Running a Verizon Droid X, I can't find any trace of CarrierIQ -- and this
is the 2nd time I've searched for it. Good news, I reckon...But I agree
with your assessment. What can be misused, assuredly will be.
David
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
wrote:
> Google, What Happened
Evidently it can hide itself.
http://androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/
ironic link as the source link is busted
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GIxQjEZuxRwJ:androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct
Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not. Hope they're right, 'cuz
I sure can't find it (Goodthing™).
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Steven Peck wrote:
> Evidently it can hide itself.
>
>
> http://androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/
> ironic link as
They probably roll their own.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David wrote:
> Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not. Hope they're right,
> 'cuz I sure can't find it (Goodthing™).
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Steven Peck wrote:
>
>> Evidently it can hide itself.
>>
>>
>
The Wired article lists a few ways to posibly see it.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:
> They probably roll their own.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David wrote:
>
>> Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not. Hope they're right,
>> 'cuz I sure can't find it
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
wrote:
> Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
> This particular software is installed on 142 million handsets, including
> modern BlackBerry and Nokia phones ...
I haven't been paying too much attention to this, but the very fact
that it gets in
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David wrote:
> Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not.
Verizon has issued a statement saying that they're not using
CarrerIQ. But others have found CarrierIQ reporting to servers with
"vzw" in their names. Given Verizon's history, I would expect Veri
This.
--
Mike Gill
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
Meanwhile, I have to wonder why you're so determined to b
I dont see how this is a Google failure. Its installed and tracked by the
carrier. Its not inherent in any OS - its an installed component found in
*many* mobile devices across just about all modern platforms.
Or am I mistaken?
--
Espi
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
wrote:
Ignorantly asks Lie about it? They have problems with the truth ?
Thanks,
Mathew
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On W
, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David wrote:
> Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not.
Verizon has issued a statement saying that they're not using CarrerIQ. But
others have found CarrierIQ reporting to servers with "vzw&q
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM, David Lum wrote:
> And then, this:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57334575-17/carrier-iq-tracking-iphone-customers-too-hacker-says/?tag=mncol;posts
Wow, Google even put CarrierIQ on the iPhone. That's amazing.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
Must be an evil twin out there, somewhere...
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM, David Lum wrote:
> > And then, this:
> >
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57334575-17/carrier-iq-tracking-iphone-customers-too-hacker-says/?tag=mncol;posts
>
>
LOL. Google's powers are immense! Next up: Ruin Netflix. Oops already done.
Hack Sony. Oops also already done...
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happen
too much if that is Google's fault or the carrier's.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:3
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM, David Lum wrote:
> > And then, this:
> >
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57334575-17/carrier-i
: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
And then, this:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57334575-17/carrier-iq-tracking-iphone-customers-too-hacker-says/?tag=mncol;posts
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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No smartphone here. That that Big Brother!
-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
Makes me extra glad to ha
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle
wrote:
> Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone.
Do we have any reason to believe the carriers aren't tracking that
somehow, too?
Some people said, "Glad I'm on Verizon!". Then the apparent Verizon
reporting was discovered.
Other people
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> There appears to be a trend here.
To make my point explict: People patting themselves on the back
about how this clearly proves their favorite platform is the One True
Cell Phone are *missing the point*.
The problem here is: Cell phone carr
Indeed...
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle
> wrote:
> > Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone.
>
> Do we have any
"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own."
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> > There appears to be a trend here.
>
> To make my point explict: People patting themselves on the back
> about how this clearly proves
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
:)
John
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at
Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> There appears to be a trend here.
To make my point explict: People pat
NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle
wrote:
> Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone.
Do we have any reason to believe the carriers aren't tracking that somehow,
too?
Some people sa
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own."
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ben Scott
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, De
Our providers as well as law enforcement want this. The basic performance
metrics I can understand - but, as with anyone with too much power: it
corrupts and it cant be trusted - which is already evident in this case.
I can appreciate the desire from law enforcement to want to get gps and/or
cell
ues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> There appears to be a trend here.
To make my point explict: People patting themselves on the back about how
this clearly proves their favorite platform is the One True Cell P
It seems no one has yet found it on either the iPhone or the Windows
phones. It has so far only been on the Android, RIM, and Nokia based
phones that have it. I believe the article says that both Apple and
Microsoft retain more control (or implies they do) of the OS post sale to
manufactures than
Okay so I had not finished all of the messages in the thread it was on the
iPhone but at least you could turn it off and you can't do that on the
others.
Jon
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
> It seems no one has yet found it on either the iPhone or the Windows
> phones. It ha
It has been found on Android, iPhone, and RIM. I dunno about Windows, but
I *really* wouldnt doubt there its on there or there is an equivalent
product.
Its pretty clear that that carriers want this functionality on smartphones.
--
Espi
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>
I dont think that's an accurate summation. As far as I know, CIQ operates
the same way on all devices. relaying full diagnostic information should
be off all all devices by default, but there are still various ways this
information can be [ab]used without the consumer's consent.
--
Espi
On
It's all over the news now. Even the Wall Street Journal had an article about
it today!
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
I dont
CNN.COM as well.
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
It's all over the news now. Even the Wall Street Journal had an article about
it today!
ssage-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle
wrote:
> Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone.
Do w
t; -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle
> wrote
True. And by that logic no phone is safe, smart or otherwise.
--
Mike Gill
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
Except for
noted :D and stored away for futre use :D
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
> But really, Windows Phone **does** rock. Just sayin’.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> John
>
> ( At which time hopefully no one will recall my curr
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Mike Gill wrote:
>> Except for two things. You'll never know if someone turns it on, and this
>> information can be raked by anyone with physical access.
>
> True. And by that logic no phone is safe, smart or otherwise.
You begin to see the problem.
-- Ben
~ F
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 07:52, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Mike Gill wrote:
>>> Except for two things. You'll never know if someone turns it on, and this
>>> information can be raked by anyone with physical access.
>>
>> True. And by that logic no phone is safe, smart or ot
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