RE: Vista SP1 & WSUS (WAS - RE: FYI (vLite))

2008-02-06 Thread Eric E Eskam
e U.S. Government "The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange protein; it rejects it." - P. B. Medawar From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 02/01/2008 08:40 PM Subject: RE: Vista SP

RE: Vista SP1 & WSUS (WAS - RE: FYI (vLite))

2008-02-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vista SP1 & WSUS (WAS - RE: FYI (vLite)) http://www.ditii.com/2008/01/28/wsus-windows-server-2003-fix-for-microsoft-w indows-vista-sp1-download/ On this - does anyone know if distributing SP1 via WSUS will behave the same way as going via MU route, i.e. the

Vista SP1 & WSUS (WAS - RE: FYI (vLite))

2008-02-01 Thread Amer Karim
: FYI (vLite) Ok. Well, let´s wait and see how big will SP3 be... : ) - Original Message - From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) Sp1 is basically Vista r2 - it

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
Ok. Well, let´s wait and see how big will SP3 be... : ) - Original Message - From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) Sp1 is basically Vista r2 - it brings V

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
ry 01, 2008 4:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) Okay, I can search for some minutes, or go to that link. But it doesn´t change the strangeness of the fact that MS changed something that worked quite well, and was good for many administrators. And if SP1 cannot be integrated

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
the feature, isn´t it? - Original Message - From: "Mike Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) It's not hard to find this information. Normally I would reply with a link but

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Mike Gill
sgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:38 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) > > Let´s wait to see what will be the MS-recommended way for it ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:29 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) > > > > We did it for years before slipstreaming. I'm sure they'll catch-up - > > but I'm surprised at this obvious step ba

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
"NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) We did it for years before slipstreaming. I'm sure they'll catch-up - but I'm surprised at this obvious step backward. On Feb 1, 2008 10:37 AM, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Devin Meade
m not at all surprised. > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:29 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) > > We did it for years before slipstreaming. I'm sure they'll catc

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
I'm not. Given the half baked products that came out of MS in late 2006 / early 2007, I'm not at all surprised. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite)

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
uot;NT System Admin Issues" > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:58 AM > Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) > > > After Mike mentioned that, I decided to go look it up - from what I can > gather, it's true: > > http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/windows-

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Christopher Nicholson
inary, and those who don't" -Original Message- From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) Let´s wait to see what will be the MS-recommended way for it, but it doesn´t s

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-02-01 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) After Mike mentioned that, I decided to go look it up - from what I can gather, it's true: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/win

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Amer Karim
NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) Seriously? I hadn't heard that it couldn't be slipstreamed. Whose ba$$ackwards idea was that? Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. -Original M

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Sam Cayze
Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) Same way they've distributed XP with service packs integrated. Same way they've distributed Windows Server 2003 with service packs integrated. Not really a big deal. They just drop them into the retail c

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Ken Schaefer
Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) So... How are they going to distribute these so called Vista DVDs with SPs intergrated? Sounds like they are asking for another licensing/piracy mess to me. -Origin

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Michael B. Smith
ly): http://www.joejoe.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=13943 Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Michael B. Smith
change MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) So... How are they going to distribute these so called Vista DVDs with SPs intergrated? S

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Sam Cayze
Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) I can imagine that it's a bit more complex than slipstreaming/integrating XP, due to having multiple images on a single DVD. But there must be some way to do it. I can't imagine that Microsoft would drop such a feature. Hence my scepticism. But, we've all

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Ken Schaefer
So, if someone has a link to some Microsoft documentation on what we're supposed to do, I'm very interested! Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) S

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Mark Boersma
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) > You have heard that

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Ken Schaefer
-Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) > You have heard that SP1 cannot be slipstreamed right? You will need to wait > (which may not take long) for official SP1 inte

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
If it cannot be slipstreamed, one more negative point to Vista. - Original Message - From: "Sam Cayze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) >You have heard that SP1 cannot be

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Sam Cayze
AIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) You have heard that SP1 cannot be slipstreamed right? You will need to wait (which may not take long) for official SP1 integrated media from MS. Aside from that, the link on the vLite site

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Gill
want their computer to actually work should not bother. -- Mike Gill > -Original Message- > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:54 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) > > Thanks, I guess I could

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Sam Cayze
a yet. Probably since there is not an official service pack released for vista yet.) -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) > Link? I'm curious http://www.vlite.n

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Andy Ognenoff
> Link? I'm curious http://www.vlite.net/ And MS’s response to vLite – to be expected though: "Microsoft doesn't recommend creating Vista 'Lite'" http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9861474-56.html  - Andy O. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Sam Cayze
Link? I'm curious From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) The front page of their site has some really depressing comments to make about those who would li

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Gill
The front page of their site has some really depressing comments to make about those who would like to install a service pack though. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 30, 2008 7:37 PM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um - so what happens when you upgrade a Windows NT box to Windows 2000 to > Windows 2003? It'll still be using winnt. Yah, which might make things interesting. Indeed, I recall seeing at least one MSKB article about just that.

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Ken Schaefer
ck. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 4:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) On Jan 30, 2008 11:41 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's been possible all along, it&#

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 29 Jan 2008 at 20:48, Sam Cayze wrote: > Similar to nLite for XP and 2003. I usethis along with an answer > file cause it allows me to install a base OS in less than 10 minutes. Care to share your answer file? -- Angus Scott-Fleming http://www.geoapps.com/ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation An

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 30, 2008 12:16 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, it's sysprep. There are no environment variables available when > preparing the system for imaging, unless you generate a boot device with the > variables you define. I would argue that they *are* there when SYSPREP itself run

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Rod Trent
ystem Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite) On Jan 30, 2008 11:41 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's been possible all along, it's just a lot of things (including >> Microsoft's own stuff) assume C:\WINDOWS or C: and won't work if you >>

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 30, 2008 11:41 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's been possible all along, it's just a lot of things (including >> Microsoft's own stuff) assume C:\WINDOWS or C: and won't work if you >> change things. > > That's not true. It is true. (I can make empty statements, too.)

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Sam Cayze
es Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) That's not true. The OS uses a %windir% variable that that points to where the OS files are no matter what directory it is in. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Iss

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Rod Trent
That's not true. The OS uses a %windir% variable that that points to where the OS files are no matter what directory it is in. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FYI (vLite

Re: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Jan 29, 2008 11:37 PM, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but can u install vista to a place other than c:\windows i just want to > know if you can... It's been possible all along, it's just a lot of things (including Microsoft's own stuff) assume C:\WINDOWS or C: and won't work if

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Ross
but can u install vista to a place other than c:\windows i just want to know if you can... _ From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) I've used nLite as well and it's the sa

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-29 Thread Amer Karim
I've used nLite as well and it's the same guy who developed both. Regards, Amer Karim Nautilis Information Systems From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29-Jan-08 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FYI (vLite) Similar to nLite for XP and 2003.

RE: FYI (vLite)

2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
Similar to nLite for XP and 2003. I use this along with an answer file cause it allows me to install a base OS in less than 10 minutes. I wonder if this is made by the same guys -Sam From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29,