RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-13 Thread Jim Dandy
I have an APC Symmetra. Most of its parts are redundant so, if something goes down, you should have time to replace it before the unit goes completely out. Nothing has failed so I haven't had to rely on the redundancy. The main drawback is they are EXPENSIVE. Curt > -Original Message-

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-13 Thread Jake Gardner
or me. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: UPS recommendations +1 for Tripplite SNMP setup. Have it for three client

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-12 Thread Jim Majorowicz
, February 10, 2009 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: UPS recommendations +1 - No need for redundant PSU's. Just get the best UPS you can afford or need to get. We just did this, http://www.tripplite.com/EN/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=659&EID=13791 &txtModelID=3213 plus an

Re: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Jim McAtee wrote: > So you purchase two of the same UPS, maintain them as best you can, then the > day > comes when you lose power and _one_ of them fails, what are the chances that > the other will hold up all of your servers? Well, assuming they're not overl

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Webb, Brian (Corp)
- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:jmca...@mediaodyssey.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UPS recommendations IMO, with this approach you may just be creating more opportunities for the whole system to fail rather than providing redundancy, as your recent

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Matthew Bullock
Have a look at Powerware, nice stuff. _ Matthew Bullock (805) 279-9998 mbull...@root9.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: UPS recommendations Hi all, We had

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Jake Gardner
tect settings from the UPS and initiate procedures accordingly. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:jmca...@mediaodyssey.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UPS recomme

Re: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Jim McAtee
IMO, with this approach you may just be creating more opportunities for the whole system to fail rather than providing redundancy, as your recent experience might prove. The redundant power supplies in enterprise servers are there first a foremost to protect against power supply failures. Aft

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Troy Meyer
aefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: UPS recommendations For first line UPSes, just about every enterprise I've been at seems to use APC. Probably because of the centralised monitoring tools (though I think they

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Webb, Brian (Corp)
We have APC units at our remote sites (about 140 separate locations) powering 1 server each. We have the central APC Management appliance which collects all the data from the remote UPSs. It works, but we aren't big fans of APC warranty support. When we have had problems with a UPS we call for w

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread David Lum
, February 10, 2009 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UPS recommendations On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > +1 on the APC's melting/overcharging batteries for no apparent reason. You know, in the past at other jobs, I now realize I've seen a co

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Terry Dickson
10, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UPS recommendations On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > +1 on the APC's melting/overcharging batteries for no apparent reason. You know, in the past at other jobs, I now realize I've seen a couple APC&#

Re: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > +1 on the APC's melting/overcharging batteries for no apparent reason. You know, in the past at other jobs, I now realize I've seen a couple APC's do this, too. The batteries swell and won't slide out anymore. I always figured it was some

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Andy Ognenoff
We had a 1000VA Smart UPS from APC freak out and fry a switch and the motherboard on a DL380 G4. Probably just a fluke but we replaced it with a 2200VA from Tripplite and we're happy with it so far. Dollar for dollar I think you get more bang for the buck with Tripplite too. - Andy O. >-Orig

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Jacob
We have been using APCC for years. From the small 500VA ones up to a 30KVA Silcon. No issues what so ever, with there product or their support. They even "next day air" a Silcon unit when it was DOA. Not sure how they did that since the unit is about 1500lbs... -Original Message- From:

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread RichardMcClary
. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:15 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: UPS recommendations > > > > We've got several APCs, and some Trippli

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Kennedy, Jim
t; From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:15 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: UPS recommendations > > We've got several APCs, and some Tripplites. > My complaint with the APCs is they seem to over charge their batteries. >

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Glen Johnson
We've got several APCs, and some Tripplites. My complaint with the APCs is they seem to over charge their batteries. We've replaced many batteries where they were swollen and had leaked. Maybe 3 to 4 years old and had not had more than an hour or two total battery run time. So far the Tripplites ha

RE: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Ken Schaefer
For first line UPSes, just about every enterprise I've been at seems to use APC. Probably because of the centralised monitoring tools (though I think they are pretty craptastic, but at least they exist) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: T

Re: UPS recommendations

2009-02-10 Thread Jon Harris
We ues APC as well. Only failures I have had to deal with are batteries at least 3 years old and some of the UPS's are on their 3 or 4 at this point. As for server or rack installs the smallest we use are the 3kVA's I have 2 for our servers dedicated to only deal with them. I wish I had the budge

Re: UPS recommendations

2009-02-09 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Our schools use APC. We use a mix of server systems (Linux, MacOSX and Windows), and all of them support the APC units for graceful shutdowns. Also, we have purchased our first APC Netshelter rack, which we chose as it looked extremely expandable with power and air venting modules. Unfortunate