Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Edward Martinez
when Oracle says Oracle Solaris, that includes the OpenSolaris distro.nbsp; For instance, if you buy Oracle Solaris support, it *includes* support for running the OpenSolaris distro on that machine. that clarifies everything for me. for now on when Oracle mentions oracle solaris, now I

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: How is that any different from how Sun positioned it? I always got the impression that OS was the development platform for Solaris Next. How has that changed? fpsm I had the impression with a  stable release and

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Matthias Pfützner
The question of Support for Solaris/OpenSolaris has been discussed close ad infinitum here already. Please check the archives! And, the decision to use OpenSolaris on a production server is CU's (or yours), not Sun's, nor Oracle's... Matthias You (Fredrich Maney) wrote: On Mon, Jun 28,

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Chad Welsh
Matthias oh god of the forum shut the 4uck up you are an annoying koolaid drinking asshole!!! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Chad Welsh
testing the waters to see if I can get away with treating Oracle employee's the same way they treat us community members and hope that I don't get banned from this one way free for all. I hope there is someone that can realign the employee's attitudes when it comes to treating people right on

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Chad, that's getting personal now... At least in Germany, the country where I live, I would be allowed to sue you for such words... So, please, stop that! Matthias Du (Chad Welsh) schreibst: Matthias oh god of the forum shut the 4uck up you are an annoying koolaid drinking

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Chad, again: I would love to tell you more, if I would know, and if I would be allowed to. So, again: You're using the WRONG forum to ask these questions. All those, working for Oracle/Sun here on this alias simply can not tell you anything, either because they don't know, or because they are

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Calum Benson
On 29 Jun 2010, at 15:16, Chad Welsh wrote: testing the waters to see if I can get away with treating Oracle employee's the same way they treat us community members and hope that I don't get banned from this one way free for all. If you're aware of Oracle employees personally abusing

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Chad Welsh wrote: testing the waters to see if I can get away with treating Oracle employee's the same way they treat us community members and hope that I don't get banned from this one way free for all. It doesn't matter if the person you're attacking is an Oracle employee or not - that

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 29 Jun 2010, at 15:16, Chad Welsh wrote: testing the waters to see if I can get away with treating Oracle employee's the same way they treat us community members and hope that I don't get banned from this one way free for all. If you're aware of Oracle employees personally abusing

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Chad Welsh
Matthias Pfützner and company, It has nothing to do with what you know or not, you sir are a pompus ass and treat people with total disrespect!!! Just because you work at Oracle and drink the Koolaid you can tell someone to go piss up a rope and use the forums as a personal insult

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Jones
I do hope the development branch of solaris called opensolaris can become a more autominous community in the future. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Edward Martinez
For those that were not able to watch the webcast. quote: Extending its leadership in the x86 clustered systems market, Oracle announced its next-generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems, including rackmount servers, blades and a 10 GbE cluster fabric. These systems, which ship with

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Orvar Korvar
Will be interesting to see benchmarks! :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread dd pn
Will be interesting to see benchmarks! :o) For X4800 see, http://blogs.sun.com/BestPerf/entry/20100628_x4800_spec_cpu2006_rate -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Bruno Sousa
On 28-6-2010 21:41, dd pn wrote: Will be interesting to see benchmarks! :o) For X4800 see, http://blogs.sun.com/BestPerf/entry/20100628_x4800_spec_cpu2006_rate Let's hope this is just an omission , so far, but on the OS compatibility list of all these new servers, Opensolaris doesn't

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread John Plocher
In Oracle's mind, one is a development work in progress, the other is a revenue product. Guess which one gets the corporate focus? -John Let's hope this is just an omission , so far, but on the OS compatibility list of all these new servers, Opensolaris doesn't appears...Only Oracle VM,

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Bruno Sousa
Maybe i'm not seeing the big picture, but i thought that the all ZFS appliance line runned in some custom OpenSolaris, making OSOL a revenue product. But than again...what do i understand about business anyway... Bruno On 28-6-2010 21:52, John Plocher wrote: In Oracle's mind, one is a

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote:  I guess OpenSolaris was  position only as a developmental platform, something similar to fedora. How is that any different from how Sun positioned it? I always got the impression that OS was the development platform

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Brian Utterback
On 06/28/10 15:59, Bruno Sousa wrote: Maybe i'm not seeing the big picture, but i thought that the all ZFS appliance line runned in some custom OpenSolaris, making OSOL a revenue product. But than again...what do i understand about business anyway... Bruno No, that makes the ZFS

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: In Oracle's mind, one is a development work in progress, the other is a revenue product. Guess which one gets the corporate focus? Whether OpenSolaris is a revenue product can only be proven by cutting it off and then checking how much the sales go

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Erik Trimble
On 6/28/2010 12:52 PM, John Plocher wrote: In Oracle's mind, one is a development work in progress, the other is a revenue product. Guess which one gets the corporate focus? -John Don't make the mistake of thinking that OpenSolaris is going to somehow be finished at some point, and

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread Edward Martinez
How is that any different from how Sun positioned it? I always got the impression that OS was the development platform for Solaris Next. How has that changed? fpsm I had the impression with a stable release and a service contract, OpenSolaris could be also be used in production

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread bso...@epinfante.com
message - From: Brian Utterback brian.utterb...@oracle.com Date: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 22:17 Subject: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org On 06/28/10 15:59, Bruno Sousa wrote: Maybe i'm not seeing the big picture

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems

2010-06-28 Thread bso...@epinfante.com
of Oracle... So my best bet is to wait until the next Oracle conference... Bruno Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com Date: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 22:35 Subject: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems To: John Plocher