Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana is nothing fancy and is not a

2007-11-07 Thread Gueven Bay
Gueven Bay writes: Can someone help me, please, to get out of this forum? Multiple means are available. You can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also log in as a subscriber here: http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana is nothing fancy and is not a community project !

2007-11-07 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello again, Can someone help me, please, to get out of this forum? Under Your control panel and also under Update profile pages I cannot find a delete this account function. I also don't know how to reach a moderator so I could ask him personally. Just give me a hint. Thanks. This

Re: [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Gueven Bay
I'm sorry, but I just didn't get it ... that the founder, that the creator, that the maker of THE (cannot make THE big enough) Free Software distribution mankind has today cannot understand the difference between the community project(s) presented here (where SUN has 90-98% to say over it)

[osol-discuss] Mismatch of Developer's Reference and README.opensolaris ?

2007-10-23 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello, The Developer's Reference says in chapter 4.4.3 Packages : Ordinary SVR4 packages can be built from the files installed into the proto area (see section 4.4.1). This is done automatically by the main makefile's all and pkg_all targets (see usr/src/Makefile) as part of a successful

Re: [osol-discuss] Mismatch of Developer's Reference and README.opensolaris ?

2007-10-23 Thread Gueven Bay
Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what is true : Can you build packages from the ON sources, or not? You can't unless you edit the package definition files to reflect the files that are missing in ON. Can you, please, elaborate on that, Jörg? Your explanation is not only for me

Re: [osol-discuss] Mismatch of Developer's Reference and README.opensolaris ?

2007-10-23 Thread Gueven Bay
Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what is true : Can you build packages from the ON sources, or not? You can't unless you edit the package definition files to reflect the files that are missing in ON. Can you, please

Re: [osol-discuss] Summit recordings from first day

2007-10-14 Thread Gueven Bay
First, Thank you for making it possible to download the recorded sessions. I downloaded them and tried to listen to it. But the sound is absolutely horrible. It is as if thousand people at the same time speak into the microphone. Then I can hear that the speaker of the session is saying

[osol-discuss] Are the sources (OS/Net) compatible with gcc or not?

2007-09-05 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello, At the bottom of the ON downloads page in the Now what? section it is stated: If you have decided to build with gcc, be aware that the sources listed above will not compile with gcc. Read the information in the tools/gcc community get the appropriate sources and the information you'll

[osol-discuss] [Rant] Why does the Download Center not work?

2007-08-30 Thread Gueven Bay
I tried now for the fourth time to download sol-nv-b70-x86-dvd-iso-b.zip from the Download Center. How can it be that I can download 600MB isos from the FreeBSD and Debian mirrors which are privately hosted without interruption but a Download Center from a multi-billion company for the

Re: [osol-discuss] [Rant] Why does the Download Center not work?

2007-08-30 Thread Gueven Bay
@darrend and @andrewk9, Thank you for your tipp to use wget. I know wget, but can you , please, tell me how I can use wget with this interactive Download page Sun gives us? How can I use wget to input my login name, my password, then after that click Accept(for the license) and only then to

[osol-discuss] Cannot download SXCE snv_70

2007-08-22 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello, I wanted to download SXCE snv_70 and went to this thread : http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=147164tstart=0#147164 But after clicking on the CD download link I get this message at the Download site: The product you requested is not available at this time.

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot download SXCE snv_70

2007-08-22 Thread Gueven Bay
And from the Download Center (http://www.sun.com/download/) - Solaris Operating Systems (http://www.sun.com/download/index.jsp?cat=Operating%20Systemstab=3subcat=Solaris%20Operating%20Systems) - Solaris Express Developer Edition (http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/solaris-express/get.jsp)

[osol-discuss] Where can I ask questions regarding OS/NET, please?

2007-08-19 Thread Gueven Bay
Hi folks, I have a question regarding the main consolidation but I cannot find a proper forum to ask it there. I went here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/onnv/discussions/ the discussion page of the project OS/Net but there is not a forum then I went here:

Re: [osol-discuss] COBOL?

2007-08-07 Thread Gueven Bay
Hi, I am wondering if we have COBOL in OpenSolaris (or any Solaris distribution). Thanks! I looked at the software list of Blastwave (blastwave.org) but they don't have Cobol. But if you use pkgsrc (pkgsrc.org) on (Open)Solaris then you will find opencobol and tinycobol in it. Here can

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Gueven Bay
hi, yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for Solaris. :) 486 _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. Hi xlucas, In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. Let me explain: Do you know these machines http://www.soekris.com ? The hackers and tinkerers I know love

Re: [osol-discuss] Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-07-17 Thread Gueven Bay
(the bulk builds of pkgsrc) on every release of it. I am very curious for your comments now. regards Gueven Bay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-07-17 Thread Gueven Bay
I want to make here a note which is somewhat off-topic but on the other side not: As I posted my press release about Menhir I think you read already this point: * A collection of kernel configuration files for desktops, laptops and servers. You get insight in the structure and building of the

[osol-discuss] Re: how to install Solaris from OK

2007-06-27 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello Anne, There is a document named FreeBSD from scratch (No, no don't go away this has nothing to do with compiling). In this document you get described to make a fresh installation on a new slice from the files you already have on the harddrive - just as you described your problem - .

[osol-discuss] Re: Introduction and newbie hosting setup question...

2007-06-27 Thread Gueven Bay
Hi Peter, I would say that your way to OpenSolaris consists from following steps: a) Install SXCE b) Make yourself familiar with the Solaris commands and Solaris way of doing things - as there are some differences to GNU/Linux - c) Learn about the services framework SMF - because you have to

[osol-discuss] Re: Announcing the belenix-discuss mailing list

2007-06-27 Thread Gueven Bay
Hi Venky, Thank you for pointing us to the belenix mailing list. But I have a question: Why is the ML not listet in the OpenSolaris forums page? http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/index.jspa?categoryID=1 Can you contact the appropriate person(s), please, to make that happen? Thank you This

[osol-discuss] Re: mount question

2007-06-26 Thread Gueven Bay
I am trying to troubleshoot an existing script and have located the point of failure. Before I make any changes I need to know what the bolded entry is doing/for: mount /dev/dsk/$disk /mnt [b]2/dev/null[/b] I know that if I leave it off everything will work, but does anyone have an idea

[osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread Gueven Bay
Welcome davek, I am also registered and I never got spam like mails because of that. If you just want to circumvent the reg then go to genunix.org and download Belenix 0.6 (the recent release) and learn with it. Don't worry, Belenix is true OpenSolaris, so you will learn SysV with it. But for

[osol-discuss] Re: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Gueven Bay
carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of the jewels has been stolen ... What do you mean has been stolen? I think I know what he means with stolen: Fact is that many, many more people are trying Linux than OpenSolaris. The media is writing and talking about Linux

[osol-discuss] Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
So you are proposing to commoditise the kernel under a specific userland component, I like the sound of this in principle but am sceptical as to whether this would be possible with the current levels of co-operation between different kernel projects (BSD, OpenSolaris, Linux, etc). As I

[osol-discuss] Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
Interesting; sounds a bit like a cross between { Debian/GNU NetBSD, Debian/GNU kFreeBSD } and Bluewall { http://bluewall.es.gnu.org/ }. Since a long time I have the opinion that there should be a place where the several free operating system developers come together and help out in developing

[osol-discuss] Re: NEED URGENT HELP

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
I also need urgent help in getting administrative rights in this forum for moving your post and similar posts to the -help forum/ML. And, please, make your problem in the next answer to your thread a little more clear.Okay? Thanks PS: STOP SHOUTING! This message posted from

[osol-discuss] Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
Here I want to describe which pros Menhir will have to OpenSolaris users - especially for future users - : 1) I am frequently reading the mailing list for Indiana: One of _the_ topics there is How can we make it clear, that OpenSolaris is just and only the source of the 'base-system' ? I think

[osol-discuss] Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
I'm just a lurker, but 'hi'. Hello ;-) With this post I started the work on Menhir. Menhir will distribute the sources of: FreeBSD Release 6.1 (base system) 6.1 is archaic; the last release of FreeBSD is 6.2. and 6.2 is six months old. 6.1 was released in may of 2006 which makes it

[osol-discuss] Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-22 Thread Gueven Bay
rlhamil wrote a very good explanation for obsolescence Thank you for your explanation. First let me say that I never wanted a life span of 10 years of this first version of Menhir. Let me explain this a bit: 10 years - we all know that - are generations of technology in the IT world. And ,

[osol-discuss] Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD

2007-06-20 Thread Gueven Bay
-constructive) comment is welcome. best regards Gueven Bay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Please, stop posting Help requests on opsol-discuss

2007-06-10 Thread Gueven Bay
Yes, I beg you, please, stop posting here in this list/forum help requests. There is the help forum/list here: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=31 I know I am not an admin here. I don't have the right to say don't do this here. (If I would be an admin then I would warn the

[osol-discuss] Re: [SVOSUG] Tonight, Project Indiana,

2007-05-28 Thread Gueven Bay
So, the presentation was held. All the people there learned what Project Indiana is. Can someone write in some short sentences what Mr. Murdock told you,please? I don't want mp3's or videos but just some notes what Indiana will be. If not: Then I will be announcing Project North Dakota and

[osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-22 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello, I just tried Belenix 0.6 on Qemu. I am using Ubuntu 7.04 as a host and Qemu has the version 0.8.2. With and without the boot option -B atapi-cd-dma-enabled=0 Belenix outputs follwing lines: WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata1): timeout: abort

[osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-10 Thread Gueven Bay
Yes, there are differences. And these diffs have good reasons. AND I don't want to remove these diffs. I want that they stay so, because just for one (and important) example the people working on and with (Open)Solaris have their skills to administer and use and these skills should also work

[osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-10 Thread Gueven Bay
Maybe the Solaris people should adapt some things from Linux. But I vote for staying in the Solaris way. I don't vote as the linked press articles say for bringing more Linux-isims into (Open)Solaris. For example a better package manager: Okay. But build it on top of the pkg_* commands which

[osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-09 Thread Gueven Bay
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/-Sun-hopes-for-Linux-like-Solaris/0,130061733,339276057,00.htm http://news.com.com/Sun+hopes+for+Linux-like+Solaris/2100-1016_3-6182526.html?tag=nefd.lede http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17881 http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/05/10/030226.shtml You know

[osol-discuss] Re: Translating LPI certifications for OpenSolaris

2007-04-22 Thread Gueven Bay
Hi guys, I want to ask you if there is something not good with my effort. I see that proposals for projects are getting answers but I didn't received one. Please, what is your opinion? What can I do to make it more interesting for you? Give some ideas, please. Thank you. regards Gueven This

[osol-discuss] Re: Translating LPI certifications for OpenSolaris

2007-04-21 Thread Gueven Bay
My effort to translate the LPI certifications to OpenSolaris - just as a side note: I also translate to Free and NetBSD - is slowly getting shape. I now wrote some Docbook documents with the objectives and began to enter the apropriate commands, directories, files and so on from OpenSolaris. At

[osol-discuss] Translating LPI certifications for OpenSolaris

2007-04-02 Thread Gueven Bay
if you complete and correct the tools and files that will be listed as important for each of the objectives. best regards Gueven Bay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] How was it possible to build Belenix, Schillix etc?

2007-02-05 Thread Gueven Bay
If there are still closed components/packages(whatever) which are required to build a distribution, how is(was) it possible to make Belenix , Schillix and so on, please? How did the makers of these distributions overcome the closed nature of these packages, please? And maybe a last question:

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10 vs. WinXP prof 64bit on Ultra20 M2

2006-10-24 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello osol hackers, This posting is for those who don't hang around on osnews.com so they missed this news about the benchmark run on geekpatrol. On http://www.geekpatrol.ca/blog/158/ you can read about a run of benchmarks on a Sun Ultra20 M2 which is operated with Sol10 and WinXP 64. Here

[osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-08 Thread Gueven Bay
If the opsol libc is not redistributable how do the actual existing opsol distros do it? What is Belenix doing? What is Schillix using? Did they port the gnu libc to OpenSolaris? Did they port the BSD libc to opsol? How can someone distribute an operating system without the c library? I would

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-08 Thread Gueven Bay
You know Mr Casper, My question is still not answered, yet. Even if the mentioned libraries are Visual Basic libs, this does not matter. But what matter is the qeustion: How and what exactly the existing distributions are distributing -aka giving away, giving to the users- if the system libs

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-08 Thread Gueven Bay
Thank you bochnig for the elaborate answer. It is now clearer to me. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects

2006-08-15 Thread Gueven Bay
And OpenSolaris will not get uptake until you - the OpenSolaris community - made it _crystal clear_ to _normal_ people - not to lawyers in companies - that the CDDL is not a license with which SUN wants to $profit$ . The free software community doesn't like the CDDL and with it OpenSolaris.

[osol-discuss] Re: No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects

2006-08-15 Thread Gueven Bay
And that tell us what, Mr. Schilling ? You know what: In my region there will be in some weeks another gathering of the free sw community with presentations and a small booth and so on. Here you can see: http://www.come2linux.org/psp/veranstaltung.html There will be not ONE talk about

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects

2006-08-15 Thread Gueven Bay
I did not know that... If someone pays for the travel, there is a big chance that I might be able to talk On this way you cannot build a free sw community. This gathering is not a highly paid conference, but just a little event -they even have no entry costs- . But my point is this:

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects

2006-08-15 Thread Gueven Bay
You cannot expect speakers to pay for their own There will be several speakers who are going to pay for their own. There will be several (small) companies - on the booth - who will pay for their own. Sun is able to pay the whole event and this would not even be a prick for them. Sending a

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-25 Thread Gueven Bay
If I may ask gently (without wanting to hijack this thread but also without wanting to open a new thread for this little question): What was the reason that virtual terminals are removed from Solaris some time ago? I just googled and read that there was support for virtual terminals in old

[osol-discuss] A question about minimal installation ...

2006-03-27 Thread Gueven Bay
Hello everybody, I am still seeking a way to make a minimal installation of Solaris. I just installed SX:CR b35 and again I chose the Minimal Installation group or cluster (I don't know how you call it). So, now I have no man pages. I have no localisation. I have no development environment. But