Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-18 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Jul 2009 at 11:00, Sam Cayze wrote: > > Another reason I like it: > http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=168486&page=1&zoomIdx=1 > It's even cheaper than this on my corporate lines. (You can put them on > $60/Month plans) I would add in whatever the monthly insurance cost is. Snce the Pre cost

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-17 Thread David Lum
+1 I was thinking the same thing... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? They improved the problems? Sounds good to me! On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Sam Cayze

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-17 Thread Jonathan Link
edone their entire backend billing system which really improved > problems. > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:49 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for sucker

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-17 Thread Sam Cayze
Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Their the only G4 network, right? I mean, you'd expect that to cost more - not less! And it surprises me how everyone in the wireless industry

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2009-07-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
gt; > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message----- >> > From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:24 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? >

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-17 Thread Jonathan Link
rom: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:24 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > > > On 15 Jul 2009 at 15:02, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: > > > >> On 15 Jul

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
them on > $60/Month plans) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:24 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > On 15 Jul 2009 at 15:02, Angus Sco

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 16 Jul 2009 at 9:35, Sam Cayze wrote: > HotSync on the way: > http://www.precentral.net/palm-os-hotsync-coming-classic "MotionApps doesn´t have an ETA for the HotSync capability, but it will be added to a future update of Classic at no cost to current owners. Now, this will requ

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 15 Jul 2009 at 15:02, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: > On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Sam Cayze wrote: > > > Yes it can, there is an emulator. > > However, the emulator HAS NO HOTSYNC so you can't sync your 'Classic' app > with your desktop. Makes it useless to me. NOTE: news today that this may

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Scott
>>> Isn't this the list where people b*tch about MS "hampering" Windows >>> with backwards compatibility??!? >> >> People b*tch about everything on this list. ;-) > > Stop b*tching about my posting. Stop b*tching about all the b*tching! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T

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2009-07-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
ople b*tch about MS "hampering" Windows with > backwards compatibility??!? > > Oh. Nevermind. > > -sc > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:07 PM >> To: NT System Adm

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Stop b*tching about my posting. -sc > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Stev

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > Isn't this the list where people b*tch about MS "hampering" Windows with > backwards compatibility??!? People b*tch about everything on this list. ;-) IMO: Microsoft is consistently inconsistent when it comes to backwards compatibi

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Issues > Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Micheal Espinola > Jr wrote: > > There are lots of people that need local hotsync capabilities.  LOTS. > > Just as an example, I have a Palm Centro. I use Outlook at work, > L

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > There are lots of people that need local hotsync capabilities.  LOTS. Just as an example, I have a Palm Centro. I use Outlook at work, Linux at home, and DateBk on the handheld. They're all in sync, using the HotSync protocol. Pal

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
u need to sync, you can use > SyncBack with a serial number recognition to sync when mounted. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:02 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Pal

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Sam Cayze
oyed to my employees. (All Treo 755p users right now). -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? So, given all the feedback about palm pre,

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2009-07-16 Thread Oliver Marshall
So, given all the feedback about palm pre, would you all recommend one ? -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: 16 July 2009 15:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? HotSync on the way: http://www.precentral.net

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2009-07-16 Thread Jacob
-Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:jschwa...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Wireless - To be without a physical, wired connection. ;-) A standalone install of Outlook still has to

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Sam Cayze
HotSync on the way: http://www.precentral.net/palm-os-hotsync-coming-classic -Original Message- From: Vincent Medina [mailto:vmed...@apcn.net] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Pre WebOS v1 is still better

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2009-07-16 Thread Vincent Medina
Pre WebOS v1 is still better than iphone v3.. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Remember the iPhone didn't have apps for over a year...

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2009-07-16 Thread Jonathan Link
them for a Pre. ;) > > -Original Message- > From: Vincent Medina [mailto:vmed...@apcn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:43 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > It does sync with third party apps via wifi and soon Bluetooth. The

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-16 Thread Mayo, Bill
PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? It does sync with third party apps via wifi and soon Bluetooth. The phone is the best phone I ever owned and I have owned them all.. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
+1 -Original Message- From: Vincent Medina [mailto:vmed...@apcn.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Full day no problem on my pre. You have to turn off the gmail update every 5 min and set it to as it

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Sam Cayze wrote: > Yes it can, there is an emulator. However, the emulator HAS NO HOTSYNC so you can't sync your '

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
ssues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:07, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Great. thanks Palm. Or have I missed something very obvious? No, you didn't miss anything. Palm Pre is cloud based, not tied to your desktop. Chapura's app is require

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
Remember the iPhone didn't have apps for over a year... The pre already has 30 -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? But those are the mos

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
There are ways to connect it to desktop only Outlook. From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? That's assuming that every Pre us

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Vincent Medina wrote: > Chapura Syncs (Business App) currently FREE. Somehow, I doubt it will work so well on my Linux box. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Vincent Medina wrote: > 3rd party app works fine... Someone reported the emulator can't hotsync. That doesn't sound "fine" to me. In fact, it sounds more like "fundamentally useless". -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
Chapura Syncs (Business App) currently FREE. -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Sam Cayze wrote: > Yes it

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2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
I use splashid and Where apps daily and love them... -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? But those are the most fun. (I'll admit I instal

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
I can use Chapura to sync Outlook, works like a champ. From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? That's assuming that every Pre user is going to connect to a corp

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Good list, I agree with all those. There is a big update coming soon that addresses the Exchange items (Wipe

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2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
3rd party app works fine... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Along with

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2009-07-15 Thread Vincent Medina
: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading about, I just found out some interesting details about the Pre: As a previous Palm user of various models over the years, I was really surprised to find out that it doesn't come with an install

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Link
Pre, now with no iTunes synching, too. http://gizmodo.com/5315386/confirmed-itunes-821-breaks-pre-syncing On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: > On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Sam Cayze wrote: > > > Yes it can, there is an emulator. > > However, the emulator HAS NO HOTSYNC so y

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Sam Cayze wrote: > Yes it can, there is an emulator. However, the emulator HAS NO HOTSYNC so you can't sync your 'Classic' app with your desktop. Makes it useless to me. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +-

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 15 Jul 2009 at 14:07, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Great. thanks Palm. Or have I missed something very obvious? No, you didn't miss anything. Palm Pre is cloud based, not tied to your desktop. Chapura's app is required for business use. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-

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2009-07-15 Thread Phillip Partipilo
t: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? App Catalogue is limited at this point but once the apps start growing it will be nice. Hopefully they will limit the kiddie apps so there aren't 600 fart simulators like the iPhone. THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND P

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2009-07-15 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
riginal Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading > about, I j

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2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
al Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:jschwa...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Wireless - To be without a physical, wired connection. ;-) A standalone install of Outlook still has to connect to some em

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2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
Yes it can, there is an emulator. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Along w

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2009-07-15 Thread Schwartz, Jim
ut, speedy. Calendar is pretty good so far. It may change as more meetings come in. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Along with the ph

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading > about, I just found out some interesting details about the Pre:  As a > previous Palm user of various models over the years, I was really > surprised to find out that it

Re: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
t; From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading about, > I just found out some int

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2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Link
to:michealespin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? > > Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading about, > I just found out some interesting details about the Pre: As

RE: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Sam Cayze
You've missed a lot. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Palm Pre: The phone for suckers? Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading abo

Palm Pre: The phone for suckers?

2009-07-15 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Along with the physical build quality issues I have been reading about, I just found out some interesting details about the Pre: As a previous Palm user of various models over the years, I was really surprised to find out that it doesn't come with an installation CD! i.e. no HotSync software or Pa