Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:00:32 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ken, * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33 -0600 Jim Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Brian, Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Nitz
Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, Brian Nitz wrote: A few things happened to make crashes more common in recent GNOME builds: 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so some subtle bugs became less subtle. I'm confused. Has something changed recently? or is

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Shawn Walker
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used both Gnome and KDE off and on since 0.x days but ditched both in favor of Xfce in more recent years. In my opinion Sun (along with other US corps) bet on the wrong horse with Gnome. I'm looking forward to

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Brian Nitz wrote: Do you happen to know if any individual desktop components look at their own version number and attempt to override this setting? For example in SNV_82: gtkam --version gives 0.1.14 fc-cache --version gives fontconfig version 2.3.2. fc-cache fontconfig don't use gtk or

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:46:38 -0500 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used both Gnome and KDE off and on since 0.x days but ditched both in favor of Xfce in more recent years. In my opinion Sun (along with

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:00:32 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ken, * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33 -0600 Jim Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Brian, Was there

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Shawn Walker
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:46:38 -0500 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used both Gnome and KDE off and on since 0.x days but ditched

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:07:31 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:00:32 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ken, * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok, but that's different from what's being talked about in this thread. FWIW, I use Gnome in Indiana DP2 every day (and have been since DP2 released) and haven't had a Gnome crash yet. This thread has discussed a few different things - I must be

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:10:24 -0500 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:46:38 -0500 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:52:18 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok, but that's different from what's being talked about in this thread. FWIW, I use Gnome in Indiana DP2 every day (and have been since DP2 released) and haven't had a

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:52:18 -0700 Glenn Lagasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok, but that's different from what's being talked about in this thread. FWIW, I use Gnome in Indiana DP2 every day (and have

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Ken Gunderson wrote: This thread has discussed a few different things - I must be confused but I thought current context was Gnome dumping core, at least in some cases due to ASSERT being enabled for debugging purposes. I'm just reporting that I have Gnome dumping core on _both_ 79 and 84

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Ken Gunderson wrote: I'm very familiar with it. It's *nice*, but I don't have a reason to leave Gnome at this point (and if I did, it'd probably be to something like OpenBox/FluxBox). OpenBox Rocks! Hint, hint Blastwave ;) Hint, hint *patch*. Glynn

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Mario Goebbels
1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so some subtle bugs became less subtle. Can/Will this be disabled in the JDS builds? -mg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Nitz
Mario Goebbels wrote: 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so some subtle bugs became less subtle. Can/Will this be disabled in the JDS builds? -mg Yes core on ASSERT should be disabled before any product release. The intention is to uncover

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Jim Walker
Thanks Brian, Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about making one. Finding the bugs is a good thing, but impacting users that don't have time to be beta testers at the moment isn't. I'm focused on testing myself, so understand both view points. My system is still crashing

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Nitz
Jim Walker wrote: Thanks Brian, Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about making one. Finding the bugs is a good thing, but impacting users that don't have time to be beta testers at the moment isn't. I'll ask the RE team about this. I'm focused on testing myself, so

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33 -0600 Jim Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Brian, Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about making one. Finding the bugs is a good thing, but impacting users that don't have time to be beta testers at the moment isn't. +1. Makes OS

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Glenn Lagasse
Hey Ken, * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33 -0600 Jim Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Brian, Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about making one. Finding the bugs is a good thing, but impacting users that don't have time

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Brian Nitz wrote: A few things happened to make crashes more common in recent GNOME builds: 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so some subtle bugs became less subtle. I'm confused. Has something changed recently? or is this still the code in