Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-08-01 Thread Mike Kupfer
Keith On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 05:13:55PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The reason why nothing with enough significance happened so far, is that Sun people did stop any attempt to start with significant work. Keith How, mind control? Please send me privately any messages you've Keith received

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-31 Thread Ian Collins
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:26 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: RTF I am telling you, point blank, based on both my experience within RTF the open source community and my research background in software RTF architecture, that OpenSolaris will fail to achieve the goals set RTF by

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread John Beck
Roy Right now, Sun has only exposed the done gate of OpenSolaris, which is Roy equivalent to throwing code over the wall. The reason I talk about that Roy wall is because one of the primary goals of the governance proposal is Roy to avoid a situation like that of Darwin, wherein the community is

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Bart Smaalders
Roy T. Fielding wrote: I think continued use of teamware as the integration mechanism will prevent us from building a collaborative community. Only if we cannot make forks visible. Solaris engineers tend to use a workspace (fork) for a bug fix or two; making everyone's bug fix workspaces

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 11:44, Roy T. Fielding wrote: to collaborate as equals. I think continued use of teamware as the integration mechanism will prevent us from building a collaborative community. Teamware the tool and the way it is used inside Sun for the ON consolidation supports exactly

Re: [osol-discuss] The teamware effect

2005-07-29 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-29 11:44]: Visibility is an essential aspect to collaboration and equal participation. Whether or not you believe that a group of developers in the larger OpenSolaris universe should have a choice about whether their ongoing work should be