Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Stephen Lau
Can we please just end this discussion? Both sides have raised interesting points, both sides have merits within those points, and I think it's fine for both projects to continue development. The open source world is ripe with projects that fork to create derivative works[1], and a Conary-base

Re: [osol-discuss] test farm server interface released

2008-10-21 Thread Jason King
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Jim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > > Hey! This sounds great. Sounds like I can take down my hungry Blade > > 2000 and Ultra 20 and rather work from a green Blade-Hundred to access > > your build servers (?). > > Electricity bills *a

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread john kroll
Sorry I got a day job. Your one up on me best I ever had on one hd was windows xp, snv, bsdfree. never got two versions of pure zfs going on same hd. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@ope

Re: [osol-discuss] how to display db value of ImageMagick 6.3.4's compare command

2008-10-21 Thread joel tan
i means that how to calculate the db value two different versions of the "same image" indicate how big is difference. Given that compare is used to compare two different versions of the *same image*, and produces a number not only a different image that represents what changed from version to

[osol-discuss] Sysidcfg in new snv_99 zone

2008-10-21 Thread Anders
Is there any way to copy a sysidcfg file to /etc before booting; in snv_99? I havent groked the beadm stuff, but it seems like it's impossible to mount the root before booting, at least for the ipkg brand... Any help appreciated. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [osol-discuss] test farm server interface released

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Walker
Martin Bochnig wrote: > > Hey! This sounds great. Sounds like I can take down my hungry Blade > 2000 and Ultra 20 and rather work from a green Blade-Hundred to access > your build servers (?). > Electricity bills *are* a problem nowadays. > Do contributors like me qualify for this? > > My CA id i

Re: [osol-discuss] test farm server interface released

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Jim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The OpenSolaris Test Farm build server interface is ready for use by > OpenSolaris contributors. This interface allows users to add their > own account onto a build server, where they can build OpenSolaris > software. Each use

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Mario Goebbels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Because you are lacking (or at least running out of) arguments, you try to >> fight me via the "personal psycho style" method. > > Here's the persecution complex again... "Fight you" "personal psycho style". > > Only

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Miner
Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Mario Goebbels
> Because you are lacking (or at least running out of) arguments, you try to > fight me via the "personal psycho style" method. Here's the persecution complex again... "Fight you" "personal psycho style". Only thing I'm discussing here is that your discussion style sucks, not the arguments you

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >>Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> >> >>On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson >>

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Mario Goebbels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, persecution complex much? >> >> No, for what? >> I'm not rPath. >> >> Doesn't make sense what you say. I only analyze the facts. >> But if you don't know (or understand) them, better stop this rant. >> >

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Miner
Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Mario Goebbels
> Seriously, persecution complex much? > > No, for what? > I'm not rPath. > > Doesn't make sense what you say. I only analyze the facts. > But if you don't know (or understand) them, better stop this rant. Doesn't change the fact that you're being frickin' annoying since your episode with

Re: [osol-discuss] image-update hung?

2008-10-21 Thread Gary Barker
OK, 2G of RAM certainly speeds up things. I am upgrading from build 90. Now I get time-out errors during the upgrade phase. See file attached. -- This message posted from opensolaris.orgDOWNLOADPKGS FILES XFER (MB) Completed

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Martin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Mario Goebbels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > ... > > Seriously, persecution complex much? For what it is worth, Martin is not alone with the concern, especially given how similar the projects are becoming. While I may not agree with the

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Mario Goebbels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > ... > > Seriously, persecution complex much? > > -mg > > No, for what? I'm not rPath. Doesn't make sense what you say. I only analyze the facts. But if you don't know (or understand) them, bett

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Mario Goebbels
Martin Bochnig wrote: > ... Seriously, persecution complex much? -mg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> >>On 20 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> >>On 20 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Miner
Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > On 20 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Calum Benson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>If I'll upgrade the pool under my new BE, then I'm not able to boot >my laptop using old BE, because it doesn't support new version of ZFS. >Am I right? > If the old BE doesn't support the new ZFS version, then indeed you can't boot. Casper ___ ope

Re: [osol-discuss] how to display db value of ImageMagick 6.3.4's compare command

2008-10-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
joel tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when comparing the different images using compare command in the Solaris > snv_96, if the size of images are different , the compare does not seem to > work in the next step. so i cann't get the the db val of the images , how can > i get the db val when

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
john kroll pisze: > Doesn't a primary bios partition separate your zfs pool from anything else?? Hi John, I'm not sure I understand your question well. I have the following partitions on my disk: 1. Primary for Ubuntu 2. Primary for Solaris 3. Extended for Ubuntu swap The first partition I can

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: >>I'm glad that I don't have any errors, but I'm not sure it's serious >>problem that my "pool is formatted using an older on-disk format". >> >>Can I ignore that warning or rather I should do `zpool upgrade`? >>What's your opinion? I ask you, because I don't want to break

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread john kroll
Doesn't a primary bios partition separate your zfs pool from anything else?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hello Folks, > >After successfully OSOL upgrade (b96 -> b99) I can see the following >result displayed by `zpool status` command: > ># zpool status > pool: rpool > state: ONLINE >status: The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format. The pool can > still be used, but some featur

[osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Hello Folks, After successfully OSOL upgrade (b96 -> b99) I can see the following result displayed by `zpool status` command: # zpool status pool: rpool state: ONLINE status: The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format. The pool can still be used, but some features are unav

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 20 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Calum Benson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 19 Oct 2008, at 13:11, Duncan Paterson wrote: > >> > >>> What are the ch

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal -- Port to MIPS architecture

2008-10-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> what about the chinese Loongson processor? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson > > a notebook running mandriva using that chip seems to > be on the way > http://www.gdium.com/description > > and there is some documentation about it in > http://www.loongsondeveloper.com The -2 (as in the la

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-21 Thread Calum Benson
On 20 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Martin Bochnig wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Calum Benson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On 19 Oct 2008, at 13:11, Duncan Paterson wrote: >> >>> What are the chances that this will one day rival apt for selection, >>> frequency of updates and speed.

Re: [osol-discuss] SOLVED: Image update without a clone of current BE?

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Paweł Tęcza pisze: > Hello All, > > I would like to upgrade OSOL from build 96 to build 99 on my old laptop. > Unfortunately I have a small Solaris partition and upgrading process > failed because free disk space is not enough. Hi again, The problem has been solved. It was pretty simple. I did

Re: [osol-discuss] who is opensolaris for?

2008-10-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> But I thought software aimed at malware was to remove > a threat? Matter of definition, maybe. From one point of view, a certain very widely used OS is a _hosting_environment_ for malware. :-) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
%martin bochnig Natamar project PLATINUM-SPONSOR and co-developer: BRIAN GUPTA http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/fox/SPARC-Xorg/ http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~mbeinsx/FOX/bin-snapshots/ http://www.martux.org/SPARC_distro_incl_Xorg7.2/ hg repo for upcoming distro-generator for x86/x64 and spar

Re: [osol-discuss] who is opensolaris for?

2008-10-21 Thread john kroll
But I thought software aimed at malware was to remove a threat? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On 10/21/08, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Joerg is a contractor of Sun (or once was one). >> That's why I didn't mention him, because he defined himself that way, if I >> recall correctly. > > Well for a short period of time you are r

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg is a contractor of Sun (or once was one). > That's why I didn't mention him, because he defined himself that way, if I > recall correctly. Well for a short period of time you are right. This has become past about year ago altough the project was

Re: [osol-discuss] who is opensolaris for?

2008-10-21 Thread Paul Harper
Whoever wants to use it! Seriously though at this stage of the game I would say it mainly aimed at developers and people interested in operating systems. If your requirements are simple like a malware free desktop with Open Office, a web browser and a few tools for web development your needs

Re: [osol-discuss] GNOME 2.24.0 unleashed

2008-10-21 Thread john kroll
Open-source Nonlinux??? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] 10/23, Arduino Night, buy a kit, build a kit, bring a board

2008-10-21 Thread Alan DuBoff
This Thursday, we will have several nice things to show folks with Arduinos, and for those who venture to build one we will be having a go with that also! The kits will cost $11-$12. We create a Wiki which you can see at the following link: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Arduino_Interest

Re: [osol-discuss] GNOME 2.24.0 unleashed

2008-10-21 Thread Brian Cameron
Ché: > I have seen MeidaPortal compared to Elisa so I guess you could say that they > play in the same space... They seem similar, from looking at the MediaPortal website. However, looking at the FAQ, it seems that it does not support Linux, and is a Windows only application. http://www.team-