RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

2009-07-17 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Combat Medic.. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Military Intelligence John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl

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2009-07-15 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Hot water heater? -sc From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Frozen Tundra. From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4

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2009-07-15 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Well that's subjective... From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? Objective opinion - Original Message - From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron)<mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com> To

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2009-07-15 Thread Orland, Kathleen
Objective opinion - Original Message - From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Frozen Tundra. From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15

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2009-07-15 Thread Richard Stovall
Grammatical error. From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Frozen Tundra. From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:42 PM To

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2009-07-15 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
Frozen Tundra. From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? BES server - Original Message - From: John Cook <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>

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2009-07-15 Thread David Lum
RPM's From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? BES server - Original Message - From: John Cook<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org> To: NT System Admin Issues<mai

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2009-07-15 Thread Orland, Kathleen
BES server - Original Message - From: John Cook To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Military Intelligence John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave

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2009-07-15 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
"our SANS" (in reference to a storage area network) From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Military Intelligence John W. Coo

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2009-07-15 Thread John Cook
: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? This page left intentionally blank -sc From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? US Senate Ethics

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2009-07-15 Thread Steven M. Caesare
This page left intentionally blank -sc From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? US Senate Ethics Committee... From: Andy Shook

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2009-07-15 Thread Maglinger, Paul
US Senate Ethics Committee... From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Original copy. Shook From: Gary Whitten [mailto:li

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2009-07-15 Thread Andy Shook
Original copy. Shook From: Gary Whitten [mailto:li...@undiscoveredworlds.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? PIN number From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15

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2009-07-15 Thread David Lum
: Apple vs Microsoft? I've been on both ends of the spectrum, Desktop Support now SE. I can understand the view from their side when an end-user is breathing down their neck so much that they get tunnel-vision and only care about fixing the immediate issue the fastest way possible so the end-use

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2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Link
an Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:55 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Apple vs Microsoft? > > > > A bench tech does not a network guru make. > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com

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2009-07-15 Thread Don Guyer
nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? +1!! The mindset is COMPLETELY different. Desktop Support: Make it work! Reg hack, add-in, whatever, just make it run. Systems Engineer: Make everything consistent so it *ALL* works wi

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2009-07-15 Thread Matthew W. Ross
District - Original Message - From: Shawn [mailto:sh...@loprestohome.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:01:17 -0700 Subject: Apple vs Microsoft? > Does anyone here have any experience, good or bad, regarding the Appl

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2009-07-15 Thread David Lum
8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? A bench tech does not a network guru make. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com<mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com>> wrote: I used to work for a consulting firm that actually had both MS and Apple tec

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2009-07-15 Thread Richard Stovall
Sweet! I hadn't heard that one. Off to Wikipedia to update the recursive acronym page... -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? On 15 Jul 2009 at

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2009-07-15 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 15 Jul 2009 at 12:13, Richard Stovall wrote: > You must hate PHP and GNU. and Bing (Bing Is Not Google) ;-) -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2009-07-15 Thread Gary Whitten
PIN number _ From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Right up there with my personal fav NIC Card From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: July-15-09

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2009-07-15 Thread Cameron
Right up there with my personal fav NIC Card From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: July-15-09 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Agreed. I can guarantee you that you would have similar results taking any of our desktop support guys

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2009-07-15 Thread Phillip Partipilo
can only power up about 4 VM's at a time, but. -- -Original Message- From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Where does the boss get the

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2009-07-15 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
eeing that drives >> me as crazy as hearing someone say they are going to the "ATM machine". >> >> ------ >> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:55 AM >> *To:* NT System A

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2009-07-15 Thread Jeremy Anderson
: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? Thanks for the input guys. I am checking both sides of the arena to get both takes. I am very aware that Apple has their own forums. I started this discussion there, but did not think it would be fair to take

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2009-07-15 Thread Shawn LoPresto
t;> VMWare Workstation and it is hosting my dev environment: SQL server, web >>>> server, misc. development servers (W2K8, Moss2K7, SCCM, etc) and a VM of >>>> Win >>>> XP. Of course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time, but… >>>> >>

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2009-07-15 Thread Richard Stovall
You must hate PHP and GNU. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Agreed. I can guarantee you that you would have similar results taking any of our desktop support guys and

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2009-07-15 Thread James Rankin
ives me > as crazy as hearing someone say they are going to the "ATM machine". > > -- > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:55 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Apple vs

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2009-07-15 Thread Mayo, Bill
5, 2009 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft? A bench tech does not a network guru make. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: I used to work for a consulting firm that actually had both MS and Apple techs. T

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2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Link
745 with 64-bit XP running >>>> VMWare Workstation and it is hosting my dev environment: SQL server, web >>>> server, misc. development servers (W2K8, Moss2K7, SCCM, etc) and a VM of >>>> Win >>>> XP. Of course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time,

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2009-07-15 Thread Shawn LoPresto
of Win >>> XP. Of course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time, but… >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>>

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2009-07-15 Thread Jeff Brown
Za, I have a Optiplex 745 with 64-bit XP running >>> VMWare Workstation and it is hosting my dev environment: SQL server, web >>> server, misc. development servers (W2K8, Moss2K7, SCCM, etc) and a VM of Win >>> XP. Of course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time, but… >>> >>> >>> ---------

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2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Link
---------- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu ] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 AM >> To: NT System

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2009-07-15 Thread Jon Harris
> XP. Of course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time, but… >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> -Orig

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2009-07-15 Thread James Rankin
-------- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu ] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? >> >> Wher

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2009-07-15 Thread James Rankin
VM of Win XP. Of > course, I can only power up about 4 VM’s at a time, but… > > > -- > > -Original Message- > From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 AM > To:

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2009-07-15 Thread Richard Stovall
> Please tell me where I can get Windows 2008 and 150 CALs for under $1000. Ejumacational pricing perhaps? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

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2009-07-15 Thread David Lum
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? Where does the boss get the idea that a Mac environment will be a better long term move? I still manage one Xserve. Attached to it is an Xraid with 16 hard drives. Used exclusively for data storage. One 400 GB hard drive failed in l

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2009-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Vue, Za wrote: > Where does the boss get the idea that a Mac environment will be a better long > term move? Yah, I'd like to know that, too. It may even be true for certain situations, but without knowing the reasoning, it's just a wild claim. > A Dell Optiple

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2009-07-15 Thread Vue, Za
p. -Z.V. From: Shawn [sh...@loprestohome.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple vs Microsoft? Does anyone here have any experience, good or bad, regarding the Apple XSERVE being utilized to host email, data storage, open directory,

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2009-07-15 Thread Joe Tinney
ately: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-interop Good luck! -Original Message- From: Shawn [mailto:sh...@loprestohome.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple vs Microsoft? Does anyone here have any experience, good or bad, regardin

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2009-07-15 Thread Mayo, Bill
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft? My experience with XServers is several years out of date, but the last time I got involved in a project using them, the directory was buggy, pr

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2009-07-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
: Apple vs Microsoft? Does anyone here have any experience, good or bad, regarding the Apple XSERVE being utilized to host email, data storage, open directory, etc as an equivalent replacement for Microsoft Server? We are currently running SBS 2003 and have 40 users, but will soon be upping that

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2009-07-14 Thread Shawn
Does anyone here have any experience, good or bad, regarding the Apple XSERVE being utilized to host email, data storage, open directory, etc as an equivalent replacement for Microsoft Server? We are currently running SBS 2003 and have 40 users, but will soon be upping that number to 150. My bos