Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 28/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: ps. Andrea, please do link the document in the new site :). Done some days ago in revision 1212124, but it doesn't show up on the live instance. And actually I can't see the previous commit by you either (revision 1203948), so I'm probably looking at the

[PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
The Italian OpenOffice.org community relies on mailing lists (some with several hundreds subscribers) for user support, discussions and project coordination. While these are a legacy asset, I see it necessary that Apache OpenOffice provides a replacement for these lists as part of the

Re: Problems with OpenOffice.org mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Weir... wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: If indeed delivery has stopped and no technical support is available, then the mailing list migration would escalate in priority... I tried a test

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: The Italian OpenOffice.org community relies on mailing lists (some with several hundreds subscribers) for user support, discussions and project coordination. While these are a legacy asset, I see it necessary that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A project list, named ooo-project-it at incubator.apache.org I wonder if ooo-general-it.i.a.o might be possible, instead of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ...  wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A project list, named ooo-project-it at

Re: Problems with OpenOffice.org mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/11/2011 01:02 AM, schrieb TJ Frazier: On 12/10/2011 18:06, Andrea Pescetti wrote: It seems something is broken on the OpenOffice.org mailing lists. For example, the Italian user list archives and the global user list archives seem to stop at November 30th:

Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
Subject above is the question. I thought we were really close. What is needed to push this live? What specifically are we waiting for? -Rob

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ... wrote: - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org - A

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 28/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: ps. Andrea, please do link the document in the new site :). Done some days ago in revision 1212124, but it doesn't show up on the live instance. And actually I can't see the previous commit by you

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 28/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: ps. Andrea, please do link the document in the new site :). Done some days ago in revision 1212124, but it doesn't show up on the

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: but I don't see the change (Protezione dei Dati su Apache OpenOffice) at http://ooo-site.apache.org/it/contribuire/legale.html Should I use a different URL? Try http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ The publish step has not

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting... But yes, I was pretty much thinking along the lines Rob sketched out modulo TJ F. I can sound out these ideas. Political as well as resource issues come to mind, but I also see this as an

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti ...  

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Subject above is the question. I thought we were really close. What is needed to push this live? What specifically are we waiting for? -Rob Well there were there was the clean up item on Contributing that you asked for

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 28/11/2011 Pedro Giffuni wrote: ps. Andrea, please do link the document in the new site :). Done some days ago

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting... But yes, I was pretty much thinking along the lines Rob sketched out modulo TJ F. I can sound out these ideas. Political as well as resource

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Subject above is the question.  I thought we were really close.  What is needed to push this live?  What specifically are we waiting for? -Rob Well

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Subject above is the question. I thought we were really close. What is needed to push this live? What specifically are we waiting for? -Rob Well there were there was

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM,

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dave Fisher

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 to the creation of the italian lists. As for the number of them: I think we should create both now and review if there is sufficient traffic to maintain them both once we graduate.

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread imacat
On 2011/12/12 02:20, Rob Weir said: I see that many other projects have an official announce list. This would be used for official public communications: This is a great idea. In fact, this is the right way to do. 3) New blog posts I think this should be reconsidered. What kind of

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:38 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2011/12/12 02:20, Rob Weir said: I see that many other projects have an official announce list.  This would be used for official public communications:    This is a great idea.  In fact, this is the right way to do.

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread TJ Frazier
+1 in general; quibbles in-line. On 12/11/2011 13:20, Rob Weir wrote: I see that many other projects have an official announce list. This would be used for official public communications: 1) New releases 2) New services 3) New blog posts Unnecessary. Interested parties will track these

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: (1) Finish wrapping with breadcrumbs, topnav and folder specific topnav. Also license/copyright. (2) Approval from Trademarks. (3) Redirection list for subdomains. Kay you could help with this. (4) Participate link. Then co-ordination with Infra to do these: (a) Publish build

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:53 PM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: +1 in general; quibbles in-line. On 12/11/2011 13:20, Rob Weir wrote: I see that many other projects have an official announce list.  This would be used for official public communications: 1) New releases 2) New

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Andrea, On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: (1) Finish wrapping with breadcrumbs, topnav and folder specific topnav. Also license/copyright. (2) Approval from Trademarks. (3) Redirection list for subdomains. Kay you could help with this. (4)

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weir

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread TJ Frazier
On 12/11/2011 14:08, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:53 PM, TJ Fraziertjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: +1 in general; quibbles in-line. On 12/11/2011 13:20, Rob Weir wrote: I see that many other projects have an official announce list. This would be used for official public

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 12/11/2011 14:08, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:53 PM, TJ Fraziertjfraz...@cfl.rr.com  wrote: +1 in general; quibbles in-line. On 12/11/2011 13:20, Rob Weir wrote: I see that many other projects have

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/12/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: Send an email to supp...@osuosl.org and start a conversation with Lance Albertson. He's willing to tell you all about it. The short answer is that Oracle was making changes when the plug was pulled on OOo. They left it broken. Done. I hope that I will be able

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 10/12/2011 Gavin McDonald wrote: From: Ross Gardler Can anyone state that we are legally able to take the Drupal code? ... I checked, got a very clear 'no problem, no issues, please take it' I assume this is enough for us to start looking at the code, even though I would appreciate a

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Subject above is the question. I thought we were really close. What is needed to push this

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Kay Schenk
oops! corrected typos below... On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.netwrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

RE: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@openoffice.org] Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 7:51 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Extensions and templates On 09/12/2011 Dave Fisher wrote: Send an email to supp...@osuosl.org and start a conversation

RE: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@openoffice.org] Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 7:52 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Extensions and templates On 10/12/2011 Gavin McDonald wrote: From: Ross Gardler Can anyone state that we are legally

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gavin McDonald wrote: You should have read my reply to the above email first. Please do not bother Lance or OSUOSL with this again, I have access and I have it in hand. I had read your reply of course, but having it in hand does not imply you know all history, and I was interested in knowing

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: snip I've already answered. I've been very clear. Nothing has stopped others from working on ooo-site. I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not interested in

Re: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Gavin McDonald wrote: You don't need a public comment from Oracle, the answer I got was from Oracle. Thanks for sharing this further bit of information. I confirm I volunteer for the two tasks I leave below. Regards, Andrea. So you can count me in, my initial focus being on the following

clarification on origin of Native Language Projects

2011-12-11 Thread Louis R Suárez-Potts
OT, more or less... I need to clarify the origin of the Native Language projects—and it's important to do this, as part of the point of them was to capture the spirit of autonomy that characterises Foss activity (you know, if you want something done right, do it yourself: one way of putting

RE: Extensions and templates

2011-12-11 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@openoffice.org] Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 9:20 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Extensions and templates Gavin McDonald wrote: You don't need a public comment from Oracle, the answer I got was from

RE: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the ooo-announce list is a good idea. The blog would be an alternative, since it is rather the official voice of the Apache OpenOffice podling. The RSS feed can be the equivalent of list subscription. A detail: I don't believe there is any exception to the PPMC having the decisions

RE: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Rob, are you saying that you would not edit ooo-site simply because it is not being served as OpenOffice.org ? There are many ways that assistance is welcome, especially if folks notice the breakages and report them in a way where they can be swept up in the preparation of the staging site

RE: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
D'accordo! -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@openoffice.org] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:37 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists [ ... ] Thanks for the explanations. We'll then

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: snip I've already answered. I've been very clear. Nothing has stopped others from working on

Re: Proposal: ooo-announce list

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I think the ooo-announce list is a good idea.  The blog would be an alternative, since it is rather the official voice of the Apache OpenOffice podling.  The RSS feed can be the equivalent of list subscription.

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site live, and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to point at it? I've made some performance enhancements to the CMS today so web checkouts will only take a few seconds as opposed to 30min. Also I will be working on your site's build

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Rob, are you saying that you would not edit ooo-site simply because it is not being served as OpenOffice.org ? No. There are many ways that assistance is welcome, especially if folks notice the breakages and

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site live, and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to point at it? There is an outstanding question about exactly how the extensions and templates authenticate users. It is being

Re: Build AOO on Ubuntu

2011-12-11 Thread linyi li
Hi, Andrew I tried the following step: In case it might help, here are the commands currently used to run the nightly build: svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/ooo/trunkhttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunkooo cd ooo/main wget -O

Re: Build AOO on Ubuntu

2011-12-11 Thread Tsutomu Uchino
Hi, 2011/12/12 linyi li lilinyi921...@gmail.com: Hi, Andrew [snip] - Entering /home/lily/ooo/main/stlport  mkout -- version: 1.8 dmake: Error: -- `./ unxlngi6.pro/misc/18f577b374d60b3c760a3a3350407632-STLport-4.5.unpack' not found, and can't

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Joe, Great. I've created a URL redirect list which I'll attach to INFRA-3933 as we discussed. I made the list in the following format - the first three are special and following is the pattern for the rest of the well over 100 subdomains. FR Forum will be happy about the first. Rob should

Re: Where are we on the website migration, ooo-site - openoffice.org?

2011-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Kay, On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: oops! corrected typos below... On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.netwrote: On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Re: Build AOO on Ubuntu

2011-12-11 Thread linyi li
Hi Tsutomu, I have already put that file into ext_source/ directory. I tried to build again and the last error disappeared. Thank you very much:) Hope the following build successful:) 2011/12/12 Tsutomu Uchino hanya.r...@gmail.com Hi, 2011/12/12 linyi li lilinyi921...@gmail.com: Hi,