Re: [www] Ext / Temp repository stability ( was Extensions and templates site down )

2011-08-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM, drew wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:37 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew wrote: > >> > [from out of left field] > >> > Would members consider transferring ownership of the cu

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Ian Lynch
On 15 August 2011 02:20, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Raphael Bircher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 08:01:45 +0200: > > > I assume that a donnation to the ASF is only tax-free in the US. > > Every Country has here there oven criteria. That's the reason why > > Wikipedia has NGO's in each Country. It me

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I don't have any specific comment on this; you might talk to fundraising@. Ian Lynch wrote on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:52:40 +0100: > On 15 August 2011 02:20, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Raphael Bircher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 08:01:45 +0200: > > > > > I assume that a donnation to the ASF is

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Wolf Halton
One way th handle the issue is to have both a non-profit and a for-profit arm to an organization. The NGO foundation side handling education and development issues and the for-profit side handling everything else. Plainly, this might not be a viable option to us for half a dozen reasons; from a pe

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Would a for-profit be able to retain Section 8 in the license? Wolf Halton wrote on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 05:35:57 -0400: > One way th handle the issue is to have both a non-profit and a for-profit > arm to an organization. The NGO foundation side handling education and > development issues and th

Re: [www] Ext / Temp repository stability ( was Extensions and templates site down )

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
2011/8/15 Jürgen Schmidt : > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM, drew wrote: >> > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:37 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew wrote: >> >> > [from out of left field] >> >> > Would members consid

Re: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? (was RE: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > My question is essentially whether there is a choice we could make for an > issue tracker now that gives us an important tool for managing existing > project issues without impairing our ability to migrate the OpenOffice.org > bugzil

[Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
We've been discussing for two months now how to get Hg over to SVN. There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and complete revision history could be migrated over, but little progress has been made. Either the proposals didn't work, or no volunteers stepped forward to implement them.

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:46 -0400, "Rob Weir" wrote: > In each case, the error aborted the import which had to then be > restarted from the top. So it was a slow process, finding all of > these problem files. Possible solutions could include adding them as > binary (not text) files, or editing the

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:46 -0400, "Rob Weir" wrote: >> In each case, the error aborted the import which had to then be >> restarted from the top.  So it was a slow process, finding all of >> these problem files.  Possible solutions could incl

Re: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? (was RE: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-08-15 Thread Donald Whytock
So...what IS the migrated AOO issue tracker? I believe that was the original question? Since an issue tracker is a migration issue, is it time to decide on this particular migration issue? On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton >

[Announcement] Apache ODF Toolkit mailing lists now live

2011-08-15 Thread robert_weir
I'm pleased to note that you can now subscribe to the Apache ODF Toolkit Podling's new dev and users mailings lists. We will be shutting down the ODF Toolkit Union's mailing lists soon, so I urge you to subscribe to the new list now. There are two lists: odf-...@incubator.apache.org is the mai

Re: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? (was RE: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > So...what IS the migrated AOO issue tracker?  I believe that was the > original question?  Since an issue tracker is a migration issue, is it > time to decide on this particular migration issue? > Rafael has described a plan here: https://c

RE: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? (was RE: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-08-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Oh, one other significant item I forgot to mention with regard to my reporting bugs at TDF and not OpenOffice.org. I am running LibreOffice implementations as my preferred ODF consumers and producers, so naturally those attract my attention. I am in no position to arbitrate reports between OO.

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > We've been discussing for two months > now how to get Hg over to SVN. > There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and > complete revision history could be migrated over, but > little progress has been made.  Either the proposals > didn't wor

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: > ... >> We've been discussing for two months >> now how to get Hg over to SVN. >> There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and >> complete revision history could be migrated over, but

Re: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? (was RE: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Oh, one other significant item I forgot to mention with regard to my > reporting bugs at TDF and not OpenOffice.org.  I am running LibreOffice > implementations as my preferred ODF consumers and producers, so naturally > those attract

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi again; --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > The migration to Apache-Extras is the easy part, > right?  It is just Hg to Hg. So we maintain the > complete revision history that way. > Iff apache-extras offers sufficient space for the repository. Actually, I am not very worried about losi

[Identifying Contributors][DISCUSS] (was RE: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? ... )

2011-08-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
With regard to the migration of issues, are we going to manage to preserve the identity of those who posted and commented on issues? I know there is some connection among issue creators, patch creators, and the source-code histories that are somehow tied into particular identification schemes,

RE: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the problem with Apache extras is you get one Hg repository there and there are a bunch over at OpenOffice.org. So some sort of merge has to happen with respect to all of those child workspaces, etc. Also, if I understood the discussion so far, the SVN history was not carried into th

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 15.08.2011 20:15, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: > ... >> We've been discussing for two months >> now how to get Hg over to SVN. >> There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and >> complete revision history could be migrated over, but >> little

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 15.08.2011 18:46, Rob Weir wrote: > We've been discussing for two months now how to get Hg over to SVN. > There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and complete > revision history could be migrated over, but little progress has been > made. Either the proposals didn't work, or no v

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Ingrid von der Mehden
Am 15.08.2011 21:13, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: [..] ooo/trunk/core --- all the OOO340 stuff ooo/trunk/l10n -- all the language stuff Please do the directory rearrangement in SVN. I have no objection to moving stuff but if it's possible to match the old hi

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:27:29 +0200, Ingrid von der Mehden wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:13, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: [..] ooo/trunk/core --- all the OOO340 stuff ooo/trunk/l10n -- all the language stuff Please do the directory rearrangement in SVN. I have no

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > Hi again; > > --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: > >> >> The migration to Apache-Extras is the easy part, >> right?  It is just Hg to Hg. So we maintain the >> complete revision history that way. >> > > Iff apache-extras offers sufficie

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Andy Brown
Pedro Giffuni wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:27:29 +0200, Ingrid von der Mehden wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:13, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: [..] ooo/trunk/core --- all the OOO340 stuff ooo/trunk/l10n -- all the language stuff Please do the directory rearrangem

Re: [Identifying Contributors][DISCUSS] (was RE: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? ... )

2011-08-15 Thread Donald Whytock
Ideally you'd be able to send a unique code to people on the old lists, similar to the confirmation code sent to subscribers here, that took them to a form for subscribing to Apache lists by entering a new email address or confirming the old one. I think someone said importing the subscriber list

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/15/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:27:29 +0200, Ingrid von der Mehden wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:13, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: [..] ooo/trunk/core --- all the OOO340 stuff ooo/trunk/l10n -- all the language stuff Please d

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Wolf Halton
I am not a lawyer, but I have watched people play lawyers in tv shows. :-) I have been involved with church groups who handled their finances this way, but I cannot give legal advice to set it up. We may have an attorney or 2 on the list here, and I was hoping one might pipe up. On Mon, Aug 15,

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 15.08.2011 22:53, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni > wrote: >> Hi again; >> >> --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> >>> The migration to Apache-Extras is the easy part, >>> right? It is just Hg to Hg. So we maintain the >>> complete revision history

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Michael Stahl
On 15.08.2011 23:27, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 15.08.2011 22:53, Rob Weir wrote: The quota is 4GB per project. I'm not sure what the overhead from Hg is, but the file system size, uncompressed, is around 1.8 GB. And that is just the tip of the trunk. hg stores compressed and according to lates

RE: [Identifying Contributors][DISCUSS] (was RE: [Issues] [DISCUSS] Can we track Issues Somehow? ... )

2011-08-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Good catch. I hadn't been thinking about list subscribers so much as wiki contributors, bugzilla contributors, and code contributors/committers in the legacy OpenOffice.org artifacts. Maybe forum contributors too. Even if they never contribute to Apache OO.o, they need to be distinguished from

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Michael Stahl
On 15.08.2011 18:46, Rob Weir wrote: We've been discussing for two months now how to get Hg over to SVN. There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and complete revision history could be migrated over, but little progress has been made. Either the proposals didn't work, or no voluntee

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 15.08.2011 23:37, Michael Stahl wrote: > On 15.08.2011 23:27, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> On 15.08.2011 22:53, Rob Weir wrote: >>> The quota is 4GB per project. I'm not sure what the overhead from Hg >>> is, but the file system size, uncompressed, is around 1.8 GB. And >>> that is just the tip of

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > I look at it this way:  What do we need to do to > "unblock" the greatest number of people on the > project?  Getting the wiki migrated enables many > contributors.  Getting SVN working does the same. > Bugzilla is mainly useful once we are actively >

How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-15 Thread eric b
Hi, Doing some performance tests, I just figured out the types.rdb file is a binary file, just provided in the sources. Can someone explain me : - why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org sources ? ( OOO320_m1x for instance, but DEV300 is probably the same) - how to crea

Re: How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-15 Thread Chaosun
>>- why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org sources ? >>( OOO320_m1x for instance, but DEV300 is probably the same) "This file is provided with OpenOffice.org and brings a virtual image of all the idl files used by OOo. You can use it to create all the hpp and hdl files need

Re: How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-15 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 16 août 11 à 04:23, Chaosun a écrit : - why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org sources ? ( OOO320_m1x for instance, but DEV300 is probably the same) "This file is provided with OpenOffice.org and brings a virtual image of all the idl files used by OOo. Indeed.

Re: How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 16.08.2011 01:31, eric b wrote: > Hi, > > Doing some performance tests, I just figured out the types.rdb file > is a binary file, just provided in the sources. > > Can someone explain me : > > - why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org sources ? > ( OOO320_m1x for instan

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 15.08.2011 23:48, Michael Stahl wrote: > On 15.08.2011 18:46, Rob Weir wrote: >> We've been discussing for two months now how to get Hg over to SVN. >> There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and complete >> revision history could be migrated over, but little progress has been >>

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 14 août 11 à 12:24, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : On 14/08/2011 eric b wrote: Le 13 août 11 à 17:44, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : PLIO, the association corresponding to the Italian Native-Lang Project, has been a registered charity in Italy since 2005 and receives contributions from Italian t