No. Not without some coding to integrate both, which you can easily do
if that's what you want.
On 3/19/2012 10:13 AM, Argus wrote:
So is it possible to have LocalAuthorizationServicesConnector AND
RemoteAuthorizationServicesConnector running at the same time or not?
Am 17.03.2012 22:26, schr
+1 on this.
On 3/2/2012 6:51 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
Hi folks. As we know, the space required for asset storage in
OpenSimulator grows continuously over time.
I think this is inevitable in a web-like virtual world - distributed
garbage collection is practically impossible. However, the
Did it work before for that many people?
On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Bernd wrote:
The other problem is the Groupmessage.
In GermanGrid, there is a group with over 500 members. If i send a
group
message, the server crashes.
I Don't know if it has to do with the new version of HG
Noted
Be
Noted
Bernd wrote:
>With the new HG Version the Offline IM's no longer works in my Grid...
>
>Message:
>System (busy response): Unable to send instant message. User is not logged
>in.
>
>
>
>>
>>>Diva Canto wrote:
>>>There's some improvements left to be done. Here's how it works currently.
>>>If
On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Ai Austin wrote:
I think going offline across grids is NOT yet pushing through to the
friends list... do you believe it is?
It should be working if ppl are on their own grids. So If I'm on mine
and you are on yours, and we are friends, we should see each other'
Sergiy,
The software architecture of OpenSim is such that it is relatively easy
for people to develop all sorts of architectural variants. So the answer
to the question "can OpenSim do X?", in most cases is "yes, if you care
to do that variant." (except perhaps your 1st questions)
As for the
Yes, please! This sounds great!
I've been swamped with teaching and grading. Finally, it's about to be
over this week, so I'll have cycles for the release at the end of the
week.
On Mar 21, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
Hi Diva. I'm just coming into a window where I'll have
Again, *please* Kyle and others: do not send any specifics to this
list, or I'm going to turn moderation on and ban this thread altogether.
Some of us do not want to be exposed to absolutely anything regarding
any patents. You're all doing a disservice to the project if you
continue this th
PLEASE DO NOT POST LINKS TO PATENTS ON THIS LIST.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Mark Malewski wrote:
> Seems like Mark is upset lol
Just sick and tired of people trying to make FALSE patent claims on
OpenSource software, and attempting to claim "inventions" based on
OpenSource software.
J
We have been discussing these issues internally for a while. The main
issue, from an organizational perspective, is that the project is not
part of any official organization, and, as such, cannot take signed
contributors' agreements that would do away with the strict
restrictions that we ha
The OpenSimulator project has absolutely nothing to do with Linden
Lab, aside from the fact that it includes one plugin that implements
the protocol that their open-sourced viewer understands. In the
extreme worst case scenario, if code in OpenSim was proven to come
from the GPL viewer, Ope
consistent REST-style handlers for
doing these things... These handlers don't exist yet...
On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
Something to keep in mind:
For the time being, we're talking about URLs that would likely GET
people's profiles -- that'd be th
Something to keep in mind:
For the time being, we're talking about URLs that would likely GET
people's profiles -- that'd be the only time at which these global
identifiers would be invoked.
Again, HG authentication has nothing to do with this, it doesn't even
use these particular referenc
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To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Super easy question
I'm just explaining the mechanics of the process. If Bri or anyo
I'm just explaining the mechanics of the process. If Bri or anyone
else here has enough time and/or resources to do that kind of
integration, by all means do it. Just because Havok is a no go for
the stock distribution of OpenSim doesn't mean that that kind of work
should be discouraged.
The more I think about this, the stronger I feel about Wifi not being
included in core. It really doesn't belong there.
The goal here is ease of installation. That's the goal; the means to
achieve it vary.
Not all addons are equal when it comes to installation overhead. Many
(most) OpenSi
I'm going to produce a zip file with Wifi on it, along with
installation instructions. I think it will be _very_extremelly_ easy
to install... as long as people stick to tagged releases. People
running intermediary OpenSim code will have the get source and compile
it. That's life.
(It too
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Michael Cerquoni wrote:
Justin is correct, this functionality is not part of OpenSimulator
core code, its only in Divas release, i do not think the intention
is to put it into core either, but i could be mistaken about that,
maybe diva can clarify that better.
Sure, no problem. (It's hard to catch up with you guys... it's fresh
out of the oven, and still needs some love; don't use the latest
source yet, because there's a tricky bug deep down the the C# web
server code we're using that may cause pain :)
Looking at that Wiki page, I see some config
This concerns some internals of the simulator itself. When Adam is
done with this, not much will be immediately visible to users. But it
will allow OpenSim to play well with viewers that have completely
different ways of representing of 3D objects (e.g. meshes).
http://lists.berlios.de/pipe
Justin,
Preferably in master, so that the bugs are fixed there too.
We can then cherry-pick back.
Thanks!
Crista
On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
On 14/06/10 21:13, d...@metaverseink.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
0.7-rc1 is out. You can grab it from the usual place:
http://
BTW, I guess my email also serves as a statement of voluntarism to act
as release 0.7 coordinator -- unless one of you wants to do it.
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
d...@metaverseink.com wrote:
Hi all,
I
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
d...@metaverseink.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to try to make a list of things that need to happen
for 0.7 to be tagged. Here's the start. Please add things that you
think are missing. Note that this is not about fixing all problems
Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
(repost to cut down message length)
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master
branch updated. r/12443
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:30:52 +
From: Justin Clark-Casey
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Refere
Wow! Thanks for forwarding this.
I replied to Tim off the list. Will keep everyone posted on what comes
out, if anything.
Melvin Carvalho wrote:
FYI -- A message to the W3C Technical Architecture Group, from Tim
Berners Lee
If there's any feedback on this I'd be happy to pass it on.
---
You're making up your own definition of p2p in the context of opensim,
your definition being "an opensim server and a viewer both running on
the same box". That's not what p2p is, generally, although one could
imagine a distribution that would have those as a unit. For "true" p2p
VWs see Op
es everything up, which is unlikely) but regardless
it never
> hurts to have backups and consistent snapshots.
>
> Mercurial maintains a complete copy of history in each clone, so
it creates
> numerous "backups" (and lots of redundancy). By having a
dedicated server
&
On Feb 22, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
You're right - I don't have any numbers so perhaps no-one is doing
that. I took the liberty of copying this over to the users list to
see if any hands are raised there.
If SQLite is just being used for single person/demonstration
in
Yeah, we could have done that in theory. In practice, we're all still
fairly ignorant when it comes to using git, and we've all had close
encounters with git disasters. Melanie is the one keeping branches in
sync, she has spent a lot of time resolving conflicts by hand, helping
out the mess
There is already some documentation about how to upgrade. It's similar
to the last upgrade.
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/ROBUST#An_Example_Conversion_From_URM_To_R
Let me know if that doesn't answer your question.
On Feb 9, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> I'm primarily addressin
Conspiracy theories aside, there's nothing mysterious here. Someone
dropped us a link on Monday morning on the IRC to a bunch of patent
applications filed within the last 2 years by a large corporation (not
Microsoft) which seemed to follow closely some technical details of
OpenSim. That, i
On Jan 8, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> Writing good documentation is just as much a part of a good
> programmer's role as writing the code
> itself.
Documentation is superlinear with the code.
Good documentation is not just a collection of disconnected articles
covering the
t; Hi,
>
> the other night, Meadhbh told me that the persistent accounts were
> not intended. So that's cleared up.
>
> Melanie
>
> Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > With this latest refactoring came the new Simulation service,
> > rep
David,
With this latest refactoring came the new Simulation service,
represented by ISimulationService. Please take a look at it. The data
structures that it currently takes for creating and updating agents
are still incomplete (one of them needs more data for foreign users),
but I think
On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Mic Bowman wrote:
> The interfaces have always existed. They were undocumented &
> scattered across files, but you can't have a distributed system
> without interfaces. What you've done is make them "less" internal,
> slightly better documented, and moved to a si
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Teravus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Melanie wrote:
>>>> Heck, I don't even have a single box left with Mono old enough to
>>>> run SQlite.
>>>>
>>
On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
>
> Could I ask what is being done about the message service? This is
> still in its pre-ROBUST form and
> I don't think that we can tag 0.7 without converting this service.
Simple: the messaging server will disappear :)
It was never a me
This is not a keep it / kill it discussion. The SQLite connector is
there. This is about someone stepping up to do the required
improvement work. Neither Mel nor I nor Justin will do it. If no one
does it, that connector will be outdated and unusable -- that's the
definition of 'dead code'.
I think there's already an option for not loading up the library stuff
-- at least there is one in OpenSim.ini. It can load once, then ppl
can turn it off.
I like Adam's idea of replacing the existing Library mechanism with
IAR altogether. That would make it simpler. That requires the exact
We need to do something new because of all the metadada associated
with this kind of content, but we don't need to reinvent the wheel
from scratch:
http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/tar1.html
There's more options in tar than one would care to implement here, but
they are certainly a good s
Sorry that it didn't work out for you. Good luck with whatever other
platform you choose.
This is a mailing list for discussing technical issues, so please take
the personal drama elsewhere. All personal dramas generate interest,
but that doesn't mean that they're appropriate for this mailing
Sorry this went to the -dev list by mistake. Please ignore.
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dr scofield wrote:
to me this is another piece from the legal FUD department (reminiscent
of the "money" discussions).
It's very easy to brush difficult issues under the rug of "I don't care,
this is ethics, not technical, hence it's FUD". You're entitled to that
stand. Give your -1 on what
I'd say what you want is Region Module that creates and manipulates
the entities.
I've done this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=kJNDcurLP1w&feature=fvst
(and hopefully will be doing a lot more of it, because that's fun)
Unfortunately no one here has had time to write any documentation
This is also the case for all the new connector modules.
I'm definitely +1 on solving the problem underlying Melanie's proposal
in some way. Modules are now much more important than they used to be
[and this is a good thing]. Melanie's concrete proposal seems fine.
My feeling is that there's st
What is BUST?
Also, is there already documentation about the new server shell? We need
to document it before retiring the old servers. I'd do it, but I'm
completely out of context these days, so it won't happen [on my side]
for another couple of weeks.
Melanie wrote:
> At this time, yes. But ch
Sean Dague wrote:
Stefan Andersson wrote:
I would argue that opening up for (reasonable) subclassing is a very core ideal
of opensim-as-an-API.
And on the subject; somewhere in 0.7 land, I would argue that we have to
rethink the whole scene/SOG/SOP bit - right now, state and behavior is
i
For "grid mode" things are not as you describe. I can tell you how
things are done currently, but this may/can change very easily, and in
fact things are quite different if C is Grider.
For the normal LL client, and as of now: C never talks to G/A/I
directly; it talks to U and to Rs only. Upon
There are two parts to the new architecture:
1) New configurations for OpenSim.exe, the region server
2) New Asset, Inventory [and soon other] servers
Let me start by number 2: don't do it yet. There is no need to do it,
since the regions are still compatible with the regular UGAIM servers,
Ope
+1 on this, especially separating the login functionality from
everything else.
(I'll be back working on opensim shortly; I've been traveling and had
some technical difficulties at the destination)
Melanie wrote:
> After breaking my head over this for a few weeks, I believe I have
> figured ou
obably seem a bit out of place here.
>
> John
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
>> boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Cristina Videira Lopes
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:40 PM
>> To:
x27;s fine. if you want to do
> it on sldev, that's fine.
>
> so... to recap... OAuth definitely has a place in OGP. OpenID? sure.
> there's lots of stuff we could do there, but probably not IN OGP
> itself. OpenSocial... sure. if there's interest.
>
> -cheers
>
Inifinity sent me a very nice private message, which, because it was
private, I'm not going to forward here. But the bottom line of his
nice message could use some public discussion. Essentially Infinity
is suggesting that we move towards getting the Hypergrid work into
the IETF, through th
eople
interested in helping you succeed with making OGP an official internet
standard.
Infinity Linden (Meadhbh S. Hamrick) wrote:
> Okay, so I'll take that as a no. The door's always open if you change your
> mind.
>
> Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
>
>
>>
erb) anything.
And I would love to see more involvement from LL on this list.
All the best.
Crista
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Ope
Another thing we could do to improve the state of comms would be to have
voice meetings once in a while. I hate meetings as much as everyone
else, but voice meetings tend to be much faster than email discussions
back & forth. Hey -- we could even use Freeswitch with a cool virtual
world system
Indeed! Thanks, Sempuki, this is something I've been wanting to do, but
had no time to do it. I'll take a pass at it, and correct some mistakes
there and add to it.
Melanie is changing some of the XMLRPC interfaces to REST, that will
make things a lot more consistent. But it's not done yet.
St
I'm trying to understand what it is that we are supposed to secure,
because security depends entirely on that :-)
I've seen way too many talks/chats/posts/blogs talking about a Web of
VWs in some form, while making the unwritten assumption that the concept
of "grid" (aka Virtual World unit, or
mid April and have lots of
announcements coming so watch http://metaverse.stanford.edu/ for updates.
Hope you can make it!
Cheers,
Henrik
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Cristina Videira Lopes
mailto:lo...@ics.uci.edu>> wrote:
Hi Henrik,
We meet about a year ago at a w
Hi everyone,
As some of you know, I've been working on a client whose goal is to
explore architectural options for a safe HyperGrid. This client comes
from a discussion here earlier this month about security and
authentication, and from the conclusion that there is no chance for a
secure decen
To get the creative juices flowing for the workshop on Friday, I started
the Talk page in the Hypergrid wiki page. Please add your thoughts there.
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Talk:Hypergrid
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Duh. Now I can say:
secondlife://ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu:9007/
:-)
Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
Dahlia Trimble wrote:
is there a hypergrid link for the meeting location?
ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu 9007
It's in coords 7000, 7000 so directly reachable from OSGrid. People
coming
Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> is there a hypergrid link for the meeting location?
ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu 9007
It's in coords 7000, 7000 so directly reachable from OSGrid. People
coming from lower grids can use Gateway 3000 first
(ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu 9003), then hop to Gateway 7000.
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Hi,
We're planning a first meeting to talk about defining a roadmap for
Hypergrid interoperability in OpenSim worlds. The meeting will be this
Friday at 10am PST. We'll meet in the UCI Grid, Gateway 7000, until it
crashes :-); then we'll move to an IRC channel.
Note that this is not intended t
Teravus Ovares wrote:
> To the 'So I guess I don't understand what specific case you're
> referring to?', See last Tuesday's Zero meeting for several references
> to the pitfalls of Hypergrid (and it's not just Zero saying things to
> criticize it. It's our users as well. That was a widely positi
.
Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
But it strikes me that now, if you wanted to retain your regions assets locally, you could set up your region as a
hypergrid enabled region, as Hypergrid regions use the local asset store (there is conceptually no global).
In view of this
Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> But it strikes me that now, if you wanted to retain your regions assets
> locally, you could set up your region as a
> hypergrid enabled region, as Hypergrid regions use the local asset store
> (there is conceptually no global).
>
> In view of this, I'd like to comple
Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> So to clarify, does this facility mean that one can teleport to a hyperlinked
> region using a url even if the region
> owner has not explicitly set up that link?
>
>
Yes.
These dynamic links are intended to be temporary (although I haven't
done the expiration par
Hyperlinks are *uni-directional*. A link to B doesn't imply the link back.
Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao wrote:
Well, I tested again from scratch, and creating in the inventory some
news items before change to the Hypergrid way.
With that configuration can't see in the map the sim in my local
That sounds like (1) your inventory server could not be reached (that
"Could not teleport" thing after you got there); (2) your other servers
(user server) also could not be reached.
Please see here:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid#Installing
Also, make sure you have a home region set.
U
Mic Bowman wrote:
> we have two simulators with one region each running with hypergrid
> turned on. we want "foreign" users to go through one of the gateways
> to get into our grid. i know that the users can freely teleport around
> our grid once they have hypergrid teleported to a gateway region.
That's because you came in as 127.0.0.1:8002...
You need to use an IP address that's reacheable from the outside.
Whatever you see in your inventory is the result of viewer cache.
Paul Fishwick wrote:
> Thanks, btw, I am at Gateway 3000 (the UCI grid located at 3000,3000,
> and there are some unu
window,
though.
-p
Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
Forgot to say this.
If you want to experience this right now without installing, you can
try it in UCI's regions in OSGrid, "UCI Welcome" and "UC Irvine".
Kyle wrote:
Amazing! Cannot wait to try it soon..
Stefan Andersson wrote:
Kind of crazy idea here, but how is 'landmarks' actually stored on the
server and used by the client? Shouldn't we be able to store grid and
region endpoint in a landmark?
I mean, if the landmark contains the region name, it could just as
well be stored with target gri
Mic Bowman wrote:
> Is there any way to report on the grid coordinates for the linked
> region so you can tell whether the link is within the acceptable 4096
> range? something like gridinfo...
>
Yes, I'm finally going to add that check in the link-region machinery.
It's really simple.
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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:49 PM
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] TP protocol handle
Thanks all for the pointers. I now understand a lot better what these
handles are all
will) come and go.
Feedback welcome!
Crista
Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to take HG TPs to the next logical step and support dynamic
> links, that is, the ability for the user to simply click on something
> like this
>
> http://ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu:9003/
&
re (I send it before but too much heave
to be acepted for the mail list):
http://www.sitereportcard.com/cgi-bin/im.pl
and anex to thi mail mi opensim.ini and the region's xml too
Muchas gracias
2009/1/31 Cristina Videira Lopes :
Make sure you have a home region set in your home grid, and th
Make sure you have a home region set in your home grid, and that that
machine can be accessed from the outside (i.e. must be an external IP
/domain name). Then you can always go home with the normal home key combo.
(as usual with all TPs currently, make sure to wait 15-20 secs between TPs)
Gusta
Thanks to being away from my usual development environment, I was able
to produce a situation where RequestInventoryForUser always fails for HG
TPs, because of an erroneous IP address in some table. Not just
inventory lookup fails, but the TP itself sort of fails.
This made me look closer to R
Lc wrote:
> the //slurl is an assiociation handled at the web browser level.
> it's like downloading a zip that run the unpacker.
Yes and no.
It's handled at the web browser level when the string happens on a
normal web browser.
But when the string happens in chat in the SL viewer, the SL viewer
Dr Scofield wrote:
Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
Dirk,
How do I make the SL viewer underline these things?
I still don't know what packet is involved, but I can see that urls like
these
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Foo/
secondlife://Foo/
result in something being sent to the server que
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Hi,
I want to take HG TPs to the n
Hi,
I want to take HG TPs to the next logical step and support dynamic
links, that is, the ability for the user to simply click on something
like this
http://ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu:9003/
and be teleported there from anywhere on the Metaverse.
The question is: what should these handles look li
On this topic, I am involved with a company that is doing exactly that
-- using virtual worlds (OpenSim in particular) to model urban planning
projects.
The terraingen tool is part of that, but we're focusing on the dynamics
of urban areas, traffic mostly. You can see the beginnings of that in a
My experience with RESTComms, and having looked at the other modules in
there, is that most of those aren't really "modules" as in "optional
components", but as "the reference implementation of a required
interface that can be replaced with another implementation". For that
reason they can be s
It should be possible to have regions larger than 256, at least in
multiples of 256. The LL client assumes that as the size, and that is
hardocded all over the place (regionhandles etc), so if we continue to
use this client we need to live with that; but I strongly suspect it is
possible to tr
Hey Americo,
Those are beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
If all mistakes would end up like this, I'm looking forward to see more
mistakes :-)
Crista
PS The background story is that Americo deleted the panels I had in one
of the Gateways :-) They're back.
Americo Damasceno wrote:
I need to co
[changing from -users to -dev, due to not being able to access outgoing
email for my opensim-users account]
Americo Damasceno wrote:
Thanks, Diva.
I will use the "ucigrid04.nacs.uci.edu 9003". Like the central point
(128,128) that I will define in the tutorial like the "official
arriving p
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