Re: Moving TS Licensing Server

2010-12-28 Thread Kelli Sterley
When I try to deactivate my current TS License server, I get the following error, using the automatic connection. It attempts to connect to the Microsoft Clearinghouse but fails with The License Server Activtion Wizard encountered an internal error from the license server. Message Number:

Moving TS Licensing Server

2010-12-27 Thread Kelli Sterley
I need to move a current TS license server to a new server. I have found many websites that explain the move however I have not found one that tells me if it will affect my users and if I will need to do anything to the desktops that connect to the TS. I have the old TS license server still

Re: Moving TS Licensing Server

2010-12-27 Thread Tom Miller
You need to de-activate the current server then activate the new server, using the same authorization codes you used on the current server: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814593 Also don't forget to update your GPOs or whatever you do to point your terminal servers to the new server. Tom

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Dean Cunningham
Are the remote desktop cals able to be bought as user CALS or device CALS as was with the 2003 CALS? On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Buying more CALs than absolutely required is not going to be an option - the money just isn't there for it. On Fri, Feb

RE: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
I didn't see it mentioned, but don't forget you'll need to run a 2008 TS Licensing server to hand out 2008 CALs-they won't install on 2003. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Buying more CALs than absolutely required is not going

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Phil Brutsche
Yes On 2/21/2010 4:40 AM, Dean Cunningham wrote: Are the remote desktop cals able to be bought as user CALS or device CALS as was with the 2003 CALS? -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Kurt Buff
Probably user CALs, unless there's some compelling reason otherwise. I anticipate the largest set of users will be people who are using our Sonciwall SSL VPN remotely. Kurt On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 02:40, Dean Cunningham dean.cunning...@gmail.com wrote: Are the remote desktop cals able to be

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Kurt Buff
Good to know. Can the licensing server be the TS machine itself? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 05:16, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: I didn’t see it mentioned, but don’t forget you’ll need to run a 2008 TS Licensing server to hand out 2008 CALs—they won’t install on 2003

RE: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Mine is. I moved our ts licensing from an 03 to 08 to do just this. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS licensing question Good to know. Can the licensing server be the TS

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-21 Thread Kurt Buff
That's very nice. Thanks. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:20, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com wrote: Mine is. I moved our ts licensing from an 03 to 08 to do just this. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:16 AM To: NT

TS licensing question

2010-02-19 Thread Kurt Buff
All, We're currently a Win2k3 R2 shop, and I need to retire a Win2k TS server. I've gotten a quote for a new Win2k8 OS and client licenses. The specific MSFT part numbers quoted are: MBL-P73-04982 - OS Win2k8 R2 MBL-R18-02709 - User CAL MBL-6VC-01164 - Remote Desktop Services CAL These are

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
#1 - Those part numbers are specific to the reseller you're talking to. Strip off the MBL- and you will get Microsoft's SKUs. #2 - I would find a way to work the user CALs for Server 08 R2 into your overall CAL scheme. My experience is that terminal servers work fine in ESX. Kurt Buff wrote:

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-19 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:51, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: #1 - Those part numbers are specific to the reseller you're talking to. Strip off the MBL- and you will get Microsoft's SKUs. That's good to know. Thanks - I wondered why my google searches weren't working the way I

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
In other words, I would make sure you get the CALs to cover everyone in your org., rather than just those that will be using the new TS. Volume licensing covers older operating systems, so you may be over-licensed on your 2k3 R2 machines. Kurt Buff wrote: #2 - I would find a way to work the

Re: TS licensing question

2010-02-19 Thread Kurt Buff
Buying more CALs than absolutely required is not going to be an option - the money just isn't there for it. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:33, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: In other words, I would make sure you get the CALs to cover everyone in your org., rather than just those that

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Brown
] *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 4:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have 70 TS CAL's and have had trouble running short on those. Up to this point we have purchased

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Kurt Buff
in the licensing server. Hope that makes sense. Art From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all.  We

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Brown
. Art From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have 70 TS CAL's and have had

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Free, Bob
TS Licensing is not a stateful system, a license is either used or it isn't. There is no notion of concurrent licensing like Citrix -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Kurt Buff
how they are assigned other than when they are entered in the licensing server. Hope that makes sense. Art From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Free, Bob
Still won't help. TS Licensing still has no notion of concurrency. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS Licensing Oh, yah. That's correct. My bad. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 08

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Still won't help. TS Licensing still has no notion of concurrency. To amplify what Bob is saying: Every client using your server must have a CAL. CALs are *not* assigned to servers, they're assigned to clients. The client

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Brown
, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Still won't help. TS Licensing still has no notion of concurrency. To amplify what Bob is saying: Every client using your server must have a CAL. CALs are *not* assigned to servers, they're assigned to clients. The client that gets the CAL assigned to it can

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread wjh
...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com mailto:r...@pge.com wrote: Still won't help. TS Licensing still has no notion of concurrency. To amplify what Bob is saying: Every client using your server must have a CAL. CALs

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Phil Brutsche
One caveat to keep in mind is you need to be current on your SA to be able to change from device to user CALs (or vice versa). wjh wrote: I have successfully (after hours of being bounced around on the phone) successfully gotten CALs transferred from device to user CALs. It was frustrating

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:50, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Still won't help. TS Licensing still has no notion of concurrency.  To amplify what Bob is saying:  Every client using your server must have a CAL.  CALs

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Phil Brutsche
I think you meant to say As long as you have 2000 Pro or XP Pro, no separate TS license needed. If you have a home-user Windows OS (Win9x, XP Home, Vista Home, Win7 Home), you need TS CALs. If you have a non-Windows OS (Mac OS X or *NIX through any of the really sucky open source RDP clients),

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Free, Bob
for the existence of a Licensing Service and that's it. At that point they (per-user) are not truly accounted for. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS Licensing On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Kurt Buff
We don't do no home at work. That is of course as opposed to work at home... Yes, we've run into the issues with Linux using RDP for our TS server. We don't have any Vista, either, so hadn't run into that. I'm leaning more towards thin clients and virtual desktops all the time. Solves *so* many

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Klint Price
I believe you can have multiple license servers, and set the TS app server to specifically use one or the other. Klint From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS Licensing Thanks for all the input

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Free, Bob
I did that trip one night, from US to India to Ireland in less than ½ an hour J From: wjh [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TS Licensing I have successfully (after hours of being bounced around on the phone

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-06 Thread Free, Bob
I do not remember how they are assigned They are assigned according to how you configure the Terminal Server, per-seat or per-user From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TS Licensing I go by how

TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread Jeff Brown
We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have 70 TS CAL's and have had trouble running short on those. Up to this point we have purchased device CAL's and are thinking we might be better off adding user CAL's? Nothing fancy, all our

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Brutsche
You don't need separate licensing servers for per-device and per-user CALs. A single licensing server can serve both. However, teach terminal server needs to be configured to use either per-device or per-user licensing. Jeff Brown wrote: We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees,

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread James Hill
and again. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have 70 TS CAL's and have had trouble running short on those

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread Art DeKneef
do not remember how they are assigned other than when they are entered in the licensing server. Hope that makes sense. Art From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we

Re: TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread Jeff Brown
server. Hope that makes sense. Art *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have

RE: TS Licensing

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Desmond
[mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 4:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TS Licensing We use TS extensively, we have less than 200 employees, 50+ that don't use computers at all. We have 70 TS CAL's and have had trouble running short on those. Up to this point we have