[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-05 Thread UNIX admin
You got the point, there are too many Unix PMS. Variation is not diversity. Variation increase the cost of any engineering task. Oversight: there are so many UNIX software management systems out there because not only do those account for the packages on the system, they account for

[osol-discuss] fcinfo libHBAAPI

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello opensolaris-discuss, What are plans regarding open sourcing fcinfo command line utility and libHBAAPI library? I mostly interested in fcinfo command. -- Best regards, Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-05 Thread TJ Yang
This post from me contains English grammtical and typing errors.I trust the reader will be able to understand my point. I will be more careful and diligent to produce English sentences next time. tj This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-08-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Keith M. Wesolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I mean that mainline OpenSolaris has the greatest value to all if it retains compatibility. This can almost always be done in ways that do not prevent or stifle innovative development. In some cased (e.g. ksh) I would not call it retaining

Re: [osol-discuss] Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Kenny
To the OpenSolaris.org webmasters, Is there no Wiki on the opensolaris.org site that we could use for this - my only issue with something so core being discussed off-site is that it's likely to get lost... Doing a quick search on opensolaris.org I see reference to the page:

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread TJ Yang
To the OpenSolaris.org webmasters, Is there no Wiki on the opensolaris.org site that we could use for this - my only issue with something so core being discussed off-site is that it's likely to get lost... Hmm I pick mediawiki site even I am moinmoin user becuase mediawiki is most

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Kenny
I'd totally vote for moinmoin - my favourite Wiki, but I'm sure everyone has their own... Darren. TJ Yang wrote: To the OpenSolaris.org webmasters, Is there no Wiki on the opensolaris.org site that we could use for this - my only issue with something so core being discussed off-site is

Re: [osol-discuss] Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, TJ Yang wrote: There are many discussions happened recently on the matter of package management system on Solaris/OpenSolaris, I am glad to see many interests to address the issue of outdated PMS on Opensolaris. [...] TJ, The project goal states ... provide

Re: [osol-discuss] Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Eric Boutilier wrote: Albert White wrote a nice overview of Sun Update Connection technologies (in an OpenSolaris context) on his blog. See: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/albertw?entry=updaing_software_in_the_open Updaing? To die up? Btw, interesting comments there as

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-08-05 Thread John Plocher
Eric Boutilier wrote: On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Keith M. Wesolowski wrote: [...] From a technical standpoint, OpenSolaris and Solaris are the same... That's where I agree more with the opposing viewpoint Joerg and others +1 OpenSolaris (at this point in time) is a shared and sharable

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread Bob Palowoda
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, TJ Yang wrote: There are many discussions happened recently on the matter of package management system on Solaris/OpenSolaris, I am glad to see many interests to address the issue of outdated PMS on Opensolaris. [...] TJ, The project goal states ...

Re: [osol-discuss] netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-05 Thread Derek Cicero
All, I wanted to follow up on the earlier discussion regarding mail lists after trying some things out on our staging boxes. I am cc'ing website-discuss so we can move the particulars of this discussion over there. 2) Posting via Jive As for the problem of postings not getting wrapped at

Re: [osol-discuss] netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-05 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Derek Cicero wrote: 3) Read only mail/NNTP There seems to be a need for another way to access the mail content other than mailman and the forums interface. Currently you can grab an RSS feed of any thread or list, or go to Gmane. If the goal is to be able to read /and/

Re: [osol-discuss] netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-05 Thread Derek Cicero
Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Derek Cicero wrote: 3) Read only mail/NNTP There seems to be a need for another way to access the mail content other than mailman and the forums interface. Currently you can grab an RSS feed of any thread or list, or go to Gmane. If the goal is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-08-05 Thread John Plocher
Joerg Schilling wrote: Why do you believe this? ksh88 vs ksh93 deltas are described as features or improvements by the ksh93 maintainer. ksh88 vs pdksh deltas are described as bugs by the pdksh maintainer. Why do you believe that pdksh makes less problems than ksh93? The potential