Ohh good call. Albeit, negative. Can I send binaries (screenshot) to the list? From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download Can you see it from an elevated command prompt? From: Da

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Don Guyer
99.9% of the time, I download right to the desktop and it appears right after the d/l is finished. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxro

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Richard Stovall
Can you see it from an elevated command prompt? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download Yup (even checked). When I used “Save target as..” I specified C:\ (because I hate navigating down the

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread David Lum
Yup (even checked). When I used "Save target as.." I specified C:\ (because I hate navigating down the tree.. Dave From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download Sure it's not in C:\Users\userna

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Terry Dickson
And if you are downloading from Microsoft on Win7 I have found that even though the file is there, it does not fully appear until you log off and back on. So far that is only for the Microsoft downloads with the download manager though. -Original Message- From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu.

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Carl Houseman
If you tried to download to C:\ from a protected mode IE7/8 on Vista/Win7, it wouldn't let you do that. Carl From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win7 download Sure it's not in C:\Users\usern

RE: Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread Don Guyer
Sure it's not in C:\Users\username\Downloads? Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From:

Win7 download

2009-12-15 Thread David Lum
So..I download a file to C:\ from the Interweb...yet going to C:\ I don't see it, but in IE8 if I go to re-download it shows it therethere must be some caching with IE8 right? How do I get it to actually drop the file? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.

RE: Win 7 Stealing Focus

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Fronk
Didn't see anything about focus stealing in that From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:tlemmik...@all-mode.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Stealing Focus Try this http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-w

RE: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Trent
Sounds like a discussion that could have been had 5 or 6 years ago. Is this an effect of the Haldron Collider coming online? From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MP3 players! biggest benefits t

RE: Win 7 Stealing Focus

2009-12-15 Thread Todd Lemmiksoo
Try this http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for -windows-7-vista Todd From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Erik Goldoff
biggest benefits to *me* of MP3 players HIGHLY portable compared to CD player and CDs More fault tolerant, MP3 players do NOT skip when bumped or played on/near vibrating surfaces High capacity for music without interruption of changing discs On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM, wrote: > > Thanks!

RE: Win 7 Stealing Focus

2009-12-15 Thread RichardMcClary
WAY back before WinXP, there was a collection from MS called "Power Toys". They had one which would keep the focus on whatever window the mouse happened to be in. (It would also shift focus to whatever window the cursor was moved to - intentional or not.) I know they updated "TweekUI" and a c

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread RichardMcClary
Thanks! I already have an assortment (ie, a very nice HD radio with an input, a wireless "sender" with a couple of wireless speakers, etc). I just tend to find myself playing the original CDs instead. I can understand the advantages of MP3 players (ie, many CDs, ability to mix from numerous

RE: Win 7 Stealing Focus

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Fronk
If you find out, please post. None of the 'normal' hacks work. From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win 7 Stealing Focus Anyone know how to keep Windows7 from stealing window focus? For example if I am

Re: Hyena

2009-12-15 Thread mqcarp
Whoah Mark good catch . That is definitely worth knowing prior to purchase. dameware is about $100 higher per license than Hyena and I can not see anything off hand that makes it any better. Both offer pretty much the same feature set. Anyone have a comment on that or what may set them apart? On F

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Erik Goldoff
There are a couple good alternatives for ear-whatevers in battery powered portable speakers. Email me offline and when I get home I can send you a link or two. GF gave me one as a birthday present and it works pretty well On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, wrote: > > Agreed! However, the batter

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread RichardMcClary
Agreed! However, the battery cover does not like to stay on anymore. There is a silicone "sleeve" that came with it I now use to keep from losing the cover. As to replacing this Creative device, again, I don't like ear (whatevers). I especially don't like the cord snagging on seemingly smooth

RE: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Trent
The HD is just the latest. Has the new interface. Extra to watch video? You can push your DVDs to your Zune. -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MP3 players! An HD .mp3

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Erik Goldoff
Let me guess, maybe a Creative Nuvo ? I've got one that sounds like what you describe, and the AAA battery is a BIG plus as they're available anywhere . I use my Creative MP3 player to feed the aux port on the stereo on my motocycle ( Royal Star Venture ) and if I'm on an extended trip I don't wo

RE: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread N Parr
double ditto From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MP3 players! Ditto, I've got 2 SAN Disk MP3 players and both are great. One was bought new at Best Buy, the o

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread RichardMcClary
I have no idea what mine is (I almost never use it), but it is a solid state Creative of some sort. 1 Gb, USB, generic as can be, and it takes one AAA battery. It's only slightly larger than a "jump drive". The user interface stinks, and most folks want more than 1 Gb anymore. There was once

Re: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Peter van Houten
An HD .mp3 player! Ha ha ha. Just the job. I want to listen to music while I am busy with other distractions and now I must pay extra to watch video (in 720p to boot). Rather, when you are next in the market for a new phone, simply buy a Sony-Ericsson "W' (for Walkman) series phone. Great audio.

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Ditto, I've got 2 SAN Disk MP3 players and both are great. One was bought new at Best Buy, the other was a refurbished one bought from woot.com. I've got another MP3 player that was the first one I ever had, it's a 512MB (lol), Creative Nomad, and it still works. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:13 AM,

RE: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread John Aldrich
Formatting FAT32. That's the only option I have. L John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MP3 players! Humm. I've owned 3 and never had to reformat any of them. When you re-

RE: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Trent
Zune HD. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MP3 players! Sorry about this rant, but I'm frustrated! I can't seem to keep an MP3 player that works for any amount of time! I keep killing th

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread asbzone
I have had no issues with SAN Disk MP3/4 players of any sort. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "John Aldrich" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:52:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MP3 players! Sorry about this rant, but I'm frustrated! I can't seem t

Re: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew Levicki
Hi Glen, I won a Creative Zen Vision M 30GBabout 5 years ago and have never had any problems with it at all. There's plenty of room to put my favourite music on and I can always swap music to and from an external hard drive. The Windows driver supp

RE: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Blackstone
iPod? Zune? From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MP3 players! Sorry about this rant, but I'm frustrated! I can't seem to keep an MP3 player that works for any amount of time! I keep killing

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Harris
Since I am using a 5+ year old phone nothing. LOL Jon On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:59 AM, David Lum wrote: > What else would you ever use a call phone for other than to keep track of > time? I think 90% of the time that’s all I use mine for. J > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.c

RE: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Glen Johnson
Humm. I've owned 3 and never had to reformat any of them. When you re-format, are you formatting NTFS or FAT. I'm thinking there may be an issued with 2gig and FAT. Also, are you using the computer to reformat or a menu/utility on the device? Might be an issue. I think you've just proven the

RE: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread David Lum
What else would you ever use a call phone for other than to keep track of time? I think 90% of the time that's all I use mine for. :) From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MP3 players! Sorry no help but

Re: OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Harris
Sorry no help but you sound like me but replace MP3 player with wrist watch. I ended up just using my cell phone to keep track of time. Jon On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > Sorry about this rant, but I’m frustrated! I can’t seem to keep an MP3 > player that works for any

OT: MP3 players!

2009-12-15 Thread John Aldrich
Sorry about this rant, but I'm frustrated! I can't seem to keep an MP3 player that works for any amount of time! I keep killing them! I just bought a new touch-screen MP3 player off eBay and it arrived last week. Today, I went to add some songs to it, and it wouldn't finish "booting" up. My last on