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> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Blackburn Barrett wrote:
> > However, once inside the s
: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:01 PM
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Subject: RE: WAKE UP
I know in our international airport, they allowed knives, but prevented
Ulu's from being carried on board. I don't understand the logic used
there.
These are Native alaskan knives that they sell in gift
Title: RE: WAKE UP
Yeah, some of these changes would increase ticket prices, which is sad since I'm assuming the airlines make a large enough profit to eat some of these extra costs up. How much does human life cost though? I think they need to eat a lot of costs being in the bus
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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The FAA allowed knives under 4" on flights prior to tues
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From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMA
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I got that in coach with American...and leg room!
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From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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No more silverware in first
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Lefkovics, William wrote:
>> - Forbid un-ticketed people beyond the security gate.
>
> I agree. Domestic as well as international?
Of course
should both be
changed regularly, and for the same reason.
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From: Smith Joseph
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No more silverware in first class...
Joseph Smith
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> - Require inspection of all luggage and persons boarding aircraft.
> That's fine with me.
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> - Require passengers to show photo ID at the security gate.
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Title: RE: WAKE UP
>>Granted people could still carry makeshift,
non-metal weapons on themselves,
>>but maybe we need a general pat-down as
well. I would gladly deal with that
>>extra "hassle" to prevent this sort of thing
from happening again.
I
wo
The FAA allowed knives under 4" on flights prior to tues
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From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:52 PM
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No more silverware in first class...
Joseph Smith
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, 2001 4:44 PM
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Lefkovics, William wrote:
>> - Forbid un-ticketed people beyond the security gate.
>
> I agree. Domestic as well as international?
Of course. Witness Tuesday's events.
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> - Require inspection of all luggage and persons boarding aircraft.
> That's fine with me.
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> - Require passengers to show photo ID at the security gate.
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> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Andrew Baker wrote:
> >> Preventing access to the cockpit from the fuselage while the plane is
in
> >> flight?
> >
> > I completely agree.
>
> Apparently,
- Require inspection of all luggage and persons boarding aircraft.
That's fine with me.
- Require passengers to show photo ID at the security gate.
I showed it 5 times at Heathrow, what's another time or two?
- Forbid un-ticketed people beyond the security gate.
I agree. Domestic as well a
Title: RE: WAKE UP
The measures that need to be changed are the security checkpoints. The metal detectors and x-rays. Keeping the U.S. Marshals on the planes like they did in the past. Restricting (and actually ENFORCING) the carry-on bags (quantity and size). All these things would
Title: RE: WAKE UP
I agree William.
How could you comprehend something like this, let alone prepare for it. Now
that it has happened, no one should be blamed for a lack of security, whatever.
The fact is, if someone wants to breach security bad enough, they will. It’s
what we keep
vics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:48 PM
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I don't know if Benjamin Franklin can assess what I deserve, nor would he
know my definition of those terms.
I have no idea what would need to be changed.
Title: RE: WAKE UP
I
appreciate your suggestion. I have. My definitions of those terms remain
different.
I am
curious what we could have done different to prevent Tuesday, as Andrew
asked.
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I suggest you read up on Benjamin Franklin and the other 55 men who eventually signed the Declaration of Independence. They were under no illusions. They knew they were committing high treason against the Crown and that the penalty for doing so was death by hanging
ption
possibilities there, eh?). I don't know.
Are you suggesting that nothing be changed?
William
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From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:43 AM
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>>Please
explain what SECURITY measures should have been taken on the morning
of the 11th that would have prevented the tragedy...
- ASB
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From: PITNEY,LDENISE (A-Sonoma,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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A friend of mine who just had a baby told me "You know they only call it
morning sickness. It actually lasts all day." It's kinda like
'free'dom,
it's not really
Diane Morning Sickness only lasts about 10 minutes
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From: PITNEY,LDENISE (A-Sonoma,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:12 AM
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A friend of mine who just had a baby told me "You know
A friend of mine who just had a baby told me "You know they only call it
morning sickness. It actually lasts all day." It's kinda like 'free'dom,
it's not really free that's just what it's called.
Econ 200 Professor Wells, The University of Arizona in Tucson --"There is no
such thing as a free l
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