Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If there is a Latex to man ir info, shouldn't be too bad. > There are 800 pages in the Admin Reference Yes, and most of them need significant work to update. Changing the format of the documentation is only about 10% of the actual work that needs to

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's what you won't have in the POD's: Please note that all I'm trying to do is produce man pages. That means a man page for each command or subcommand and a man page for each configuration file. I'm not trying to duplicate the installation instructio

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Thank you. I have committed a fix for this and it will be available in the next release. Jeffrey Altman Scott Williams wrote: > At 12:40 PM 6/10/2005 -0700, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >> Please send the contents of the messages for one loop > > > Each loop emits 2 messages only: > > while[TRU

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Scott Williams
At 12:40 PM 6/10/2005 -0700, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Please send the contents of the messages for one loop Each loop emits 2 messages only: while[TRUE] LogonOption[0], ServiceAutoStart[0] AFS AfsLogon - Test Service Running. Scott Williams wrote: > At 09:11 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, Jeffrey Altm

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Latex.pm will output any format you tell it to either via the xml in __DATA__ or by editing it directly. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:41 PM To: Russ Allbery; openafs-info@openafs.org

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, June 10, 2005 04:37:18 PM -0700 ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: E-mail directly with questions. I have a better idea. There is a mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED], set up for discussion related to working on the documentation. I'd much rather see active discussion there th

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, June 10, 2005 03:25:24 PM -0700 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So that people know, if I write the man pages I'll write them all in POD, based initially on the web page reference manual, and then use pod2man to convert them to man pages. One of the many pod2html converte

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Here's what you won't have in the POD's: 1. Verbatim text - particularly multiline (very useful). The verbatim text has multiple fonts and boldface to emphasize the point being made in the text. 2. Hyperlinks 3. Color 4. Indexing and tables of contents 5. Any other feature Latex supports that POD

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
If there is a Latex to man ir info, shouldn't be too bad. There are 800 pages in the Admin Reference tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chas williams - CONTRACTOR Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:21 PM To: Esther Filderman Cc: openafs

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
IBM.htm -> HTML is what was sent I n a tar file to open afs bugs. Html will just be a bear to update if new items are added and need to be indexed or hyperlinked. instance. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Esther Filderman Sent: Frida

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'll mail Alf and ask if there's anything newer than the last time I > looked, and start plugging away at this. I now have in my hot little hands a tarball that should make a good starting point, and I look it over and submit it to openafs-bugs for inclu

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Esther Filderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/10/05, chas williams - CONTRACTOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> is there any hope of someone doing something with the man pages? >> yes, i am a dinosaur, i still like man pages. > I think Russ Allbery was working on man pages a while ago. Oh, Ru

Re: [OpenAFS] loopback not installing

2005-06-10 Thread David Bear
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:58:43PM -0400, Robbie Foust wrote: > David Bear wrote: > > >anyone know what conditions would prevent the loopback from > >installing? > > > >I tried using the openafs install to install the loopback, and that > >failed. Then I tried the windows way of using add hardware

Re: [OpenAFS] loopback not installing

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
David Bear wrote: > this is really a windows question but since afs installs the loopback, > and most windows administrators don't have a clue as to what it is... > > anyone know what conditions would prevent the loopback from > installing? > > I tried using the openafs install to install the lo

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Please send the contents of the messages for one loop Scott Williams wrote: > At 09:11 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >> What do you have the service set to? DISABLED or MANUAL? > > > manual (used OpenAFS UI to deselect auto service on restart) > > >> Have you turned on Integ

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Robert Banz
Esther Filderman wrote: On 6/10/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not the best way to go. It just happened to get done first on the second round of conversions. Yes, you've made your bias clear since you started this.

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/10/05, chas williams - CONTRACTOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there any hope of someone doing something with the man pages? > yes, i am a dinosaur, i still like man pages. > I think Russ Allbery was working on man pages a while ago. Oh, Russ, whatever happened? ___

Re: [OpenAFS] new logo for OpenAFS

2005-06-10 Thread Esther Filderman
The new logo was designed by Jessi Bencloski [benwhoski.com] and is owned by OpenAFS. It's also available on cra-- er, High Quality Merchandise on the OpenAFS CafePress store[all proceeds go to to fund OpenAFS]. On 6/7/05, Paul Blackburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to mention the n

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Esther Filderman writes: >available online. Requiring people to download giant postscript or >pdf files to look up one command is ludicrious. > >Making things look pretty is fine, but they also have to be usable. >In the end, HTML is likely going to be the most used

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/10/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not the > best way to go. It just happened to get done first on the second round of > conversions. Yes, you've made your bias clear since you started this. While I sincerely appre

Re: [OpenAFS] loopback not installing

2005-06-10 Thread Robbie Foust
David Bear wrote: anyone know what conditions would prevent the loopback from installing? I tried using the openafs install to install the loopback, and that failed. Then I tried the windows way of using add hardware -- that failed.. When you say "failed", what exactly do you mean? What err

[OpenAFS] loopback not installing

2005-06-10 Thread David Bear
this is really a windows question but since afs installs the loopback, and most windows administrators don't have a clue as to what it is... anyone know what conditions would prevent the loopback from installing? I tried using the openafs install to install the loopback, and that failed. Then I t

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Scott Williams
At 09:11 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, Jeffrey Altman wrote: What do you have the service set to? DISABLED or MANUAL? manual (used OpenAFS UI to deselect auto service on restart) Have you turned on Integrated Login logging to the Windows Event Log? If so, what does it report? If not, please do so.

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS source rpm for RHEL4

2005-06-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:10:23AM -0400, Jerome Asselin wrote: > Is there a rpm source for OpenAFS on RHEL4? > I would like to test the latest unstable. I'm working on updating my packages from to work on RHEL4/CentOS4/FC4. Should be something there next week

[OpenAFS] [FOR TESTING] OpenAFS 1.3.84 RPMs for RHEL4 (i386, x86_64)

2005-06-10 Thread Christopher Allen Wing
I updated the RHEL4 RPMs to the 1.3.84 release. I made the following changes: - added the latest RHEL4 kernel (2.6.9-11) - removed old errata kernel (2.6.9-5.0.3) - updated CellServDB to latest version from central.org - The older init script tried to find the liba

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS source rpm for RHEL4

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, June 10, 2005 11:10:23 AM -0400 Jerome Asselin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a rpm source for OpenAFS on RHEL4? I would like to test the latest unstable. Putting together full official binary releases of OpenAFS requires quite a bit of effort on the part of a lot of peopl

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Now you now why its taken so long... If you need your own AFS documentation it is worth the effort. One could add "And put custom scripts and hints in a Wiki-Wiki". tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Banz Sent: Friday, June 10,

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Robert Banz
Recompiling with the Springer Verlag sving6.sty document class produces textbook quality compositions with automatically numbered tables of contents, indexes and appendicies. The current version uses the article class to support the hyperref package and the downstream converters. Just going to

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
What do you have the service set to? DISABLED or MANUAL? Have you turned on Integrated Login logging to the Windows Event Log? If so, what does it report? If not, please do so. Regkey: [HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TransarcAFSDaemon\Parameters] Value : TraceOption Type : DWORD 1

[OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not the best way to go. It just happened to get done first on the second round of conversions. Previous conversions using standard Latex with \label and \ref in place of the hyperlinks and using "if then else" to include only the a

[OpenAFS] Windows client - login hang?

2005-06-10 Thread Scott Williams
Hello all, I was wondering if anyone has observed this and/or can duplicate... With OpenAFS 1.3.84 installed on an up-to-date patched Windows XP box, I have observed a significant delay logging in when the afsd service is set *not* to start automatically at boot time (seems fine if the service

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Derrick J Brashear
You were clear, i just wasn't awake. IIRC they sshould all be lstat. Hopefully hasn't decided to just remove them all in the intervening 2 hours. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Tony D'Amato wrote: > Okay, that's fine. Most of the patches are casts (the MIPSpro compilers > seem to be notorious about making sure casts are being used and complain > if they are not). However, one of the patches is something like this > one, which fixes a finger check in afs_vnop_rename.c: >

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
ted creedon wrote: > Sources sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anyone else interested can respond. It's a 3.5M targz file. > > tedc > Ted: You already had an existing ticket in RT for this project. (#2830) You should attach the documentation plus instructions to that ticket. FYI, the new ticket y

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jim Rees wrote: > It's actually worse than that. This code makes no sense at all: > > && (!(fstat(AFSDIR_BOZLOG_FILE, &sb) == 0) && > (S_ISFIFO(sb.st_mode))) > > Even if you change it to stat, what it seems to be saying (in a very > ofuscated way) is, "if the file doesn't exist and

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Tony D'Amato
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: Derrick J Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tony D'Amato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org > Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82 > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Tony D'Amato wrote: > > > I'm compiling OpenAFS 1.3.82 on

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Sources sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone else interested can respond. It's a 3.5M targz file. tedc Directions: Install tidy from the targz file. To convert the IBM.htm files, cd to each directory and run ./convert.sh convert.sh: rm *.dvi *.tex *.aux *.out *.log *.pdf *.tex *.tidy *.stp* *.old

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS source rpm for RHEL4

2005-06-10 Thread Jerome Asselin
Is there a rpm source for OpenAFS on RHEL4? I would like to test the latest unstable. Thanks. -- Jerome Asselin, Agent de recherche, RHCE CHUM -- Centre de recherche 3875 rue St-Urbain, 3e etage // Montreal QC H2W 1V1 Tel.: 514-890-8000 Poste 15914; Fax: 514-412-7106 ___

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.3.84 oops & kernel panic

2005-06-10 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Dimitris Zilaskos writes: >Jun 10 05:00:07 system kernel: kernel BUG at inode.c:1204! lets try again. i forgot why the fix worked for 2.6. this should get it. AFS_GLOCK needs to held during the i_state/I_CLEAR changes so that another afs hold/rele cycle cant jump

Re: [OpenAFS] Cache file system (ext2) corruption with 1.3.84

2005-06-10 Thread Dr A V Le Blanc
I wrote: > I am running openafs 1.3.84 on Debian sarge machines with kernel > 2.6.11.11 and openafs-client 1.3.81-3sarge1 from the Debian repository; > the kernel and openafs.ko modules are compiled with gcc 2.95.4 from > sarge. On Fri 10 Jun 2005 at 01:30:58 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Tony D'Amato wrote: > I'm compiling OpenAFS 1.3.82 on SGI IRIX 6.5.22 using the SGI MIPSpro > 7.3.1.3m compilers, and I've run into a few syntax errors. Here's a > small part of one of them - I replaced fstat with stat in a couple of > modules because the compiler complained. Here's the patch. >

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Jim Rees
It's actually worse than that. This code makes no sense at all: && (!(fstat(AFSDIR_BOZLOG_FILE, &sb) == 0) && (S_ISFIFO(sb.st_mode))) Even if you change it to stat, what it seems to be saying (in a very ofuscated way) is, "if the file doesn't exist and is a fifo." If it doesn't

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Jim Rees
Uh. I don't believe you don't have fstat. What was the actual complaint? What he meant to say was, "I replaced fstat with stat in a couple of modules because the code was obviously wrong." I can't find AFSDIR_BOZLOG_FILE but the following line calls strcpy on it, so I assume it's a string. fst

[OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Tony D'Amato
I'm compiling OpenAFS 1.3.82 on SGI IRIX 6.5.22 using the SGI MIPSpro 7.3.1.3m compilers, and I've run into a few syntax errors. Here's a small part of one of them - I replaced fstat with stat in a couple of modules because the compiler complained. Here's the patch. I've got some other patches whi

[OpenAFS] new logo for OpenAFS

2005-06-10 Thread Paul Blackburn
Just wanted to mention the new OpenAFS logo and congratulate the originator. Nice 1! -- cheers paul <>

Re: [OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Tony D'Amato wrote: I'm compiling OpenAFS 1.3.82 on SGI IRIX 6.5.22 using the SGI MIPSpro 7.3.1.3m compilers, and I've run into a few syntax errors. Here's a small part of one of them - I replaced fstat with stat in a couple of modules because the compiler complained. Here's

[OpenAFS] fstat vs stat in 1.3.82

2005-06-10 Thread Tony D'Amato
I'm compiling OpenAFS 1.3.82 on SGI IRIX 6.5.22 using the SGI MIPSpro 7.3.1.3m compilers, and I've run into a few syntax errors. Here's a small part of one of them - I replaced fstat with stat in a couple of modules because the compiler complained. Here's the patch. I've got some other patches whi

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, ted creedon wrote: 1. Explain "codify". If you mean "tell us what tricks we need to know" that's why I suggested a BOF at the conference. Is it a small set of same or similar transforms which can be scripted? 2. Hand edits will be required but more importantly, trial "l

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
1. Explain "codify". If you mean "tell us what tricks we need to know" that's why I suggested a BOF at the conference. 2. Hand edits will be required but more importantly, trial "latex foo.tex"'s will have to be run and that's where the inconsistent (and semi-undocumented) handling of special char

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Please read my message. I asked where do I send it to? I don't think the average user is going to learn enough about Latex or the documentation to be effective. There are hundreds of separate files in the IBM documentation. Who will proof the edits? Or check the technical accuracy, expecially on

Re: [OpenAFS] Cache file system (ext2) corruption with 1.3.84 and kernel 2.6.11.11

2005-06-10 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Dr A V Le Blanc wrote: As a matter of interest, machines with kernel 2.4.31 and compiled with gcc 2.95.4 are showing the same problem. It seems that openafs 1.3.84 corrupts cache partitions pretty reliably. Machines up for 10 minutes or so don't show this, but all machines

Re: [OpenAFS] best way to recover after HD breakdown? - new problem

2005-06-10 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > > > On Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:14:14 AM +0200 Lars Schimmer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I made the vos dump on a machine with enough HD space out of AFS (to dump >> a 15gig volume you need some space). While resto

Re: [OpenAFS] Cache file system (ext2) corruption with 1.3.84 and kernel 2.6.11.11

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
A V Le Blanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am running openafs 1.3.84 on Debian sarge machines with kernel > 2.6.11.11 and openafs-client 1.3.81-3sarge1 from the Debian repository; > the kernel and openafs.ko modules are compiled with gcc 2.95.4 from > sarge. That's an odd choice of compilers.

Re: [OpenAFS] Cache file system (ext2) corruption with 1.3.84 and kernel 2.6.11.11

2005-06-10 Thread Dr A V Le Blanc
On 8 Jun 2005 at 08:55:09 +0100, Dr A V Le Blanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am running openafs 1.3.84 on Debian sarge machines with kernel > 2.6.11.11 and openafs-client 1.3.81-3sarge1 from the Debian repository; > the kernel and openafs.ko modules are compiled with gcc 2.95.4 from > sarge. > >

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.3.84 oops & kernel panic

2005-06-10 Thread Dimitris Zilaskos
can you try this patch against 1.3.84. the work done by osi_clear_inode() is now delayed until ->destroy_inode() which is available in both 2.4 and I got a kernel panic at 5 am . The only thing recorded was : Jun 10 05:00:07 system kernel: kernel BUG at inode.c:1204! Jun 10 05:00:07