RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To avoid branding issues and the rules for incubators, I favor the simplified wording without Apache if that works. That is, Andy Brown's suggested OpenOffice.org and related products (assuming we are still talking about material accessed via *.openoffice.org and not *.apache.org) Pointing

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
A general comment on mailing list policy at Apache: On 8/6/2011 4:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Terry Ellisonte...@ellisons.org.uk wrote: On 05/08/11 08:10, eric b wrote: Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : ...snip... Historically and (possibly with

Re: Website Privacy Policy ( was: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-08 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 16:02 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:54 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 21:44 -0400, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 18:01 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: snip 5 - Currently the site references a Privacy Policy

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 06:35 PM, schrieb Ingrid von der Mehden: Am 06.08.2011 17:50, schrieb drew: On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi drew, On Saturday, 2011-08-06 11:27:14 -0400, drew wrote: Ok - here is a possible footer

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/06/2011 08:50 AM, drew wrote: I can slide them back to the right, I thought it looked better with the change, but I'll go however the group wants. Here is an example with the gulls back in their original slot: http://lo-portal.us/AOOo/aoo-podling-200x70.png +1 better... (note

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-07 Thread eric
Hi Drew, drew a écrit : On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Here is an example with the gulls back in their original slot: http://lo-portal.us/AOOo/aoo-podling-200x70.png (note that was from earlier and the word Apache is a tad too large in that graphic..but ok for

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: However, I would request that we be careful about the branding on the forums, since they are part of the Apache project.  For example, the titles of the

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-06 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi drew, On Saturday, 2011-08-06 11:27:14 -0400, drew wrote: Ok - here is a possible footer http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/c/cc/Aoo-OOo-Comm-Forum-footer.png nitpick The gulls should be above the Open, not Apache.

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-06 Thread Ingrid von der Mehden
Am 06.08.2011 17:50, schrieb drew: On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi drew, On Saturday, 2011-08-06 11:27:14 -0400, drew wrote: Ok - here is a possible footer http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/c/cc/Aoo-OOo-Comm-Forum-footer.png nitpick The gulls should be

RE: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
No, I don't believe the standalone use of the feather is appropriate yet. The full footer has the proper incubator symbol on the other end. The adjusted figure with the gulls over Open seems fine, since it is part of the symbolic recognition for OpenOffice.org. The asymmetry does not seem

RE: OOo4Kids / OOoLight support ( Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 I think being inviting is a good idea with regard to specialized topics such as this. We should put out the welcome mat for specific ones, such as OOo4Kids, that we know about and especially that we have contributors for. It does mean there needs to be a place to land for visitors who

RE: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Afterthought: We cannot just blissfully replace copyright notices, either. It doesn't work like that. So we need to look at the footers we are replacing and ensure that we are not crossing a line with our new one. This may mean we can't do it wholesale. - Dennis -Original Message-

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Terry Ellison te...@ellisons.org.uk wrote: On 05/08/11 08:10, eric b wrote: Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : Yes, it will continue to be inclusive for all OpenOffice derivatives. So I'm still wondering why OOo4Kids and OOoLight are yet not

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Christian Lohmaier cl...@openoffice.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a reasonable

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread eric b
Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : Yes, it will continue to be inclusive for all OpenOffice derivatives. So I'm still wondering why OOo4Kids and OOoLight are yet not listed ... Regards, Eric Bachard -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project:

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Christian, * 2011/8/5 Christian Lohmaier cl...@openoffice.org: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a reasonable consensus for the

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Terry Ellison
On 05/08/11 08:10, eric b wrote: Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : Yes, it will continue to be inclusive for all OpenOffice derivatives. So I'm still wondering why OOo4Kids and OOoLight are yet not listed ... Eric, The short answer is no once has asked or the demand isn't

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread TerryE
snip ... we run two closed sub-forums: one EN - Forum Issues http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=69sid=da1779e4dd6562bf9cbbc0efd49c1292 for discussing policy issues, and one Site - Forum Administration

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread eric b
Hi Terry, Le 5 août 11 à 12:08, Terry Ellison a écrit : On 05/08/11 08:10, eric b wrote: Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : Yes, it will continue to be inclusive for all OpenOffice derivatives. So I'm still wondering why OOo4Kids and OOoLight are yet not listed ...

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Terry Ellison
Eric, A quick overall response. You have accounts on the EN and FR forums. Why not raise this as a general issue on the EN forums? I am sure that the guys/gals would be willing to support this broadening if it's clear that we can find volunteers who have the knowledge and are willing put

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Eric; I agree OOo4Kids and OOolight deserve a space in the forums, I was not aware about them but they are very interesting and it's the kind of things we really want to see stronger with an Apache Project. Something to think about is if they deserve a special forum for themselves. You know

OOo4Kids / OOoLight support ( Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-05 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 14:22 +0200, eric b wrote: snip Let's try a different approach: if the item exists on the forums, there will be _de_facto_ a support ? (yet the chicken egg issue .. ). Hi Eric, It's hard to disagree with that - I'd just add, it's a case of lack of a champion versus

Website Privacy Policy ( was: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-05 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 21:44 -0400, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 18:01 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: snip 5 - Currently the site references a Privacy Policy statement on the Oracle web site - will need to lockdown exactly where this now needs to point for Apache. a) Create

Re: OOo4Kids / OOoLight support ( Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-05 Thread David McKay
On 05/08/11 18:56, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: Hi all, 2011.08.05. 18:41 keltezéssel, drew írta: On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 14:22 +0200, eric b wrote: snip Let's try a different approach: if the item exists on the forums, there will be _de_facto_ a support ? (yet the chicken egg issue .. ). Hi

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 12:31 AM, schrieb Andy Brown: drew wrote: Hi Dave, et al 6 - Acquire new logo(s) for footer and proper link reference. (currently the footer also has an Oracle logo and links to the Oracle Open Office site - I'm thinking a generic Apache logo and link to Apache.org. Any

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 00:55 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/06/2011 12:31 AM, schrieb Andy Brown: drew wrote: Hi Dave, et al 6 - Acquire new logo(s) for footer and proper link reference. (currently the footer also has an Oracle logo and links to the Oracle Open Office site -

RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I suggest paying attention to the branding requirements for podlings, and use of the Apache Incubator logo: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html - Dennis -Original Message- From: drew [mailto:d...@baseanswers.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 16:17 To:

Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread drew
Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a reasonable consensus for the Apache OpenOffice podling to facilitate continuity of service to the OpenOffice.org Community Fourms located at

RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 and nice work items. One thing: Put simply, any voting on non-personnel matters is here on ooo-dev. Anyone can vote, the PPMC-member votes are the binding ones. Better yet is if we find consensus and don't require a vote at all. Special karma (e.g., authorizing administrator rights) is

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a reasonable consensus for the Apache OpenOffice podling to facilitate continuity of service to

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 02:04 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a reasonable consensus for the

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Yes, it will continue to be inclusive for all OpenOffice derivatives. Cheers, Pedro. On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 02:04:49 +0200, Christian Lohmaier cl...@openoffice.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to try and move this particular item to

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 18:01 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: snip Howdy Dave, Alright - Actions items here then IMO. 1 - Create a page on the wiki (which one?) with the following: The names of potential system administrators - Terry Ellison [A second admin TBD] (The site has

RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: drew [mailto:d...@baseanswers.com] Sent: Friday, 5 August 2011 11:44 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 18:01 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: snip

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: There is also an INFRA JIRA issue tracker. Dave do you have a number for this issue? No particular issue. Just that the tracker for Infrastructure is here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA Whether a jira

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: drew [mailto:d...@baseanswers.com] Sent: Friday, 5 August 2011 11:44 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers On Thu,

RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-04 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 12:21 +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote: snip Alright - Actions items here then IMO. 1 - Create a page on the wiki (which one?) with the following: The names of potential system administrators - Terry Ellison [A second admin TBD] (The site has