Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Ian Lynch
On 15 October 2011 22:27, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/14/2011 01:32 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: The real point to this discussion is that the AOOo podling PPC needs a clear Marketing Team. hmmm...an obvious choice for a lead might be one of the former marketing folks like

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Stahl
On 15.10.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-16 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Simon, 2011/10/15 Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com I just passed on your words here to the conference attendees in the closing address and the audience responded with spontaneous applause. Great news! I've read this release on the Web :

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... The sync has died.  Stuck on this error: :( The next revision has a huge memo, over 1MB long: svn log -r 49548 http://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/ I wonder if that is the problem. I can't fix this on my end, at

Re: [REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long)

2011-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Dennis, This is an interesting approach. In the Wikis we have accumulated many of the properties for the multitude of sub-domains for OOo. I like that this approach is open-ended and properties can be added to the parts as these make sense. The approach taken so far fits this idea. I think

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Jürgen, On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 00:04:59 +0200: I don't wanted to be arrogant or presumptuous but i really don't care here about other projects. Infra won't install your stuff without considering the effect on the 100

RE: [REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long)

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I like your breakdown. I don't think that each of us is looking at the same thing, and my use of property has apparently confused matters. But I like your breakdown. I would like some practice on a wiki organization before automating though. I'd prefer something that grounds our

RE: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 It is important to understand the responsibility of the AOOo project to support its infrastructural needs beyond the basics that are available to all projects. And even then, the project has curation and administration responsibility for aspects of the SVN (e.g., how it is used to deploy

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi guys, Just to check ... The Croatian dictionary has been re-submitted under an Apache License 2 (bug 96705), however the zip file submitted still contains the LGPL in the makefile. We should try to get the author to

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 15:33:36 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... The sync has died.  Stuck on this error: :( The next revision has a huge memo, over 1MB

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-) svnrdump is available in Subversion 1.7 and newer.

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I think we discussed this before but it would be excellent if Robert can further clarify it once and for all. I think that since the code is being clearly contributed to us through bugzilla we can apply section 5 Submission of Contributions. of the AL2. Of course we still have to make sure the

Re: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-16 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi *, I took some days to fix that long missing OLE-Attribute feature/bug. It is on one hand a missing feature (no reason to not apply attributes and transformations to OLE which contains the same as graphical object, a MetaFile) and on the other a

Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. Thanks! -Rob

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Simon Phipps
On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. So far moderating ooo-users hasn't been burdensome, so I'd be happy to volunteer to moderate this one too. As for timezone, I am mostly in the UK or elsewhere in europe. S.

Re:[DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. The problem with defining specific roles that individuals fill is that those people are then seen to be responsible and others do not step up to help write as

RE: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
While attention is on the topic of rendering control for OLE objects, I have questions: How does this modification show up in the ODF XML surrounding the OLE object (element draw:ole-object)? In addition Also, one problem that has been a source of complaint is failure to preserve cropping of

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed.  More is fine as well. So far moderating ooo-users hasn't been burdensome, so I'd be happy to volunteer to moderate this

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. The problem with defining specific roles that individuals fill is that those

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. So far moderating

[@ Rob Weir] Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Paul
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. So far moderating

Re: [@ Rob Weir] Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Paul paul.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators,

Re: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-16 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Dennis, Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb: While attention is on the topic of rendering control for OLE objects, I have questions: How does this modification show up in the ODF XML surrounding the OLE object (elementdraw:ole-object)? In addition Also, one problem that has been a source of

RE: [@ Rob Weir] Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Paul, Are you no longer able to moderate users@ OO.o ? Has something changed? Also, do you know if the moderators @ OO.o is operating and who is *that* moderator? It would be good to have a broader conversation on what is happening with lists at OO.o. - Dennis -Original Message-

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Dave Barton
Original Message From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:07:29 -0400 Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. Thanks! -Rob I will put my hand up for this. Currently located in

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Graham Lauder
On 10/15/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger set of roles let's

[Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
I'm making a proposal now to shut down the legacy OOo mailing lists and direct the existing subscribers to one of the AOOo mailing lists. I realize that this is not the solution that many of us would prefer, but I believe that it is the best way forward that anyone is willing to volunteer to lead.

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Simon Phipps
On 16 Oct 2011, at 23:08, Graham Lauder wrote: Looks like we have globe covered, I'm in Dave's timezone so excess ,to requirements ATM but will happily jump in if needed. I think two per TZ (actually timezone block) is a good goal, it means we don't all have to be available all the time. S.

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:34:33 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop

Re: Migration: any plans to preserve mailing list archives?

2011-10-16 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/13/2011 9:26 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Are there any plans to preserve archives of any existing @oo.o mailing lists? I didn't see a treatment of archives on the planning page:

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Shane Curcuru
This is a specific issue that is important to understand: On 10/16/2011 5:25 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 16 October 2011 21:42, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is

Re: [@ Rob Weir] Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Paul
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Paul, Are you no longer able to moderate users@ OO.o ? Has something changed? I received a bunch of emails over the weekend advising that I've been removed as owner of most of the OOo lists... I assumed

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Maho NAKATA
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Subject: Legacy OOo SVN Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:32:44 -0400 I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository (pre Hg) and get it onto Apache-Extras. I'm doing this via svnsync, a slow

Linux (Ubuntu 10.04/i386) build was successful.

2011-10-16 Thread Maho NAKATA
Hi just FYI, my Linux (Ubuntu 10.04/i386) build was successful. cf. http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/e/5ea36fa8cd22d8f559b0ffb041c43a9e thanks!

Re: Good-Day site is gone...

2011-10-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; I think this is very important. unfortunately I do not think we can use Apache servers/mirrors for this until we have gone through the IP clearance process. BTW, Perhaps we could consider putting up torrents? cheers, Pedro. --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org wrote: Hi,

[code] [issue 118517] Twain header update for testing

2011-10-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; As you might have noticed I have been updating some headers and libraries we use internally. I think it is just logical to want to start working with modern APIs. In the case of TWAIN, this is something that has evolved quite a bit, the new versions add support for UNIX/linux and Win64.

RE: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Shane, I am guessing that earning from advertising is meant to be having revenue by permitting ad placements on OpenOffice.org web properties. I would be happy to learn that this is not intended. It occurs to me that some thinking about the marketing posture needs to be considered before

RE: [DISCUSS] [ooo-users] Speaking of ooo-users

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Let's not jiggle anything just yet. The options have not been explored and it may be better to have some preparatory assistance of current-list moderators and administrators. There are a ton of mailing lists under the live OO.o site. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk

OO.o Migration: Mailing Lists

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Paul, that is very helpful. There's no information here about a change in OO.o list ownerships and who did it. It may have been to provide one of the Oracle members on the Apache OOo project a means to prepare for movement. I don't believe any precipitate action is forthcoming. In

RE: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Regina, That looks good. Is the draw:ole-object the only child of the draw:frame? I'm asking because I wonder what is needed in the ODF specification with regard to draw:frame attributes when there are alternative images among the draw:frame children. E.g., if there were a draw:ole-object

Re: Good-Day site is gone...

2011-10-16 Thread Maho NAKATA
From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Subject: Re: Good-Day site is gone... Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:16:30 -0700 (PDT) I think this is very important. unfortunately I do not think we can use Apache servers/mirrors for this until we have gone through the IP clearance process. Arrgh. BTW,