Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Solaris 10 can be used for strictly self-educational purposes.. Not even for self-education. The (developer) license text at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/solaris-cluster-express-license-167852.html says: only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Octave Orgeron
So write some shell scripts, compile some software, test some software. That should be more than enough to meet the requirements;) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web:

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Edward Martinez
So write some shell scripts, compile some software, test some software. That should be more than enough to meet the requirements;) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web:

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread No Real Name
It's pretty hard to care about a company that craps all over it's development community. About all I expect these days is that they'll do more to make me recommend other choices in the enterprise than their products. But hey, that's just business right? New license sleaze just means more

Re: [osol-discuss] NetApp and Oracle settle patent dispute over ZFS

2010-09-11 Thread russell
It is not clear if Sun provided enough information to invalidate all the patents that ZFS was threatened with. PJ @ Groklaw does not appear to have updated the status of the ZFS dispute since 2008. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] NetApp and Oracle settle patent dispute over ZFS

2010-09-11 Thread No Real Name
This would only matter if they were still worth doing development for. It's not a wise investment of time at this point, and probably never will be again. This matters to dimwit suit wearing fracktards, but to everyone else it's pretty irrelevant in the bigger picture. -- This message posted

Re: [osol-discuss] Phenom II X6 1090T, AMD 890FX / SB850, Any Driver Development Efforts?

2010-09-11 Thread Orvar Korvar
I use ATI4850 with OpenSolaris. It works. But no 3D. Only 2D. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/2010 6:11 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: It appears this is the license Solaris 11 Express wil be under and it's solaris 10 new license, an OTN lincese.

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Gary Driggs
On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote: They make it sound like they feel threatened by OpenSource software, the GPL in particular. While I have no love for the GPL, I've never thought that any OSS license would create the need for language like that. It's probably much less

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Cia Watson
Given the new license details for what will be Oracle Solaris 11 Express, it appears I won't be upgrading my snv_134 osol to Sol11 express (since I'm not a developer), and so am looking forward to details about OpenIndiana. I have one question at the moment: Will there be ext3 and/or ext4

[osol-discuss] Who should we report bugs to?

2010-09-11 Thread Paul Harper
Bug 7467 is still active in snv_134. Do I need to report this to 'OpenSolaris or Oracle M Even More Unbelievably Unbreakable than Linux Solaris 11? https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7467 Who do we report bugs to!!!?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Who should we report bugs to?

2010-09-11 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 11 Sep 2010, at 18:59, Paul Harper wrote: Bug 7467 is still active in snv_134. Do I need to report this to 'OpenSolaris or Oracle M Even More Unbelievably Unbreakable than Linux Solaris 11? https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7467 Who do we report bugs to!!!?? You're

Re: [osol-discuss] Who should we report bugs to?

2010-09-11 Thread Edward Martinez
Alternatively on Tuesday you can try OpenIndiana b147 to see if that resolves the issue _ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org There is one bug still affecting opensolaris b134. i filed this to bugzilla but it

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Gary Driggs
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Cia Watson wrote: I have one question at the moment: Will there be ext3 and/or ext4 support? I have a shared data partition in ext3 that I would need to be able to mount periodically. There is already a read only filesystem package that allows mounting of NTFS,

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Orvar Korvar
This is interesting. b147 you say? Cool! It is not based on illumos. When will it be based on illumos? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/2010 6:11 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: It appears this is the license Solaris 11 Express wil be under and it's solaris 10 new license, an OTN lincese. http://c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6891-Licensing-Change-for

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Kjar
To give you an idea of how self destructive this is, I am now moving all of my operations to ubuntu (not my opensolaris desktop/file server though!). Today I was able to get my sunrays running on 9.10 and tomorrow I will move them up to 10.04. I can buy licenses for my sunrays for 100 dollars

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Kjar
Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 12 Sep 2010, at 01:42, Daniel Kjar wrote: Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))? If SunRay Software runs on OpenSolaris b134 then theres a fairly good chance it will run on OpenIndiana. It's something we would be very keen to ensure works on our /stable

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Kjar
Excellent. I am glad to hear you think that may be valuable. Sadly though srss 4.2 does not work (easily, or even moderately easily with b134). Not saying somebody couldn't figure out why and create simple scripts to make it work though! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Bryan Horstmann-Allen
+-- | On 2010-09-11 17:37:52, Daniel Kjar wrote: | | I am a professor and all of my work is non-commercial and I require no support besides security updates. I would pay for those just as I pay for them with my

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Cia Watson
On 09/11/2010 07:54 PM, Gary Driggs wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Cia Watson wrote: I have one question at the moment: Will there be ext3 and/or ext4 support? I have a shared data partition in ext3 that I would need to be able to mount periodically. There is already a read only

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi, I really think people like you are reading too much into the license and over reacting. So Oracle is going to give Solaris, Solaris Express, etc away for free for non-Production use. They say things like it's free for development, testing, etc. Why is this not flexible enough? Hell, just

Re: [osol-discuss] Who should we report bugs to?

2010-09-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Edward Martinez wrote: i filed this to bugzilla but it did not really got fix, Reporting kernel/driver bugs to bugzilla was always a waste of time, since the kernel/driver engineers wouldn't see them until someone copied to the bugster bug database behind bugs.opensolaris.org. bugzilla is