> well, they are present - where is SUN?
Regardless of what the perception of Sun's OSS / freeware strategy WAS, the
self-evident fact is, Sun is now the pioneering leader in OSS and more
importantly, in Freeware.
Let's not lose our focus, Sun is the only company that had guts NOT TO BOW DOWN
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 17:16 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:12:07PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:59 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> > > for starters, the general community doesnt need to be able to
> > > "re-upload to unstable". Only maintainers do :
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:12:07PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:59 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> > for starters, the general community doesnt need to be able to
> > "re-upload to unstable". Only maintainers do :-)
>
> I'm sorry, but your statement is not always correct. On
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:59 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> (forgive me for changing the order of quotes a bit, but I think it makes
> sense, and still keeps original intentions...)
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:52:48PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:33 -0700, Philip Bro
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:54 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:52:48PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > > Switching gears a bit, though: last I heard, debian does not have a binary
> > > patching system. just a source code packaging system, that primarily
> > > exists as
> > > "
(forgive me for changing the order of quotes a bit, but I think it makes
sense, and still keeps original intentions...)
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:52:48PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:33 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> > Nothing says that opensolaris has to have "source pa
Oops, that should be "under Xen on Linux".
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That is a possibility, of course; I could always run it under Linux under Xen
or something.
But I'd prefer to be able to run it directly on the card, although Xen might
offer some
interesting possibilities (migration, etc).
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On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:45 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Erast Benson wrote:
> > Regarding this last statement. Could we expect upstream putback any time
> > soon? I think JDS and X changes must be putback into their upstreams
> > sooner or later...
>
> It's a long-term/ongoing process. We c
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:52:48PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > Switching gears a bit, though: last I heard, debian does not have a binary
> > patching system. just a source code packaging system, that primarily exists
> > as
> > "original tarball + set of patches", as you noted.
>
> sound like
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:33 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:19:23PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > The problem I'm seeing is that SVR4 packaging system wasn't developed to
> > inter-operate with upstream tarballs and patching system is not an easy
> > one to enable. At least
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 03:23:25PM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> I think it is worse on Solaris because it looks like you can work it out
> and it appears to be predictable :-(
well, at least once you have a particular box's naming scheme worked out,
it is reasonably predictable.
"eri1" will AL
Erast Benson wrote:
Regarding this last statement. Could we expect upstream putback any time
soon? I think JDS and X changes must be putback into their upstreams
sooner or later...
It's a long-term/ongoing process. We cut the amount of files we have to
patch in Xorg in half between 6.8.2 and
Alan DuBoff wrote:
Is JDS distributed with the OpenSolaris sources?
Yep. It's right there on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ next to
X, Network Storage, SFW, and even ON.
If you have put that back to ON, by all means
wake me up at 11:00 with news.
ON is one small piece of OpenSol
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:19:23PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> The problem I'm seeing is that SVR4 packaging system wasn't developed to
> inter-operate with upstream tarballs and patching system is not an easy
> one to enable. At least it is not as easy as with Debian or RPM. That
> means patches
Teresa Giacomini wrote:
Hi folks,
The OpenSolaris community has been invited to participate in the .org
pavilion at Linuxworld San Francisco. Anyone out there interested in
taking the lead on this? I'm happy to help out with logistics and
such, but I'd love to see some local folks get invol
- Original Message -
From: Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> James Carlson wrote:
> Keep in mind, though, that those Sun engineers are all now
> OpenSolaris
> developers. The goal is open developm
On Friday 02 June 2006 03:59 pm, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > When JDS and X are putback into the OpenSolaris components of Solaris.
> > then to me they will be a part of OpenSolaris.
>
> That's the point - we did that months ago!
Is JDS distributed with the OpenSolaris sources
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:59 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> On Friday 02 June 2006 07:38 am, James Carlson wrote:
> > I don't see how having an accumulation of source code that's known to
> > work on a particular operating system (and some of which that might
> > have needed to be tweaked to do so) is
On Friday 02 June 2006 12:25 pm, Mike Ditto wrote:
> Andrew Gallatin wrote On 06/02/06 11:27,:
> > The MXGE project is an effort to port a proprietary, vendor supplied
> > Solaris GLDv2 ethernet driver for the Myricom 10GE NIC to an
> > OpenSolaris GLDv3 driver.
>
> I second this proposal.
>
> It w
On Friday 02 June 2006 11:30 am, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> This is GREAT news Teresa! Do we know who some of the other players in
> the pavillion will be?
Count me in, just can't commit to being the lead on it!
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On Friday 02 June 2006 11:22 am, Teresa Giacomini wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The OpenSolaris community has been invited to participate in the .org
> pavilion at Linuxworld San Francisco. Anyone out there interested in
> taking the lead on this?
I would help, but not sure I am willing to take the lead
Alan DuBoff wrote:
When JDS and X are putback into the OpenSolaris components of Solaris. then to
me they will be a part of OpenSolaris.
That's the point - we did that months ago!
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Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engine
On Friday 02 June 2006 07:38 am, James Carlson wrote:
> I don't see how having an accumulation of source code that's known to
> work on a particular operating system (and some of which that might
> have needed to be tweaked to do so) is itself a bad thing. In fact, I
> think it's helpful for those
Below are links to the latest batch of overview reports (rollups).
They also appear on the following...
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James Carlson wrote:
David J. Orman writes:
Is it or is it not true that @sun people contribute the majority of
the code that is OSOL? I'm pretty sure my comment was fair, and in
NO way was it intended as negative/insulting/etc. I have upmost
respect for Sun, and I am *trusting* Sun in their in
For background on what this is, see:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200
=
opensolaris-discuss 05/16 - 05/31
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Threads or announcement
I'm clear on everything, thank you for your input. :) I think we are talking on
two different levels and that is why I keep misunderstanding you. Alan and Bev
got me all sorted out! :P
Respectfully,
David
- Original Message -
From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2,
This is all I get if I try to jumpstart a T1000 with B40 of Nevada:
{0} ok boot net - install
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] File and
args: - install
1000 Mbps FDX Link up
Requesting Internet Address for 0:14:4f:21:8b:2
Requesting Internet Address for 0:14:4f
David J. Orman writes:
> Is it or is it not true that @sun people contribute the majority of
> the code that is OSOL? I'm pretty sure my comment was fair, and in
> NO way was it intended as negative/insulting/etc. I have upmost
> respect for Sun, and I am *trusting* Sun in their intent. This
> shou
The criteria is if someone wants to use an OpenSolaris
distro [i.e. community release or variant] on
mission-critical or 24/7 production projects.
We agreed at one time that the term 'OpenSolaris' is
not a commercial or open source product like FreeBSD
or Redhat Linux or OpenSuse. We said it was a
- Original Message -
From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> David J. Orman writes:
> > The truth of the situation, is, right now OSOL is not
> > self-sustaining (nor anywhere close) and it is
> > ma
I would
like to know how to make realplayer 10 the default media player for
nautilus only and not for mozilla. This should be for all users of the
system. I tested setting the path to realplayer in the /etc/mailcap
file, but that only made realplayer the default for mozilla and had no
effect on
David J. Orman writes:
> The truth of the situation, is, right now OSOL is not
> self-sustaining (nor anywhere close) and it is
> maintained/operated/successful because of @sun people. I'm not
I'm not sure that's an entirely fair comment. There are several other
distributions, and we don't tell t
- Original Message -
From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> David J. Orman wrote:
> > Now I'm hearing the opposite, and I'm waiting on an official
> response.
> I don't know about an official re
David J. Orman wrote:
Now I'm hearing the opposite, and I'm waiting on an official response.
I don't know about an official response. Just because any particular
person @sun.com says something doesn't make it the gospel truth any more
than anyone else in the community.
If OSOL is what becom
- Original Message -
From: Bev Crair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 10:15 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> David,
> I you can consider me 'official', then, yes, OSOL -> SX -> Solaris
> is
> the idea.
> Bev Crair
> Director, Solaris Approachability
David,
I you can consider me 'official', then, yes, OSOL -> SX -> Solaris is
the idea.
Bev Crair
Director, Solaris Approachability Engineering (aka KISS)
David J. Orman wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 10:00 am
Subject: Re:
- Original Message -
From: Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 10:00 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> OpenSolaris is that, but that's not the only thing that
> it is.
Ok, this also what Alan says.
> Hey! *Everyone* who would like to have
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 20:39, David J. Orman wrote:
> > It is confusing... Or may be we should think of OpenSolaris as set of
> > projects which could be {re-}used as a bricks to build OpenSolaris-
> > baseddistributions.
>
> That's what I'm trying to clarify. If that *is* what OSOL is,
OpenSolar
As Solaris is booting up on the PowerPC ODW (http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=9554&tstart=0
), lots of people are asking about Embedded Solaris on PPC. There has been a discussion (
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=35061裵 ) last year, and we would like to
- Original Message -
From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 9:40 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> No - you're both right - it's different things to different people.
So which is it (or is it both, officially, which would be fine for
David J. Orman wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 9:34 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
It is confusing... Or may be we should think of OpenSolaris as set of
projects which could be {re-}used as a bricks
- Original Message -
From: Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 9:34 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> It is confusing... Or may be we should think of OpenSolaris as set of
> projects which could be {re-}used as a bricks to build OpenSolaris-
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 09:19 -1000, David J. Orman wrote:
> > I tend to think of OpenSolaris "upstream" as of piece of code which is
> > reusable across *any* OpenSolaris-based distros. I.e. bare minimum
> > whichis enough to build minimal console-only distribution.
>
> I understand what you say,
Andrew Gallatin wrote On 06/02/06 11:27,:
The MXGE project is an effort to port a proprietary, vendor supplied
Solaris GLDv2 ethernet driver for the Myricom 10GE NIC to an
OpenSolaris GLDv3 driver.
I second this proposal.
It will be great to have a good example driver from outside Sun using
th
- Original Message -
From: Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> Nexenta tries to preserve core OpenSolaris infrastructure and makes
> changes with reasonable degree to remain OpenSolaris
> "binary-compati
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 08:02 -1000, David J. Orman wrote:
> To elaborate just a tad, because I can sense a bit of disagreement here,
> I'd like to clarify the "distrubutions" popping up. Even if OSOL were 100% of
> SX's source code, I mean completely available, in the same form Sun uses to
> build/p
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 04:42:12AM -0700, Nicolas Linkert wrote:
> What do companies want? Most of them want a product:
> - that's independent from a vendor - that's why many choose Debian - and not
> Red Hat or SUSE -
> - they need a business desktop / they need a reliable server
> - they want p
Not yet. I'll find out more once I return the contract. Will let y'all
know what I find out.
Laura Ramsey wrote On 06/02/06 11:30,:
This is GREAT news Teresa! Do we know who some of the other players
in the pavillion will be?
LKR
Teresa Giacomini wrote:
Hi folks,
The OpenSolaris co
This is GREAT news Teresa! Do we know who some of the other players in
the pavillion will be?
LKR
Teresa Giacomini wrote:
Hi folks,
The OpenSolaris community has been invited to participate in the .org
pavilion at Linuxworld San Francisco. Anyone out there interested in
taking the lea
The MXGE project is an effort to port a proprietary, vendor supplied
Solaris GLDv2 ethernet driver for the Myricom 10GE NIC to an
OpenSolaris GLDv3 driver.
This project will start with the vendor's GLDv2 driver and integrate
it into OpenSolaris. Once the driver is part of OpenSolaris, we will
por
Hi folks,
The OpenSolaris community has been invited to participate in the .org
pavilion at Linuxworld San Francisco. Anyone out there interested in
taking the lead on this? I'm happy to help out with logistics and such,
but I'd love to see some local folks get involved too. We'll need a
l
- Original Message -
From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 4:38 am
Subject: Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> > I guess that's where I'm getting confused. The way things have been
> > discussed here, OSOL *is* SX.
>
> Untrue.
I missed a word. "The way things have b
> One of the rare things I like in Linux, is how Linux
> solved this: regardless of the networking HW, all
> interfaces are named "eth[0-N]", for example eth0,
> eth1, ... , ethN.
>
> Perhaps this would be a solution to consider? There
> can still be bge0, and iprb0, iprb1 or ce0 in the
> system,
>d) it's a revolving publicity stunt for IBM
Just like IBM's "support" for Open Source.
Which important piece of IBM software was opensourced?
Casper
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Alan DuBoff writes:
> On Thursday 01 June 2006 11:20 am, James Carlson wrote:
> > If they wanted a restaurant instead of a grocery store, they should
> > have looked up "restaurants" instead. 'Solaris Express' is one such
> > restaurant. 'BeleniX' is another. 'SchilliX' a third. And so on.
>
>
James Carlson wrote:
I also like the fact that for my laptop when running Linux, I don't have
to remember how the network driver is called. But the above problem, how
is it addressed on Linux ? On Solaris at least, that issue only occurs if
you have multiple cards of the same type... which isn'
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Tom Smith wrote:
Hi. I've been thinking about building a SOHO NAS project using ZFS as some
others have suggested doing but I'm curious how lightweight I can make Solaris
(from a processor, memory, and install disk space) perspective and still have
decent performance for
UNIX admin writes:
> One of the rare things I like is how Linux solved this: regardless
> of the networking HW, all interfaces are named "eth[0-N]", for
> example eth0, eth1, ... , ethN.
Linux isn't the only one to do this. AIX, BSD, and other variants do
it as well.
> Perhaps this would be a so
>IBM - on the other hand - has made it ample clear from the beginning of their
>backing of Linux:
>That's our path. And they've followed that path ever since.
This depends very much what do you mean by this "path". Sometimes marketing
folks are just confusing the things...For instance, to make L
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gavin Maltby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > if the BIOS enabled it) do the following from kmdb:
> >
> > boot kmdb -d
> > ::bp cpu.AuthenticAMD.15`ao_nb_cfg - add breakpoint
> > :c - wait for breakpoint to hit
> > ao_nb_cfg_add/X - confirm current valu
Gavin Maltby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 05/30/06 22:14, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >>> The machine currently runs fine with Build 30.
> >> Hmmm, it sounds like you have a memory dimm producing
> >> an uncorrectable ECC error and prior to build 34 the
> >
> > This is most unlikely as the machi
> > I am not sure at all. Since big players such as
> IBM
> > are backing
> > Linux ...
>
> Just to be clear, IBM is backing Linux up because
>
> a) AIX has made limited inroads into datacenters, and
> is being kicked out by the competition (read HP-UX
> and Solaris)
where do HP-UX and Solaris k
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:14 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>
> Look at Rhythmbox; compare Rhythmbox to Amarok - I can sync my iPod,
> listen to music, create play lists etc. etc. all from the same
> application.
FWIW, rhythmbox can do that too (in Dapper at least, patches heading
upstream soon ho
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, UNIX admin wrote:
Currently, the names of network interfaces are tied
to the
underlying hardware, for example, bge0.
This is so because of historical reasons, i.e. SunOS/BSD naming conventions,
which rely on networking HW having its own name.
One of the rare things I lik
You might think that Linux shines in that area. Obviously you've never dealt
with platform provisioning and engineering in any structured matter to know
what's all involved. Had you ever designed and built a JumpStart
infrastructure that automatically installs and configures thousands of syste
> > Really? How so? I personally think this is the one
> > area where Linux and
> > some of the commercial Linux distributions shine.
> I
> > can't wait for Sun to
> > address patch management in Solaris, and hope they
> > will release a solution
> > similar to what is provided in Redhat Satelli
> Currently, the names of network interfaces are tied
> to the
> underlying hardware, for example, bge0.
This is so because of historical reasons, i.e. SunOS/BSD naming conventions,
which rely on networking HW having its own name.
One of the rare things I like is how Linux solved this: regardl
> I am not sure at all. Since big players such as IBM
> are backing
> Linux ...
Just to be clear, IBM is backing Linux up because
a) AIX has made limited inroads into datacenters, and is being kicked out by
the competition (read HP-UX and Solaris)
b) AIX is IBM's stepchild
c) Linux provides a
On 05/30/06 22:14, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Gavin Maltby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
The machine currently runs fine with Build 30.
Hmmm, it sounds like you have a memory dimm producing
an uncorrectable ECC error and prior to build 34 the
This is most unlikely as the ma
> Really? How so? I personally think this is the one
> area where Linux and
> some of the commercial Linux distributions shine. I
> can't wait for Sun to
> address patch management in Solaris, and hope they
> will release a solution
> similar to what is provided in Redhat Satellite
> Server (whi
Hi Joerg,
On 05/30/06 23:51, Joerg Schilling wrote:
[cut]
kmdb: stop at cpu.AuthenticAMD.15`ao_nb_cfg
kmdb: target stopped at:
cpu.AuthenticAMD.15`ao_nb_cfg: pushl %ebp
[1]> ao_nb_cfg_add/X
cpu.AuthenticAMD.15`ao_nb_cfg_add:
cpu.AuthenticAMD.15`ao_nb_cfg_add: a000105
[1]>
Bob Palowoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Bob Palowoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > As you all know the GCC team has released as of May
> > 26 the GCC 4.1.1 compiler suite.
> >
> > As I mentioned before on this thread
> >
> > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=
At the risk of sounding totally condescending, did you unzip the DVD ISO
fragments before you cat'd them?
I forgot to, which is why I google'd my way onto this thread in the first place.
I'm running this bit of shell to rebuild the ISO right now.
for x in a b c d e; do
echo *$x.zip...;
unz
> Bob Palowoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > As you all know the GCC team has released as of May
> 26 the GCC 4.1.1 compiler suite.
>
> As I mentioned before on this thread
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=
> 6799&tstart=0
Very good. Will wait till the othe
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