[osol-discuss] Re: Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
For example, Will this group work on more opensource (S/T) Chinese fonts ? A great deal of efforts on S/T Chinese fonts have been done on the Linux front, particularly by a person in Taiwan who is best known as Firefly: http://firefly.idv.tw/test/Forum.php?Board=1 He is currently involved in

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-07-29 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Roy, Friday, July 29, 2005, 6:09:16 AM, you wrote: RTF I am telling you, point blank, based on both my experience within RTF the open source community and my research background in software RTF architecture, that OpenSolaris will fail to achieve the goals set RTF by Sun executives if you

[osol-discuss] Re: Soliciting feedback on Solaris x86/x64 New boot

2005-07-29 Thread Glenn
Personally I ran into a problem on intall referenced at http://www.sun.drydog.com/faq/5.html (5.7) Why does a Solaris install to a disk with valid, pre-existing fdisk partitions sometimes fail? With the long install, and the fdisk error I have not received before (bios year == 2002) on an

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-07-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some point, migrating to 6.0 and having a more usable free software stack will likely become the right decision. It will likely be less a headache than the SunOS 4-5 transition since OpenSolaris will serve as a beta-test for the new interfaces and

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Great to know the open-source does get some funding from Goverment. the opensource project really need funding support to get started or sustain itself. The Taiwan government set aside about $1M USD to sponsor opensource-related projects. The great majority of the money went to embedded Linux

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Laptop Power Management? GUI or Shell based?

2005-07-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I think my problem is related to the fact that I provided a wrong answer to the subnet question during installation. Netstat shows that my router info is all messed up (this machine was connected to a router, but the host was listed as the default gateway, and no gateway was provided for the

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread John Beck
Roy Right now, Sun has only exposed the done gate of OpenSolaris, which is Roy equivalent to throwing code over the wall. The reason I talk about that Roy wall is because one of the primary goals of the governance proposal is Roy to avoid a situation like that of Darwin, wherein the community is

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Laptop Power Management? GUI or Shell based?

2005-07-29 Thread Albertson, Brett
Your default router is usually found in the file /etc/defaultrouter and should contain a single IP address. Netmasks are setup using the /etc/netmasks file. That file should have a subnet, then a space or a tab, and then the netmask. If you have more than one network interface, you may

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Bart Smaalders
Roy T. Fielding wrote: I think continued use of teamware as the integration mechanism will prevent us from building a collaborative community. Only if we cannot make forks visible. Solaris engineers tend to use a workspace (fork) for a bug fix or two; making everyone's bug fix workspaces

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-29 Thread TJ Yang
This is the problem of opensource work, it only get hobby level of priority. for most ppl, work,family and lastly hobby come last. That's why I feel it is important to physically start a user community in a Chinese university. Sort of like killing two birds in one stone. I think the

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 11:44, Roy T. Fielding wrote: to collaborate as equals. I think continued use of teamware as the integration mechanism will prevent us from building a collaborative community. Teamware the tool and the way it is used inside Sun for the ON consolidation supports exactly

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-29 11:44]: Visibility is an essential aspect to collaboration and equal participation. Whether or not you believe that a group of developers in the larger OpenSolaris universe should have a choice about whether their ongoing work should be

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-07-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Al Hopper wrote: That's what I thought originally, but a lot of the posts I have seen are emphasizing the business decisions made by an ARC rather than the technical review. Where do you see this? When a choice is made to work on a major branch or not. I don't

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-07-29 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 28, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Bryan Cantrill wrote: For an operating system, the constraints of existing interfaces are a _technical_ problem, _not_ just a business problem. That is absolute rubbish. A technical problem is something for which

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-07-29 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Shawn Walker wrote: On 7/28/05, John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [stop, stop, you are bringing out the verbose monster in me!] snip You are advocating starting off the OpenSolaris community on a track that immediately abandons this core value. I disagree