[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Helmar Wodtke
> On 7/27/05, Helmar Wodtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's btw my impression that (Open)Solaris-people > talk a lot about stability and do forget to do a step > forward. Solaris is not the best piece of technology > if I need a compressing file system: Linux ist better > at that point. I have

[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Helmar Wodtke
> discussing about interfaces and standards is a good > thing, standards are > a good thing, the hack&slay > mentality often shown in the so-called "open source > community" is not. Try to understand it from a different view: the source is not available, so there is no reason to keep compatiblity

[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Bob Palowoda
> On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 23:31, Helmar Wodtke wrote: > > I'm really impressed by the discussion about ksh. > > discussing about interfaces and standards is a good > thing, standards are > a good thing, the hack&slay > mentality often shown in the so-called "open source > community" is not. > > pa

[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Helmar Wodtke
> Helmar Wodtke wrote: > > Hi at all, > > > > I'm really impressed by the discussion about ksh. > But I dont get the point. > > > > I've seen notes about ARC and so on. Does it matter > about something that does not exist? > > (NB: I am not an official Sun Spokesperson for this > topic) > > It

[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-28 Thread UNIX admin
> Why? That's not that important. You can not know now > what other distros will be good for. It could be that > there is a distro you can put in your coffee-cup and > that coffee-cup communicates with the computer you > are in front of - so probably there is not enough > space for ksh in such a di

[osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-29 Thread Ferdinand O. Tempel
> At Sun, we _must_ use Solaris10 as the Baseline for discussions about future changes simply because we plan on building Solaris11 on the OpenSolaris foundation. Our customers will upgrade from Solaris10, and will expect their applications to continue working. One of the great assets of OpenSolar

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/27/05, Helmar Wodtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ext2fs: > > http://www.sun.drydog.com/faq/9.html#9.24 > > Well, that's like this access to some misconfigured Windows-Partitions on > Linux... It's read-only and I can access only one partition (question: also > only one if I have two disk

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/27/05, Helmar Wodtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > discussing about interfaces and standards is a good > > thing, standards are > > a good thing, the hack&slay > > mentality often shown in the so-called "open source > > community" is not. > > Try to understand it from a different view: the s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Shawn Walker wrote: "a)" may be the safer way but is not always necessary. Your example of Postscript interpreter doesn't fit nearly as well because you're talking about (as far as I know) is an undcoumented proprietary file format, Not that it matters a whole lot to this discussion, but I beli

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-27 Thread Joseph Mocker
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: "a)" may be the safer way but is not always necessary. Your example of Postscript interpreter doesn't fit nearly as well because you're talking about (as far as I know) is an undcoumented proprietary file format, Not that it matters a whole lot to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only possible solutions are: > > a) have original source code > > b) have the people that coded the original. > > > > My personal opinion is that a) is the safer way. > > "a)" may be the safer way but is not always necessary. Your example of > Posts

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-28 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/28/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > POSIX documentations (man pages) are written in a way that allows you > to implement all features of the program from only reading the apropriate > man page. I'm not certain how that point is relevant. All we know in this case is that ksh88

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-07-29 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 01:07:37AM -0700, Ferdinand O. Tempel wrote: > One of the great assets of OpenSolaris is that Sun people are > involved to drive development forward. However, Sun itself has > another interest than OpenSolaris. OpenSolaris wants to move forward > at a faster pace than Solar

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some impressions (ksh related)

2005-08-02 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 01:07:37AM -0700, Ferdinand O. Tempel wrote: > > > [ ... ] > > As time progresses OpenSolaris will run ahead of the > > music, and introduce incomaptibilites with Solaris. That's > > This is not the plan and is not our announc