Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> I'd love to hear suggestions *because* I do have code > that I'd like to see > run on both Solaris and Linux which reports fine > grained timing information > with some degree of accuracy. gethrtime() is available on Linux if you install the RTLinux extension to the kernel. The easiest way to d

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Actually, gethrtime is in section 3C: > > "(3C)These functions, together with those of Section 2, > constitute the standard C library" > > And indeed, if we do some further digging: > > http://docs.hp.com/en/B2355-60130/gethrtime.3C.html (HP-UX 11iv3) > > So, this says more a

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-30 Thread a b
> > It's a matter of pride to deliver a quality product that "just works" and> > > > doesn't break something else.> > I write things for my own purposes and I > > often need to use the high> resolution timers. I have no idea if that is > > portable into the Linux world> and I guess I never care

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread S h i v
On 7/29/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please drop this thread. It is a pure waste of bandwidth and time. > Yes. And my apologies for contributing to the drag. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread Doug Scott
UNIX admin wrote: >> To many community members *gratis* doesn't mean >> anything as long as it >> is proprietary and the status can change as and when >> a corporate >> pleases. >> > > That's just too radical and borders on religion, for all the wrong reasons. > > History teaches us that ideol

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread UNIX admin
> To many community members *gratis* doesn't mean > anything as long as it > is proprietary and the status can change as and when > a corporate > pleases. That's just too radical and borders on religion, for all the wrong reasons. History teaches us that ideologies almost always end up in a fiasc

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread S h i v
On 7/29/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One point I would like to bring to notice. > > When talking about "opensolaris", "free/open source > > software" and the > > community, *gratis* doesn't mean anything at all. > > What does that have to do with it? > That was in response to(belo

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread UNIX admin
> One point I would like to bring to notice. > When talking about "opensolaris", "free/open source > software" and the > community, *gratis* doesn't mean anything at all. What does that have to do with it? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread UNIX admin
> That might work for you but but for those who > volunteer their focus is > on their platform of choice - if it happens to work > on others then its a > bonus, but unless they're getting something in return > for supporting and > maintaining support for other platforms, I hardly > blame them. Oh,

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread S h i v
On 7/28/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we? Probably. Will we? I most certainly *won't*. People need to be made > sensitive to these issues! > There's tons of GCC-only garbage out there precisely because the majority > doesn't have a clue that there are better, professional compil

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 03:35 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > One could argue that since the code is written by > > volunteers it would be > > highly hypocritical to pass judgement and yet the > > individual making the > > statements doing very little in contribution to > > improving the 'code > > quali

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> One could argue that since the code is written by >> volunteers it would be >> highly hypocritical to pass judgement and yet the >> individual making the >> statements doing very little in contribution to >> improving the 'code >> quality'. > > So what if the code is written by volunteers? We'r

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread UNIX admin
> One could argue that since the code is written by > volunteers it would be > highly hypocritical to pass judgement and yet the > individual making the > statements doing very little in contribution to > improving the 'code > quality'. So what if the code is written by volunteers? We're all volun

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 07:22 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > Can we remove the anti-gnu, anti-Linux rhetoric from > > this list, as it > > get us nowhere. > > Can we? Probably. Will we? I most certainly *won't*. People need to be > made sensitive to these issues! There's tons of GCC-only garbage out

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-29 Thread UNIX admin
> Can we remove the anti-gnu, anti-Linux rhetoric from > this list, as it > get us nowhere. Can we? Probably. Will we? I most certainly *won't*. People need to be made sensitive to these issues! There's tons of GCC-only garbage out there precisely because the majority doesn't have a clue that t

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Collins
UNIX admin wrote: > > That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still > plagued with problems: > > - GCC generates crappy, slow code > Sometimes, sometimes not. > - GCC allows one to write crappy, non-portable code (and doesn't even blink) > If you don't use "-Wall - p

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Scott
UNIX admin wrote: >> Meh, generally speaking Solaris + GCC, and everything >> works nicely out >> of the box. >> > > That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still > plagued with problems: > > - GCC generates crappy, slow code > Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Usually

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> Meh, generally speaking Solaris + GCC, and everything > works nicely out > of the box. That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still plagued with problems: - GCC generates crappy, slow code - GCC allows one to write crappy, non-portable code (and doesn't even blink) -

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, I tried these instructions and they worked too. The problem is, I have already fontforge installed (by following Doug Scotts instructions): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=35866&tstart=0 So could be that your instructions worked, only because I already had the infrastruc

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> The problem is that a lot of > authors are no longer > interested in portable code besides their Linux home > system. > > This is a problem that was not present in former > days. This is unfortunately true. I remember those days well. People actually *coded* software, and it was a matter of *

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In former times, all software did follow Open Source ethics and was made > > cleanly portable to all important platforms. > > Read on ... > > > > > I really hope that the free availability of Solaris and Sun Studio will > > change things back to a state

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> If I had invested all that time into Unix I would > have become an expert now. Well, certainly can't argue with that logic. That's exactly why I refused to *waste my time* with all the other OSes out there. I did two "rounds" of Linux sysadmin, and then Linux system engineering, but coming fro

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 13:06 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's > priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes > years of experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> It looks like all of you just did a compile as it was > a trivial thing! How the &%&&" did you do it? OK, I admit, I'm guilty as charged. I could have documented the whole process better, as in step-by-step, but what I wrote was after the fact, and next day on top of that, so I had to do it fr

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority > list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of > experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a terrific job with Solaris, and I > and many more really appr

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a terrific job with S

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Orvar Korvar
Argh! Now Im getting frustrated AGAIN! ¤/&%(/#"¤"#! It looks like all of you just did a compile as it was a trivial thing! How the &%&&" did you do it? Its feels like, when you really struggle and struggle to do something really difficult, and there comes a guy and does the thing on the fly

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread UNIX admin
Update: I also have gotten wine compiled without any problems. Didn't have the time to test it yet though. Here is what I did: 1. downloaded the latest wine (0.9.41) from winehq (or some such) 2. set up the environment (I use `tcsh`, so these will need to be adapted for Bourne shell family): se

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread S h i v
On 7/27/07, Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I have really good hope to get Wine going with two instructions sets up to date. I am active at several user forums, and I will post your instructions there. At the forums, there are several questions on Wine and Solaris, all answered nega

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread Orvar Korvar
Hey guys, I am sorry that I yelled a bit. I was in a bad mood and I shouldnt have done that. It was stupid of me. Please accept my apologizes! I have got a very nice answer from DOUG SCOTT at http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=35866&tstart=0 that almost seems to work. I will dig

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread UNIX admin
> I am using snv_b67 w. SUNWcxall cluster installed, I > downloaded the mauture wine, and I get a rundll32.exe > not found: ... > Last time I had used a few years ago, windows dll's > were not needed, so much for MS independence, so is > there a work around? I've no idea; I haven't had the resour

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread James Carlson
John Brewer writes: > I downloaded gcc (GCC) 3.4.6, Why? Gcc comes with Solaris, and works. > gnu bin tools , freetype-2.3.5 and fontforge_full-20070723 configure and > compiled ok, however wine-0.9.41 compiled with this error: > ="" -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing > -Wdec

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread Doug Scott
Orvar Korvar wrote: > For instance, when I try to get VLC player running, _no one_ has ever > succeeded to compile it for Solaris. That... sounds scary. VLC builds and runs on Solaris Express using pkgbuild. The only problem is that playing mp4 files seg-faults at the moment. All other formats

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread Mark Phalan
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 01:55 -0700, Orvar Korvar wrote: > I am trying to migrate totally to Solaris Express community build 67, and I > want DC++ however, in some DC++ hubs they only allow certain DC++ clients > from the Windows environment. (For bittorrent I use the java klient Azarus > which I

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-26 Thread Orvar Korvar
Well, I certainly can not pay what your work is worth, thats for sure. Say it takes you 2-3 hours to figure this out. That would be some serious money (for me as a private person). A company would have no problems to pay you what your time is worth, though. Maybe it is better to drop Solaris ins

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Anil Gulecha
Hi, I also remmeber one of the members from BOSUG having compiled wine without issues using pkgbuild : pkgbuild.sourceforge.net You could try that.. ~Anil On 7/26/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Shit Im frustrated right now. Anybody knows how to get Wine on this "#"#&%& > > S

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread John Brewer
I downloaded gcc (GCC) 3.4.6, gnu bin tools , freetype-2.3.5 and fontforge_full-20070723 configure and compiled ok, however wine-0.9.41 compiled with this error: ="" -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wwrite-strings -Wpointer-arith -g -O2 -o po

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread John Brewer
The Wine can be so good, the seeds of dll's can be bitter, as we all know so well, back to the old drive c: we go and along with it's licenses! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> but you may find the grapes to be sweet at : >> http://www.blastwave.org/wine > > No Dennis, seriously now, I'm intrigued: > > why does wine have its own URI @Blastwave? No other app is treated that way. > > Why isn't Wine just another `pkg-get` package, just like all the others? > It

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread John Brewer
I am using snv_b67 w. SUNWcxall cluster installed, I downloaded the mauture wine, and I get a rundll32.exe not found: bash-3.00# cd /opt/cfw/wine/bin bash-3.00# echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/opt/cfw/wine/bin:. bash-3.00# wine s

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread John Brewer
I am using snv_b67 w. SUNWcxall cluster installed, I downloaded the mauture wine, and I get a rundll32.exe not found: bash-3.00# cd /opt/cfw/wine/bin bash-3.00# echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/opt/cfw/wine/bin:. bash-3.00# wine s

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread UNIX admin
> but you may find the grapes to be sweet at : > http://www.blastwave.org/wine No Dennis, seriously now, I'm intrigued: why does wine have its own URI @Blastwave? No other app is treated that way. Why isn't Wine just another `pkg-get` package, just like all the others? This message

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread UNIX admin
> This compile thing is a very very messy business > indeed. Maybe a company that compiles your stuff to a > desired platform, would be profitable? Funny you should mention it, today I had been thinking about starting a consulting business for exactly that. (:-) It took me many years to figure o

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Orvar Korvar
Dear OpenSolaris community; I have tried for several days to get Wine working on Solaris, where Ive downloaded Wine from blastwave/wine Ive tried the package, and I tried to compile it. To no avail. I would really really much appreciate any hints as this drives me mad. Did I say mad? Madd

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Shit Im frustrated right now. Anybody knows how to get Wine on this "#"#&%& > Solaris > With language like that I have no idea why I bother to respond. I will pretend that you wrote : Dear OpenSolaris community : I am trying in vain to get wine to flow on Solaris and am reall

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Orvar Korvar
Shit Im frustrated right now. Anybody knows how to get Wine on this "#"#&%& Solaris This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ive tried to compile it yesterday, but I had some problems. : o ) I will try again today. This compile thing is a very very messy business indeed. Maybe a company that compiles your stuff to a desired platform, would be profitable? I found the "games" section here. It seems that several people

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Andras Barna
hi tried linuxdcpp[1]? never tried on solaris, but worth a try imho:) [1] http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de On 7/25/07, Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to migrate totally to Solaris Express community build 67, and I > want DC++ however, in some DC++ hubs they only allow certain

[osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-25 Thread Orvar Korvar
I am trying to migrate totally to Solaris Express community build 67, and I want DC++ however, in some DC++ hubs they only allow certain DC++ clients from the Windows environment. (For bittorrent I use the java klient Azarus which I found a Solaris package for. For VLC player and Winamp I use mp