Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-18 Thread Donald Harbison
OK, let's ask ourselves if we have some building block presentations that can be updated, merged, improved, to meet the requirements of the (3) topics I proposed. We could use a basic 'Apache Way' talk. Ross, can you please attach the charts you used at the ODF Plug-fest in Berlin, July 14 or 15?

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-18 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/18/2011 4:04 PM, Donald Harbison wrote: ... We could use a basic 'Apache Way' talk. Ross, can you please attach the charts you used at the ODF Plug-fest in Berlin, July 14 or 15? See also: http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html Feel free to suggest patches to those pages;

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-18 Thread Shane Curcuru
Huh. I started my own collection of useful how to work in Apache-style open source communities list. Are these useful enough I should add it as a link on community.a.o? http://www.slideshare.net/shanecurcuru/favorites - Shane (many ApacheCon presenters use slideshare)

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-18 Thread Ross Gardler
On 18 October 2011 21:04, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, let's ask ourselves if we have some building block presentations that can be updated, merged, improved, to meet the requirements of the (3) topics I proposed. We could use a basic 'Apache Way' talk. Ross, can you please

RE: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
that the downloads are public. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Donald Harbison [mailto:dpharbi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 13:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team OK, let's ask ourselves if we have some building block presentations that can

RE: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Ross Gardler
With my mentor hat firmly on... +1 to Dennis' observations below. +1 to video/text/slidedecks/posters that explain what AOOo is and how it can be used by third parties and how those third parties can build upon and contribute to the project. -1 on the AOOo project itself seeking to directly

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On 17 October 2011 00:17, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: This is a specific issue that is important to understand: On 10/16/2011 5:25 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 16 October 2011 21:42, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ross

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On 17 October 2011 07:58, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: With my mentor hat firmly on... +1 to Dennis' observations below.9 -- I wasn't suggesting any advertising around official AOO websites etc. Simply that if outside ASF we made some You Tube videos (put OpenOffice.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/17/2011 4:04 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 October 2011 00:17, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: This is a specific issue that is important to understand: On 10/16/2011 5:25 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: ...snip... Projects are certainly welcome to get the word out about the ASF

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/16/2011 6:01 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: On 10/15/11, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: ...snip... - Brand Manager. Dedicated to the OOo brand. A whole Marketing team task pretty much, a dedicated individual could get swamped. I think that is a little confusion sometimes

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Donald Harbison
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. Agree 100%. I propose we turn our focus to planning the deliverables the 'need

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On 17 October 2011 14:28, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 10/17/2011 4:04 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 October 2011 00:17, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: This is a specific issue that is important to understand: On 10/16/2011 5:25 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible.

RE: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. Agree 100%. I propose we turn our

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Ian Lynch
On 15 October 2011 22:27, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/14/2011 01:32 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: The real point to this discussion is that the AOOo podling PPC needs a clear Marketing Team. hmmm...an obvious choice for a lead might be one of the former marketing folks like

Re:[DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. The problem with defining specific roles that individuals fill is that those people are then seen to be responsible and others do not step up to help write as

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is better to define things that need to be done rather than the roles that will be responsible. The problem with defining specific roles that individuals fill is that those

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Graham Lauder
On 10/15/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger set of roles let's

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Shane Curcuru
This is a specific issue that is important to understand: On 10/16/2011 5:25 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 16 October 2011 21:42, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Just a meta-observation. Generally it is

RE: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
concerning deficiencies of alternatives is fitting in this new home of OpenOffice.org. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 16:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team This is a specific

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/14/2011 01:32 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: The real point to this discussion is that the AOOo podling PPC needs a clear Marketing Team. hmmm...an obvious choice for a lead might be one of the former marketing folks like Graham Lauder. Maybe he'll step up. As for the others...no

[DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger set of roles let's have a discussion and come to a consensus. Types of