Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back
to sleep.
John Turner
- Original Message -
From: Richard
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Sh
so let's try to stop it.
Sue
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, "redk...@optonline.net"
wrote:
Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back
to sleep.
John Turner
- Or
ce is not between wild places or people, it is
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
From: Susan Krause
To: "redk...@optonline.net" ; Richard
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ny
There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk
County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no
distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only
adds targets.
--
NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBi
Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
This reminds me of
The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund
wrote:
There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk
County 4 days a we
Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html
Lynne Hertzog
On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" wrote:
> Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
> This reminds me of
>
Who makes the rules? The hunters.
Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
www.WilsonsWarbler.com
On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog wrote:
Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html
Lynne Hertz
I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am
in DC, I usually think of who is the representative.
Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville.
Here is his contact from a general Google search.
http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/
Hope that h
The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated
or regulated at the state level.
Sent from my wireless tin can
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez wrote:
>
> I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in
> DC, I usually thi
Lopez is the assemblyman. Tonko is the congressman. As a congressional aide we
had calls all the time from state level complaints. For a district I would
start with the congressman and petition for a local contact.
Good luck.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Richard wrote:
>
Richard is correct, it is time for a change and it will not happen without
action from many fronts. The senseless shooting(competition type events ) of
snowshoe hares needs to stop as well.
Thanks Richard for the alert.
MaryBethWarburton
On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog wrote:
> Here
sterlund
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Richard is correct, it is time for a change and it will not happen without
action from many fronts. The senseless shooting(competition type events ) of
snowshoe hares needs to stop as well.
ne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo
; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated
or regulated at the state level.
Sent from my wirele
From:* Richard
> *To:* Jonathan Perez
> *Cc:* Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo <
> czar3...@yahoo.com>; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund <
> james...@optonline.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene
iller
Cc: Richard ; Jonathan Perez
; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar
Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim
Osterlund
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
That is really quite an appalling notice, hopefully the crows are smart enough
to stay away.
ich or an
> impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
> From: Richard
> To: Jonathan Perez
> Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo
> ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim
> Osterlund
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot schedule
-
https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon
From: Jonathan Perez
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:28 AM
To: Richard
Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene
ahoo.com>; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund <
> james...@optonline.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:26 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
>
> Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and
> our Assem
r Castillo
; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and
our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris
Gibson. I will b
;> the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it
>> is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
>> From: Larry Federman
>> To: Jonathan Perez ; Richard
>>
>> Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo
>>
Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the
crows to eat.
Approaching our government representatives is a goo
erez; Richard; Lynne Hertzog; Cesar Castillo; NYSBIRDS-L; Jim
Osterlund
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below)
Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they
Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the
crows to eat.
Approaching our government representatives is a goo
Kedenburg
To: Larry Federman
Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard
; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar
Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim
Osterlund
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received
ist.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-113350129-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick & Linda
> Kedenburg
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: Larry Federman
> Cc: Jonathan Perez; Richard; Lynne Hertzog; Cesar Castillo; NYSBIRDS-L; Jim
> Osterlund
> Subject: Re: [ny
Of *Rick & Linda Kedenburg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
> *To:* Larry Federman
> *Cc:* Jonathan Perez; Richard; Lynne Hertzog; Cesar Castillo; NYSBIRDS-L;
> Jim Osterlund
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
>
>
>
> Dear La
To: Larry Federman
> Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard
> ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar
> Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim
> Osterlund
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
>
> Dear Larry and others,
> I wrote to the club
og; Cesar Castillo; NYSBIRDS-L; Jim
Osterlund
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below)
Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think
not crows.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* bounce-113350129-11471...@list.cornell.edu [
>>> mailto:bounce-113350129-11471...@list.cornell.edu]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Rick & Linda Kedenburg
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
>
chard; Lynne
Hertzog; Cesar Castillo; NYSBIRDS-L; Jim Osterlund
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
The "Blackbirds" mentioned would almost certainly have been Rooks (Corvus
frugilegus) which were regularly eaten historically in Europe. Usually young
birds taken
Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: Stella Miller
Cc: Rick & Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog ,
Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L , Jim Osterlund
> My guess is that nobody will consume any A
hn Turner
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard
> Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
> To: Stella Miller
> Cc: Rick & Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog
> , Ces
og ; Cesar
Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim
Osterlund
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who
could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stoppin
lund
Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:50 am
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who
could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stopping these hunts would have
to be done by changing the law
John Turner
- Original Message -
From: Richard
Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene
County
To: Stella Miller
e with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to justify the
> unjustifyable.
> To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if the ability to
> shoot crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if it stems from federal
> law.......
>
> John Turner
>
> - Original Message
4 12:12 PM
To: Arie Gilbert
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I don't have time to read through all these comments so as not to repeat, but I
don't think that anyone has used the obvious description of these events as a
"MURDER OF CROWS&qu
runcated. -- >
Sent with Verizon Mobile Email
---Original Message---
From: "Arie Gilbert"
Sent: 3/19/2014 8:26 am
To: "NYSBIRDS-L"
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
got a gun,
fact I've got two,
that's okay man cause I lov
ready been said.
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry Trachtenberg
>
> Ossining
>
>
>
> *From:* bounce-113372021-10490...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-113372021-10490...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Cancalosi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:12 PM
> *T
e, it is
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
From: "stella.mille...@yahoo.com"
To: Arie Gilbert ; NYSBIRDS-L
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
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