Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [osol-announce] China OpenSolaris Portal Opens]

2007-05-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: However, the Chinese version of Solaris Express looks ugly. Some qualifications are necessary: 1. At least in Fedora and SuSE, the two Linux distros that I use the most, I have to do certain tweakings to get the Chinese display fonts I like. The default Chinese

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: [Fwd: [osol-announce] China OpenSolaris Portal Opens]

2007-05-25 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot read Chinese so I do not muck about with chinese stuff...but can you get use localized character sets (eg: Hong Kong character set) in OpenSolaris? Yes, you can log into the Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong) locale as if you are

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-25 Thread Hugh McIntyre
a b wrote: Even if there is no VC money and some people will have to, hum, share an apartment? Why not? Remember also, VC capital is a U.S. specific thing. In Europe, if you want a startup, you fund that thing out of your own pocket. Off topic perhaps, but they have VC's in Britain as well

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?

2007-05-25 Thread Casper . Dik
Back to the main point though: Solaris is (apparently) unable to grow RAID-Z arrays. And to be fair, neither can Linux ;) You can grow a RAID-Z array as long as you just add a new RAID-Z concatenation; is that not usually what you want? Adding a drive to RAID-5 just makes it yet slower.

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread a b
Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive) with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to delete what is to the right of the cursor. As someone who grew up on a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Whats wrong with GNU tar

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gtar has never let me down either. This depends on what you are doing. If you read the GNU tar mailing list, you see many problems. Mainly multi-volume and incremental backup related but also cases where GNU tar does not read it's own archives. Jörg --

[osol-discuss] zfs change notifications

2007-05-25 Thread Mirko Cetkovic
Hello, I wonder if there is something similar to WInd32 API FindFirstChangeNotification for ZFS - any API ? here is example : http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365261.aspx many thanks Mipko This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] VMware on OpenSolaris (was OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?)

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Rushmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javier O. Augusto wrote: What about running VMWare on Solaris x86? Any plans? Does anyone know something about it? When or if we get VMwarethen I would never install another OS besides Solaris on the bare metal again! This is an important

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Whats wrong with GNU tar

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its performance sucks compared to star? This is another story ;-) Star is fully double buffered and is able to read data in big chunks that are much bigger than the archive block size. GNU tar is also very inefficient in creating tar headers.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. I support Sun Microsystems and Sun engineers 99% of the time, but this is 1% where even I have to write: Looks like you did not understand the problem. DEL

Re: [osol-discuss] zfs change notifications

2007-05-25 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 5/25/07, Mirko Cetkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I wonder if there is something similar to WInd32 API FindFirstChangeNotification for ZFS - any API ? i know something was being discussed http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=36490;

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?

2007-05-25 Thread Joe Little
On 5/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the main point though: Solaris is (apparently) unable to grow RAID-Z arrays. And to be fair, neither can Linux ;) You can grow a RAID-Z array as long as you just add a new RAID-Z concatenation; is that not usually what you want?

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hi Dirk and Joerg, [...] The best Solution I am currently aware is to use rxvt which locally maps the BACKSPACE key event to a DEL key event. stty or xmodmap? /usr/X11/lib/X11/xkb ? best, martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread UNIX admin
Looks like you did not understand the problem. DEL is the correct way to go. I understood what Casper wrote. Technically, Casper is right. Ergonomically, realistically, it's unreasonable. The problem is that the PC keyboards are not ergonomic and have the BACKSPACE key where DEL

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Dirk Wetter
Hey Jörg, On 25.05.2007 13:40, Joerg Schilling wrote: a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. I support Sun Microsystems and Sun engineers 99% of the time, but this is 1% where even I have to

Re: [osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] Tonight, Project Indiana, get the skinny direct from the source!

2007-05-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Alan DuBoff wrote: REMINDER *** PLEASE TAKE NOTE on CALL-IN Number REMDINDER A reminder for tonights meeting, meet Ian Murdock in the flesh, find out about Project Indiana, and participate in a discussion on this recent added Project to the OpenSolaris community. I know a bunch of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?

2007-05-25 Thread ken mays
Basically, I'd chose BOTH for server solutions. If you had to chose only one server solution, I'd chose OpenSolaris. Why? You have the solutions provided by the Solaris ISVs and IHVs as well as the solutions CentOS provides (either through a VM environment or otherwise). A few years ago, I

[osol-discuss] SUN special keys (Front, Open, etc) -- how to make them work in VNC

2007-05-25 Thread Hay, Mausul W
Hi all, I have been trying to find an answer to this by myself but have not had any success. I use a VNC client running under WinDozeXP (no one here likes Redmond, do they?) to connect remotely to a workstation running Solaris 10 and X11 VNC server. The workstation's main application GUI covers

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Hugh McIntyre
a b wrote: Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive) with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to delete what is to the right of the cursor. As someone who

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?

2007-05-25 Thread Darren Dunham
So unless something has changed since April, only Linux (and a number of hardware solutions) support growing raid5 arrays with devices. Indeed SVM has been able to so as well, Solaris 9 in fact could. (SVM == Solaris Volume Manager) An example from the Solaris 9 docs.. How to

[osol-discuss] Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread MC
If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. Correct! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-25 Thread Doug Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Solaris teaches you not to run that command as root (you shouldn't) Solaris does? Where? If it does then why is the only account with login access created during the install process is 'root'? Doug ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dirk Wetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DEL is the correct way to go. The problem is that the PC keyboards are not ergonomic and have the BACKSPACE key where DEL belongs. If you reassign BNACKSPACE to deelete characters, then many things will not longer work correctly. The best

[osol-discuss] scp not working for non-root users - denied

2007-05-25 Thread Anne
Hi All Does anyone know how to get SCP working for regular users on Solaris 10? Since I do not have sudo (against our rules), is there another way my users can use SCP to copy between unix boxes? Thank you! Anne ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On 25/05/07, MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. Correct! Subjective. Its merely a matter of key mappings. Oracle does the same thing and so do many other programs, etc. Technical

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread MC
This should be filed as an RFE. Casper? Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive) with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to delete what is to the right

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Casper . Dik
Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. That 's anti-user. That's bad business. Not annoying current Solaris customers is one part of that strategy; it is

[osol-discuss] Re: ZFS over a layered driver interface

2007-05-25 Thread Shweta Krishnan
Thanks to everyone for their help! yes dtrace did help and I found that in my layered driver, the prop_op entry point had an error in setting the [Ss]ize dynamic property, and apparently that's what ZFS looks for, not just Nblocks! what took me so long in getting to this error was that the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Alan Burlison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not annoying current Solaris customers is one part of that strategy; it is all too often ignored by people suggesting random changes to the system's defaults. That could be said about a significant number of the conversations on this list - 10 people bitching about

Re: [osol-discuss] VMware on OpenSolaris (was OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?)

2007-05-25 Thread Javier O. Augusto
When or if we get VMware then I would never install another OS besides Solaris on the bare metal again! most-def! Now, I remember watching an AMD64 virtualization webcast solution from Sun.. perhaps someone on this list is aware of it.. I was wondering what kind of solution (from a technology

Re: [osol-discuss] VMware on OpenSolaris (was OpenSolaris or CentOs Sever?)

2007-05-25 Thread Brian Gupta
Sun's virtualization strategy: 1) Zones/Containers x86/Sparc 2) LDOMS - Sparc 3) DOMS - Sparc 4) Xen - X86 5) VMWare ESX - x86 -Brian On 5/25/07, Javier O. Augusto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When or if we get VMware then I would never install another OS besides Solaris on the bare metal

RE: [osol-discuss] scp not working for non-root users - denied

2007-05-25 Thread James Carlson
Anne writes: This is odd, because the remove user has full permissions on that directory. And the person can SSH into the box without an issue. But when they run this command: $ scp /home/tclark/* [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/backup/tclark Then it prompts for password, like so: [EMAIL

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Anne
The sad thing about this is that I still cannot get the backspace working on the Java environment. UGH what a major pain. And the DEL key acts the same way. The ONLY thing that works for backspace is continually hitting CTRL+H The Java interface is so much nicer than the CDE, but just can't use

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Casper . Dik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. T hat 's anti-user. That's bad business. Not annoying current Solaris

RE: [osol-discuss] scp not working for non-root users - denied

2007-05-25 Thread Anne
Hi James I'm getting permission denied after it successfully asks for password on remote system. This is odd, because the remove user has full permissions on that directory. And the person can SSH into the box without an issue. But when they run this command: $ scp /home/tclark/* [EMAIL

Re: [osol-discuss] scp not working for non-root users - denied

2007-05-25 Thread James Carlson
Anne writes: Does anyone know how to get SCP working for regular users on Solaris 10? It just does ... right out of the box. Since I do not have sudo (against our rules), is there another way my users can use SCP to copy between unix boxes? You certainly should not need to be root to run

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Brian Gupta
I have a nagging fear that some people inside Sun read this mailing list and interpret it as 'The voice of the customer'. It's not, it's the opinion of a self-selected group. +1 Totally correct. OpenSolaris.org, is definitely not the place to find your average Sun customer opinions. -Brian

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread John Plocher
If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. +1 15 to 20 years ago, we were our customers, and it was easy to map their needs onto our own personal preferences - after all, we were selling to enginerds just like ourselves. Those

Re: [osol-discuss] Removed file history not available on opensolaris.org

2007-05-25 Thread Danek Duvall
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 01:04:26PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Browsing through the online CVS archive at http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/ I noticed that there are no Attic directories. Thus files which we delete from opensolaris are no longer available.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Doug Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. T hat 's anti-user. That's bad

RE: [osol-discuss] scp not working for non-root users - denied

2007-05-25 Thread Anne
Hi James It's working now. The problem all along was a syntax issue. I made a script for them to copy things automatically, after inputting their information interactively. I made a syntax error in the #$ script. Ugh. Thanks for helping though! Anne -Original Message- From: James

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/25/07, Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad thing about this is that I still cannot get the backspace working on the Java environment. UGH what a major pain. And the DEL key acts the same way. The ONLY thing that works for backspace is continually hitting CTRL+H The Java interface is so

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Bruce Shaw
You are probably assuming that your customers only use Solaris! Being one of your customers, stupid thing's like the backspace key not exhibiting the same results as every other device that we own is very annoying. You might find that your customer might celebrate rather than be annoyed if

[osol-discuss] Strange failure for smuser command

2007-05-25 Thread Phillip.Montgomery
Hi, I've installed Solaris 10 U3 11/06 (s10s_u3wos_10) on one of our servers. For some reason I'm getting Authentication failed to the Solaris Management Console server on some of the Solaris Management utilities. I applied the S10 recommended patch set (May 22nd 2007) prior to noticing this

Re: [osol-discuss] Removed file history not available on opensolaris.org

2007-05-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Danek Duvall wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 01:04:26PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Browsing through the online CVS archive at http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/ I noticed that there are no Attic directories. Thus files which we delete from opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On 26/05/07, Doug Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. That 's anti-user. That's bad business.

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Emulex Fibre Channel Device Driver

2007-05-25 Thread Dave . Baldwin
Summary: Provide source code for the Emulex Fibre Channel device driver that operates in the Leadville environment. Overview: We propose the creation of a new project on opensolaris.org, to allow us to contribute our source code for the emlxs device driver to the community. This

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Emulex Fibre Channel Device Driver

2007-05-25 Thread Cyril Plisko
On 5/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summary: Provide source code for the Emulex Fibre Channel device driver that operates in the Leadville environment. Overview: We propose the creation of a new project on opensolaris.org, to allow us to contribute our source code

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Jon Trulson
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Doug Scott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. That 's anti-user. That's bad business. Not

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: [Fwd: [osol-announce] China OpenSolaris Portal Opens]

2007-05-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Don't forget three active user groups, an exploding university program via Joey/Teresa and Co, and a Sun engineering center in Beijing. The portal and the programming contest are just the latest editions to the China OpenSolaris community portfolio. I think we have just as much of a

RE: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Emulex Fibre Channel Device Driver

2007-05-25 Thread Bruce Shaw
Provide source code for the Emulex Fibre Channel device driver that operates in the Leadville environment. I am not sure how is it counted now, that new rules are in effect, but here is my +1 to this proposal. Regards,Cyril I'm interested too, but I don't think I get to vote. This

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: [Fwd: [osol-announce] China OpenSolaris Portal Opens]

2007-05-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Wai wai. ngau see goh boon heung kong yan boon wah kweu. 抱歉我不懂广东话。 (Sorry I don't understand Cantonese.) So the HKSCS is included? http://www.info.gov.hk/digital21/eng/hkscs/download.ht ml I have no idea whether HKSCS is included, but typically the HKSCS is incorporated a subset into a

[osol-discuss] Re: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Krister Joas
On May 26, 2007, at 2:26 AM, Steve Stallion wrote: On 5/25/07, Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad thing about this is that I still cannot get the backspace working on the Java environment. UGH what a major pain. And the DEL key acts the same way. The ONLY thing that works for backspace is