Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-10 Thread Rene de Haas
+1 also what does the extended warranty imply. Server up and running in 4 hours? Besided hardware RAID, also as others mentioned look into virtualization. Makes recovering much easier/faster if there is a problem. Rene On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-10 Thread Steven Peck
SO Tell them it's like insurance. How much will they pay to mitigate potential downtime to the business? Then ask how much cost it will incur should the business suffer a 72 hour outage. Then ask them if that would be cheap to make sure it was on the latest supported offering from your

OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Jeremy Anderson
I am not even sure what the subject of this should be. I have a server, it's about 3 years old, the warranty expires in 15 days. It runs a %mission critical App%. This App is going to be replaced with %new mission critical app%. This server meets the hardware requirements for %new app% just

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Michael B. Smith
with nary a problem. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I am not even sure what the subject

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim
: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I am not even sure what the subject of this should be. I have a server, it's about 3 years old, the warranty expires in 15 days. It runs a %mission critical App%. This App is going to be replaced

Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
It really depends, we have mission critical apps running on servers that are 4+ years old. Extended service contracts have been purchased from mfg (HP) for those. FWIW, I've had HP/Compaq servers that have run until we shut them down for over 10 years with little more than a power supply being

Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Jon Harris
. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I am not even sure what the subject

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Charlie Kaiser
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I am not even sure what the subject of this should be. I have a server, it's about 3 years old, the warranty expires in 15 days. It runs a %mission critical App%. This App is going to be replaced with %new mission critical

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Jeremy Anderson
[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I almost agree with Michael but he would have more time on servers than me, I think. That said I have had to keep old servers up and working until they die and as long

Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Erik Goldoff
Does this server meet the hardware requirements for Windows Server 2008r2 ? If you're going to keep it at least three more years, you want to be running an OS that's still properly supported for your mission critical application. Also, if the existing hard drives have been spinning constantly for

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim
, 2010 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? 3. How much longer will the server need to be utilized? Another 3 years? Will it still be viable for that time? Or will patches/firmware/drivers become unavailable/outdated? How much harder will it be to replace the server

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread John Aldrich
to keep spinning. My 2ยข worth. :-) Thanks, John Aldrich IT Manager, Blueridge Carpet 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? I am not even sure what

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Cameron Cooper
: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? It really depends, we have mission critical apps running

Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread Kurt Buff
I don't necessarily agree that this is a bad idea. If you extend the warranty, ensuring that the response time is what you need, and potentially replace the spinning bits (drives, fans, etc.), I think you should be fine. However, this assumes that the server is redundant in the usual ways:

RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?

2010-02-09 Thread David Lum
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ? Does this server meet the hardware requirements for Windows Server 2008r2 ? If you're going to keep it at least three more years, you want to be running an OS that's still properly supported for your mission critical