> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Harper
>
> http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/40394-oracle-
> maintains-silence-on-opensolaris-future
>
> I really can't understand Oracle's lack of com
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/40394-oracle-maintains-silence-on-opensolaris-future
I really can't understand Oracle's lack of communication regarding the future
of Opensolaris.
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> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Erik Trimble
>
> (Can I call you Ed?)
I prefer Ned, but it don't matter much. Ed, Ned, Edward, Harvey. They're
all used. Thanks for asking.
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That is a bit extreme. That being said I really hope I won't have to move back
to Limux myself. I would miss ZFS and IPsec among many other nice features of
Osol.
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Excellent rant. Too bad so few with a fondness for Red Kool-Aid will ever get
it... :(
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On 07/13/10 09:53 AM, Stathis Kamperis wrote:
Hi
tgmath.h is C99, and you're compiling as C89 (-ansi). Try -std=c99 instead of
-ansi, or stick to C89 features. Your code might compile on Linux,
since on that platform C89, C99, C++ and in fact most standards are all rather
a blur.
Yes, you ar
On Jul 13, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Hugh McIntyre wrote:
> For all lists, 22% of the messages were posted with Jive, but this rises to
> 44% of all unique sender addresses, so apparently the email users send more
> messages on average. 7% of senders used both Jive and email.
I don't find this surpri
Read this whole email and do the exercise at the bottom
before replying.
> You didn't read what I said, I said it is the _official_ _OpenSolaris_
_GCC_.
You are somewhat misguided.
> It is the GCC found in the standard OpenSolaris repository as thus
*should* work.
In theory. How do you know? Y
Thanks for the correction.
Has Oracle ended new contracts though, and is only supporting existing ones to
EOL of the contract?
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Thanks.
I thought that was going to be the answer. But I appreciate the reply I can
use host-only; I prefer not to use bridged for this.
Will setup host-only.
Thanks again!
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On 07/13/10 12:16 PM, John Plocher wrote:
+--
Please join the distro community and help make this happen. Joerg,
Moinak and the rest of us will welcome you with open keyboards! Like
you said, there are a few obstacles in the way of doing a completely
open distro right now (closed source I18
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 10:29 -0700, Gary wrote:
> Is it not possible with VirtualBox using internal networking
> to be able to communicate with the FreeBSD jails?
I thought I'd replied to you, but the reply must have been lost. The
answer is no; see:
http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#net
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Paul Gress wrote:
[...]>
> While I believe Oracle is gung-ho about Opensolaris, I don't believe it's in
> sync with our views. I believe they would like to close the source if they
> can. I'm starting to look at it this way.
>
> * Oracle is smart
> * If I were Or
Gary wrote:
> Oracle I believe has ended paid support contracts for OpenSolaris (although
> they
> will honor the SUN paid contracts to EOL). OpenSolaris doesn't have any
> patches, even for security, and the only updates are for dev.
OpenSolaris doesn't have "patches" because it uses differen
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Giovanni Tirloni
wrote:
[...]>
>> No one is suggesting that Oracle is doing a good job
>> of living up to
>> their commitments or communicating their intentions.
>> However, they
>> hold all of the cards.
>
> Exactly! I'm probably sounding like a broken record but
Oh for crying out loud, stop these ridiculous posts about OpenSolaris.
Oracle I believe has ended paid support contracts for OpenSolaris (although
they
will honor the SUN paid contracts to EOL). OpenSolaris doesn't have any
patches, even for security, and the only updates are for dev.
What
eam1, every post you present is old stuff and it has been asked before that you
stop posting these.
It's been almost 18 months since a RELEASE has been made (code likely frozen in
Feb 2006 and it is almost Aug 2010). Almost every post now on discuss is stuff
about the (non)future of OpenSolari
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|VB guest with intern net 10.0.0.5/24 |
|---|
|VB guest with intern net 10.0.0.4/24 |
|---|
|FreeBSD jail 10.0.0.3/24 |
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My last post here on the topic. Come on over to OGB-discuss if you want to
seriously work towards a better solution.
Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
> they are saying "sorry, under the current terms we've no purpose so it's
useless to pretend we should hold any official position".
Bingo.
Many Somebody
> Ooh... I can actually hear the sarcasm and
> condescension dripping!
:-)
>
> There is a difference between taking someone to task
> and threatening
> them for not, in your subjective view, living up to
> their end of the
> bargain.
Personally I think the OGB should not even bother giving Orac
Ken Gunderson wrote:
Yes, Erik. But few users are old grey beards like us that are comfortable with
listserver and push discussion. The newer generation interfaces w/everything
via the browser, e.g. witness web 2.0, so the reality of the matter is that the
majority of posts come via Jive int
> While I believe Oracle is gung-ho about Opensolaris, I don't believe it's in
> sync with our views. I believe they would like to close the source if they
> can. I'm starting to look at it this way.
>
I think they can do that easily. After all the source belongs
to them and they decide whether
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| So I think not a Fork is required, but a "Cloning" is required.
This new project
| should be called maybe "Desktop Clone-aris" Where what we do is try to
| compile the source and recreate the missing closed binaries.
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Please join the di
As has become pretty obvious to most of us, I'll share a few characteristics
and let what's left of the old school community draw it's own conclusion:
1) Recent join dates.
2) Never post anything technical, nor demonstrate any technical insights or
actual technical knowledge.
3) Always pro Ora
Hi
I've looked at this a bit more. On Linux, it looks like this is achieved by
some ugly macro hackery. On Solaris, as you've seen, fairly simple macros are
used. Running a grep in the sun studio dir I see
ggrep -r __tgmath_creal *
Binary file prod/lib/lintlib/v9/llib-lgpc.ln matches
Binary fil
If I could add my comment(s) regarding latest developments:
- Oracle clearly *is* a moving boat. But maybe a bit slower than expected for
many of us.
As well Oracle is not very well known for active relationships with open
source communities
, where they *actively* participate and communi
Attributions fixed.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Giovanni Tirloni
wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 Fredrich Maney wrote:
>> You don't need to be a betting man to see that OGB attendance at these
>> meetings would be a good thing. However, thanks to the OGB's decision
>> to poke a stick in Lar
It has been reported, see link below that the UK Government want to save money
and would like to make the best use of Open Source software. If OpenSolaris
was to be considered, would it stack up as a desktop and server platform? Does
it have the necessary configuration tools bundled with it fo
On 07/13/10 07:08 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
I still think Oracle is gung ho about OpenSolaris and still ironing things
out. this docs may seems old but they are dated 2010 and has the oracle banner
on them. I see it there is still interest.
quote:
This is just one update on Oracle's freq
Stathis Kamperis writes:
> has anyone managed to make gcc (3.4.3) + tgmath.h play nice ?
> Even this simple test case fails for me:
>
> stathis:~% cat tgmath.c
> #include
>
> int
> main(void)
> {
> cos(1.0);
>
> return 0;
> }
> stathis:~% gcc tgmath.c -lm -Wall -W -ansi -pedantic
> t
ken mays wrote:
> I'll also point out that Oracle OpenWorld is Sept 19-23 and there is a
> 'Oracle Solaris 10 and Beyond: Lead Engineers Panel (S317641)' meeting on
> Sept 23 10:30 AM PST. This is a month after the OGB 'mutiny' date of Aug 23rd
> mentioned in Ben Rockwood's blog.
>
> The meetin
Edward Martinez wrote:
> >The OGB has obtained contacts within Oracle (see:
> >http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2010-July/007931.html) and
> >has to maintain the general rules of governance stated here in the OGB
> >portal: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+o
The linker is complaining. It can't find a reference to "__tgmath_cos." Try the
following:
gcc -std=c99 tgmath.c -l -lm -Wall -W
Replace "" appropriately.
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[...]
> > If I was a betting man...I'd think someone from the
> OGB staff attending these two meetings would be very
> helpful to
> > the OGB and to those attending
>
> You don't need to be a betting man to see that OGB
> attendance at these
> meetings would be a good thing. However, thanks to
---Ken Mays wrote:
> > If I was a betting man...I'd think someone from the
> OGB staff attending these two meetings would be very helpful
> to the OGB and to those attending
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Joerg Schilling
wrote:
>
> If Oracle is willing to arrange the flight and trip, I am
> sure that
hello
yes you have to set views.
if you want to have it more easy, you could use my napp-it web-gui
for nexenta and Opensolaris.
it has full support for comstar iscsi
see a running config with menue 'comstar iscsi' at:
http://www.napp-it.org/pop_en.html
there are also infos about comstar settin
>The OGB has obtained contacts within Oracle (see:
>http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2010-July/007931.html) and
>has to maintain the general rules of governance stated here in the OGB portal:
>http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+ogb/governance.
Well, i was under
> You don't need to be a betting man to see that OGB
> attendance at these
> meetings would be a good thing. However, thanks to
> the OGB's decision
> to poke a stick in Larry's eye, you do need to be a
> betting man as to
> whether or not the OGB or OpenSolaris is even
> relevant when these
> meet
> But the problem is all LUNs are visible to all hosts
> which i dont want. I want to restirct LUNs to
> particular host only..
>
> This is purely on LAN, I have no FC HBA Installed in
> my scenario.
I am stumbling through the same for PXE->gPXE->iSCSI boot with host-specific
LUNs.
There are se
>Hi
>
> tgmath.h is C99, and you're compiling as C89 (-ansi). Try -std=c99 instead of
> -ansi, or stick to C89 features. Your code might compile on Linux,
> since on that platform C89, C99, C++ and in fact most standards are all
> rather a blur.
Yes, you are right. But it doesn't make any differ
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM, ken mays wrote:
>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1134
>
> This is a very interesting read as Ben shakes a finger moreso at the OGB's
> comments and direction on the issue(s) at hand.
Agreed. And I think he is right. The OGB is trying to play c
ken mays wrote:
> I'll also point out that Oracle OpenWorld is Sept 19-23 and there is a
> 'Oracle Solaris 10 and Beyond: Lead Engineers Panel (S317641)' meeting on
> Sept 23 10:30 AM PST. This is a month after the OGB 'mutiny' date of Aug 23rd
> mentioned in Ben Rockwood's blog.
>
> The meeti
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
> The community is tired of having to guess Oracle's intentions. This FAQ means
> nothing.
> Please stop posting every single URL that mentions OpenSolaris/Solaris in an
> attempt to paint a rosy reality.
And the non-stop paranoia, pessim
Haven't received and answer on the virtualbox forum, so thought maybe somebody
here knows.
Using FreeBSD jails on lo1 with 10.0.02, 10.0.0.3, 10.0.0.4 /24
Have VirtualBox OSE 3.2.6 installed and have internal networking selected.
Why can a VirtualBox guest with an IP of 10.0.0.5/24 not be able
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 16:50, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>
> > As a result of the language used in some of these
> latest threads, I am removing some people from this
> list.
>
> Thanks, Jim, that's helpful, appropriate and
> proportionate.
Agreed. Thanks Jim.
fpsm
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Posted via the Jive forum since Gmail still seems to be in the blacklist. Sorry
about any duplicates.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:10 AM, John Plocher wrote:
>
> +-- On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Fredrich Maney
> wrote:
> | +-- I wrote:
> | | In other words, it isn't Jive's fault, nor is it th
> Hi people,
>
> has anyone managed to make gcc (3.4.3) + tgmath.h
> play nice ?
> Even this simple test case fails for me:
>
> stathis:~% cat tgmath.c
> #include
>
> int
> main(void)
> {
> cos(1.0);
>
> return 0;
> }
> stathis:~% gcc tgmath.c -lm -Wall -W -ansi -pedantic
Hi
tgma
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Edward Martinez wrote:
> From: Edward Martinez
> quote:
> The OGB is keen to promote the uptake and open development
> of OpenSolaris and to work on behalf of the community with
> Oracle, as such the OGB needs Oracle to appoint a liaison by
> August 16, 2010, who has the t
John Plocher wrote:
> +-- On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:
> | there should be no moral dilemma in forking, if Oracle/Sun is not playing
> their
> | role in the partnership with the community.
> +--
>
> As a matter of principle, I see no problem with forking as long as the
>
Hi people,
has anyone managed to make gcc (3.4.3) + tgmath.h play nice ?
Even this simple test case fails for me:
stathis:~% cat tgmath.c
#include
int
main(void)
{
cos(1.0);
return 0;
}
stathis:~% gcc tgmath.c -lm -Wall -W -ansi -pedantic
tgmath.c: In function `main':
tgmath.c:
Edward Martinez wrote:
> That is to say, "start talking to us or we'll just shot ourselves in the
> head."
>
> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1134
I am not sure whether Ben missunderstands some things, but the OGB is not
repsonsible for givong Ben free access to the Solaris
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Giovanni Tirloni
wrote:
> If this is carried forward, I think it's a very sensible decision by the OGB.
> There is no point in pretending the OGB is what it was supposed to be (or at
> least what the community expected it to be) when Oracle is not willing to
>
> I still think Oracle is gung ho about OpenSolaris and
> still ironing things out. this docs may seems old
> but they are dated 2010 and has the oracle banner on
> them. I see it there is still interest.
>
The community is tired of having to guess Oracle's intentions. This FAQ means
nothi
Edward Martinez wrote:
> i think dissolving the OGB will make Oracle show its true colors about
> OpenSolaris. if they want to keep it active they will probably appoint new
> OGB members or just close up shop.
>
> But i think is better to wait after the OpenWorld show to dissolve, who
> kn
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
> i think dissolving the OGB will make Oracle show its true colors about
> OpenSolaris. if they want to keep it active they will probably appoint new
> OGB members or just close up shop.
It's not clear to us that (from a community perspec
I still think Oracle is gung ho about OpenSolaris and still ironing things
out. this docs may seems old but they are dated 2010 and has the oracle banner
on them. I see it there is still interest.
quote:
This is just one update on Oracle's frequently asked questions (FAQs) for its
newly a
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Rob McMahon wrote:
From: Rob McMahon
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] [opensolaris-discuss] Were to from here?
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 6:16 AM
On 13/07/2010 03:38, John Plocher wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Giovanni Tirl
Edward Martinez wrote:
> i think dissolving the OGB will make Oracle show its true colors about
> OpenSolaris. if they want to keep it active they will probably appoint new
> OGB members or just close up shop.
Let us try to understand why Jeb Dabsteel did not attent the teleconference
yester
On 13/07/2010 03:38, John Plocher wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
Sorry for sounding so pessimist, it feels terrible to see the OpenSolaris
project going through all of this.
It feels worse to be on the OGB and still being able to do so little
about the proble
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