Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-10-11 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 2012-10-11, at 24:24 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 09/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: And indeed this happened today: FOSDEM organizers, who received an application from Apache OpenOffice and one from

Re: commit after review vs lazy consensus (was Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation)

2012-10-11 Thread Andre Fischer
Ahem, Yesterday I have created issue 121191 for this, see my mail Cleaning up ext_sources/ here on ooo-dev for details. I will start deleting the files probably tomorrow, so this is a mild form of lazy consensus. -Andre On 10.10.2012 23:45, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:11 PM,

Re: Proposed resolution: Establish the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-10-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 10/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: I've proceeded now and started the 72-hour vote on general@incubator. Quick follow-up: - Vote thread is at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201210.mbox/%3C5075C5B0.4010403%40apache.org%3E - We received some approvals, no problems

3.5 Features/Defects - Fwd: [Bug 101466] ODFF: implement AVERAGEIF and AVERAGEIFS

2012-10-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Ariel, I'm cleaning up the Target Milestone field for our 3.5 milestone build. Below case is the situation that from the defect history it looks like a very old defect, but in fact it was not committed until recently. I also has several similar defects below. I wonder if you can tell me

Re: 3.5 Features/Defects - Fwd: [Bug 101466] ODFF: implement AVERAGEIF and AVERAGEIFS

2012-10-11 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Shenfeng Liu, On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 03:41:49PM +0800, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Ariel, I'm cleaning up the Target Milestone field for our 3.5 milestone build. Below case is the situation that from the defect history it looks like a very old defect, but in fact it was not committed until

Re: Installation patches

2012-10-11 Thread Herbert Dürr
On 2012/10/10 5:03 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: On 09.10.2012 17:39, Pedro Giffuni wrote: From: Andre Fischer ... As you can imagine generating packages takes a lot of time: it involves extracting and repackaging.: it would be nice to have a raw mode that just installs things and let our

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all Am 21.09.12 15:35, schrieb Albino B Neto: Hi. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Issac Goldstand is...@volo-net.com wrote: +1 - I'm for it and willing to help seed :) +1 Would we be using our own tracker (does infra even have a tracker script?) or some third-party website's? I was

Re: Demonstrating Issues for Bug Reports

2012-10-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/11/12 5:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I had no idea there was this handy tool. It should help with demonstrations of problems in AOO: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HelpYourUsersRecordAndReportBugsWithTheProblemStepsRecorder.aspx - Dennis Have you tried it? The question is

RE: Demonstrating Issues for Bug Reports

2012-10-11 Thread Maurice Howe
Whoa, Hoss! That Windows/7 routine has major flaws, at least for me. I couldn't use several OUTLOOK features (such as BOLD). Restarting Outlook didn't help, so I did a Windows restart. That locked everything up solid (couldn't even click START). Finally mashed POWER OFF and restarted the

Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread zhun guo
To Alexandro Colorado: This article is so good for understanding of history of HTML or XML. Thanks!

Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread BIG JAM
thanks if you can help me .. give me your mail? Dario Il giorno 11/ott/2012, alle ore 15:51, zhun guo ha scritto: To Alexandro Colorado: This article is so good for understanding of history of HTML or XML. Thanks!

Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread zhun guo
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Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread BIG JAM
I'm looking for a programmer to help me (surcharge) to make an extension for open office Why did you send me this? Il giorno 11/ott/2012, alle ore 15:51, zhun guo ha scritto: To Alexandro Colorado: This article is so good for understanding of history of HTML or XML. Thanks!

Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread BIG JAM
To Alexandro Colorado: This article is so good for understanding of history of HTML or XML. Thanks! Il giorno 11/ott/2012, alle ore 15:51, zhun guo ha scritto: To Alexandro Colorado: This article is so good for understanding of history of HTML or XML. Thanks!

Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On 11 October 2012 15:04, BIG JAM i...@bigjam.191.it wrote: I'm looking for a programmer to help me (surcharge) to make an extension for open office Why did you send me this? You are in a public discussion forum in a discussion thread about cloud office interoperability. You will get

Re: Installation patches

2012-10-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Original Message - ... That is already done in the background. Before any archive, installer or packages are created AOO is setup in a temporary directory. The following diff prevents the temporary directory from being deleted before make install: ends: [...] AFAIK

Re: [RELEASE] milestone build (Was: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...)

2012-10-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2012/10/10 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 10/09/2012 03:58 AM, schrieb Shenfeng Liu: 2012/10/9 Ariel Constenla-Hailearielch@**apache.org arie...@apache.org Hi Jürgen, * On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 04:58:03PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The build bots are still not build the same

Re: 3.5 Features/Defects - Fwd: [Bug 101466] ODFF: implement AVERAGEIF and AVERAGEIFS

2012-10-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Ariel, Thanks very much for your information! The reason I cleaned the Target Milestone field was that for those issues, the value of AOO 3.5.0 was inherited from original OOo system, but not being set newly. So I treated them as invalid value. But if they are really new features in our code,

Re: [RELEASE] milestone build (Was: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...)

2012-10-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/11/12 4:59 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: 2012/10/10 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 10/09/2012 03:58 AM, schrieb Shenfeng Liu: 2012/10/9 Ariel Constenla-Hailearielch@**apache.org arie...@apache.org Hi Jürgen, * On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 04:58:03PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The

RE: Demonstrating Issues for Bug Reports

2012-10-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'll take a look. You might want to look in the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager to see if there is a noticeable process that is still running. -Original Message- From: Maurice Howe [mailto:maur...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 05:50 To:

Re: commit after review vs lazy consensus (was Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation)

2012-10-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; Silence is consent. :) Pedro. From: Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:06 AM Subject: Re: commit after review vs lazy consensus (was Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation)

Re: [RELEASE] milestone build (Was: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...)

2012-10-11 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Simon, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: I went through all the implemented features and enhancements for 3.5.0, added/removed the Target Milestone value to some of the records. And I created a query *TargetTo350FEATURE_Fixed* that can be easier for us to write release notes:

Re: Installation patches

2012-10-11 Thread Herbert Dürr
Hi Pedro, The ability to sidestep archive creation would be welcome (I think). That is already possible using the configure option --with-package-format=installed which avoids the archive creation. Getting back to the topic of having an install makefile target: There already is an install

RE: Demonstrating Issues for Bug Reports

2012-10-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I ran the Problem Steps Recorder and noticed the following things: 1. If you want to make comments, you need to do it while the Recorder is running. It asks you to outline a portion of your screen and then enter your comment in a comment dialog that comes up. You can do this any number of

RE: Demonstrating Issues for Bug Reports

2012-10-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm afraid I can't reproduce the problem Maurice Howe reports. I wonder if there is some other software that has his keyboard and mouse hooked and the recorder interfered with that in some way. The only application I have running that is watching the keyboard and mouse is HyperSnap DX. My

Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello Rob, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] So areas where I could use help: 1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who should be invited. German, French, Italian and Spanish

Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Sylvain DENIS
Hello, I can help in french ;) greetings Sylvain DENIS Le 11/10/12 19:05, Rob Weir a écrit : On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello Rob, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] So areas where I could use help: 1) Reviewing the non-English

Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote: I can help in french ;) greetings So good. Volunteers are showing up (: -- Albino

Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I can help in french ;) Thanks. Look for a note direct from me in a few minutes. -Rob greetings Sylvain DENIS Le 11/10/12 19:05, Rob Weir a écrit : On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: I setting up a tracker now... http://rbircher.homeunix.org:6969 Good. You are using a mirror, or downloaded and upload here ? -- Albino

Headless memory leak #105191

2012-10-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Just want to bring attention to this pretty nasty bug about soffice doing serious memory leak when dealing with headless mode. The bug has been reviewed and confirmed yet no breakthrough has happened in quite a few years. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=105191 Does anyone know

At the sound of the beep...

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
At the sound of the beep Apache OpenOffice 3.4 downloads will exceed 20 million. beep Congrats, everyone. -Rob

Re: Installation patches

2012-10-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Herbert; From: Herbert Dürr h...@apache.org Hi Pedro, The ability to sidestep archive creation would be welcome (I think). That is already possible using the configure option   --with-package-format=installed which avoids the archive creation. I have

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: In other words, for 99% of normal end users in a low bandwidth/high latency/unreliable connections, wouldn't a download manager over http be the better solution? Yes. Sun had one dubbed Sun Download Manager, written in cross

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree stongly. Seeding torrents is a bandwith-intensive, and particularly upstream-intensive proposition. Most residential broadband links -at least down here in .AR- are limited to 512K to 256 Kbps upstream speed.

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Albino Am 11.10.12 19:27, schrieb Albino B Neto: Hi. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: I setting up a tracker now... http://rbircher.homeunix.org:6969 Good. You are using a mirror, or downloaded and upload here ? At the moment it is hand work.

Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-10-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 2012-10-11, at 24:24 , Rob Weir wrote: OK. So we've said that we're happy to share a devroom. This is good. Are we still waiting to hear from LO? Yes; apparently LibreOffice had not thought about this, even though it was clearly written in the guidelines that

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: I setting up a tracker now... http://rbircher.homeunix.org:6969 You are using a mirror, or downloaded and upload here ? At the moment it is hand work. But this is also only a temporary solution for me. I will

Re: At the sound of the beep...

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: At the sound of the beep Apache OpenOffice 3.4 downloads will exceed 20 million. So Good ! beep Congratulation for all ! =D All team is working very for this, now and always is ever increasing. -- Albino

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 11.10.12 21:13, schrieb Albino B Neto: Hi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: I setting up a tracker now... http://rbircher.homeunix.org:6969 You are using a mirror, or downloaded and upload here ? At the moment it is hand work. But this is also

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
HI On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: They are on now http://rbircher.homeunix.org:6969/index.tmpl?search=pt-BR Thanks (: You do statics about download of AOO ? -- Albino

Re: At the sound of the beep...

2012-10-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/11/2012 11:03 AM, Rob Weir wrote: At the sound of the beep Apache OpenOffice 3.4 downloads will exceed 20 million. beep Congrats, everyone. -Rob WOW! That's a BIG BEEP! :) -- MzK Anyone who considers

OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread David Paenson
Dear all, I keep on thinking: wouldn't it be wonderful if OpenOffice was available for tablets running Android? Yesterday I had to tell a student who had bought a cheap tablet including external keyboard she had better resell it and buy instead a netbook, so she could install OpenOffice for

Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-10-11 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 2012-10-11, at 20:52 , Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 2012-10-11, at 24:24 , Rob Weir wrote: OK. So we've said that we're happy to share a devroom. This is good. Are we still waiting to hear from LO? Yes; apparently LibreOffice had not

Re: OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:10 PM, David Paenson davepo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I keep on thinking: wouldn't it be wonderful if OpenOffice was available for tablets running Android? Yesterday I had to tell a student who had bought a cheap tablet including external keyboard she had

Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts oulipo.apa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 2012-10-11, at 20:52 , Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 2012-10-11, at 24:24 , Rob Weir wrote: OK. So we've said that we're happy to share a devroom. This is

Re: OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The guys from KOffice got some funding by Nokia to port their office suite to Maemo-Meego back in 2009, if the project experience demand they were going to continue their work for a full blown editor. Unfortunately, we all know what happened to those. However, I do wonder what would it prevent

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
I'm getting Torrent unauthorized for all but one of the torrents there... Are you sure that the tracker is set up properly? On 11/10/2012 10:39, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all Am 21.09.12 15:35, schrieb Albino B Neto: Hi. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Issac Goldstand is...@volo-net.com

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Raphael Bircher
You are right, only one download works, and searching for solutions is a real nightmare. If you have only torrent in the search string, you get pointet to all this stupid public trackers, or dummy questions from P2P Downloaders. I didn't find a Link to a good manual. This proves, BitTorrent is 98%

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-10-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dude...Are you citing yourself? Don No, I cited Vint Cerf agreeing with me wrt residential broadband should be symmetric (same upstream speed as downstream). That´s what really sets apart passive consummers of web info

Re: OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:10 PM, David Paenson davepo...@gmail.com wrote: I keep on thinking: wouldn't it be wonderful if OpenOffice was available for tablets running Android? Yesterday I had to tell a student who had bought a cheap tablet including external keyboard she had better resell it

Re: OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: However, I do wonder what would it prevent anyone to take the OO algoritm to manage ODF and port it to Java and skin it under the Android native Toolkit. I would prefer Java based Thinkfree office (which has Java SE and

Re: OpenOffice for Android

2012-10-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/11/12, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: However, I do wonder what would it prevent anyone to take the OO algoritm to manage ODF and port it to Java and skin it under the Android native Toolkit. I would

Re: Outreach techniques -- what works

2012-10-11 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 um 19:03 schrieb Rob Weir: Some quick observations based on recent experience and metrics. I think this is important when we consider ways of reaching out for volunteers. Facts:

Re: [RELEASE] milestone build (Was: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...)

2012-10-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2012/10/12 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Simon, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: I went through all the implemented features and enhancements for 3.5.0, added/removed the Target Milestone value to some of the records. And I created a query *TargetTo350FEATURE_Fixed* that can be easier

Default Toolbar for Certain Languages

2012-10-11 Thread imacat
I would like to ask if it is possible for a default toolbar for certain languages, but not all. Out local community was asking a Chinese punctuation toolbar for a long time, which they were used to it since MS Office 97. Unlike English punctuation, it is very trouble to input Chinese

Re: Outreach techniques -- what works

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Oct 11, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 um 19:03 schrieb Rob Weir: Some quick observations based on recent experience and metrics. I think this is