RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-30 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
config in order to get it to show up correctly (can't set it up ahead of time). -Bonnie -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server On Fri, Jun

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-27 Thread Phil Brutsche
v4.7 and v4.8 were what was giving us problems. I've not tried anything newer. Michael B. Smith wrote: Interesting. I've got literally thousands of HP printers running the UPD (v5). -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul
... From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Yes, It is the printer vender, BUT this business is like the video that was going around where the cowboys were herding cats

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread David Lum
one. Dave -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server I find that Microsoft's PS and PCL drivers *are* generic, Microsoft simply ships printer

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
. Dave -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server I find that Microsoft's PS and PCL drivers *are* generic, Microsoft simply ships printer

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul
+1 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Didn't you know? The LaserJet 4 is the most stable print driver ever produced! Well, maybe

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Vicky Spelshausvicky.spelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Coincidentally it (the LJ4) is the last stable printer HP produced as well. I've still got a couple of these in use.  The HP printers purchased since then have been replaced.  It's sad what happened to that

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
printer wouldn't.  In my experience it's almost as versatile as the generic/text only one. Dave -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Cameron Cooper
[mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Vicky Spelshausvicky.spelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Coincidentally it (the LJ4) is the last stable printer HP produced

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Gene Giannamore
- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Didn't you know? The LaserJet 4 is the most stable print driver ever produced! Well, maybe not, but it's amazing to me how many times

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gene Giannamoregene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote: What about the HP UPD? Has that worked for anyone? We tried it. It's as slow and bloated as their regular drivers. Over-complicated for network configuration. Had trouble turning off the slice of

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Phil Brutsche
Tried it. Don't recommend it unless you enjoy seeing the print spooler crash on a regular basis. The best universal drivers are the ones Microsoft ships. Gene Giannamore wrote: What about the HP UPD? Has that worked for anyone? -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Interesting. I've got literally thousands of HP printers running the UPD (v5). From: Phil Brutsche [p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Tried

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Ens
Hi Phil I run my TS08 in a Hyper V virtual machine. I've got Canons, Ricohs, Pannys, Brothers and HP units. They all work fine (of couse you need to install the printer on the server). I love the published apps, the remote app web page, etc. No issues here. Works great for me. Steve On Thu,

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Nordlander
heh was planning on migrating my 03 citrix to windows 08 with latest version of XenApp (or whatever it is called now; previously metaframe/presentation). maybe 2008 R2 will be better for us? :) -Ben On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Phil Thompson ph...@wpiinc.com wrote: Just wonder others

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Phil Thompson
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server heh was planning on migrating my 03 citrix to windows 08 with latest version of XenApp (or whatever it is called now; previously metaframe/presentation). maybe 2008 R2 will be better for us? :) -Ben On Thu, Jun 25, 2009

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
, June 25, 2009 4:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server heh was planning on migrating my 03 citrix to windows 08 with latest version of XenApp (or whatever it is called now; previously metaframe/presentation). maybe 2008 R2 will be better

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Don't hold back, Phil. Tell us what you really think. :-) Did it do this from the get-go or after you loaded up the printer drivers? I've had printer drivers cause problems on my '03 server. I've never seen them lock up the server though. As long as you have the '03 to fall back on, why not

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Miller
How are you printing? Do your users have shared printers on their desktops, direct IP on desktop, or do they select shared/direct printers installed on the terminal server? If you have Desktop Experience (or something like that) installed, the client will use Easy Print where possible. There

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Phil Thompsonph...@wpiinc.com wrote: Nothing but trouble, especially with HP printers shutting down the spooler. Are you using HP's printer drivers? HP's printer drivers have been getting steadily worse for the past few years. Slow, bloated,

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread David Lum
: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Phil Thompsonph...@wpiinc.com wrote: Nothing but trouble, especially with HP printers shutting down the spooler. Are you using HP's printer drivers

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Desmond
- http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server It is very hard to narrow down

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Phil Thompson
not the product. Thanks for info I will keep trudging along. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Spooler crashes are unlikely to be Microsoft’s fault

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Phil Thompsonph...@wpiinc.com wrote: Everyone is claiming it is the other guy. The Open Source fan in me is grinning. I thought Windows was better because you had a company standing by the product. ;-) I spend 90% of my time coming up with work arounds.

RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Desmond
/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server Yes, It is the printer vender, BUT this business is like

Re: Bleep'n window server 2008 terminal server

2009-06-25 Thread Phil Brutsche
I find that Microsoft's PS and PCL drivers *are* generic, Microsoft simply ships printer definitions that specifies printer-specific parameters such as the printer's printable area. At my employer Microsoft's HP LaserJet 4 PS driver works marvelously with most of what we have on hand ;) Ben