On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 08:14:58PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...
> Yes; the install program should make more sense out of the keyboard
> input; it doesn't do so now. Even with terminal properly set, it can't
> use Fx keys on anything other than a Sun type terminal (not xterm,
> usually)
e
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new.
>
> Personally I disagree and I think they got it correct. On an Apple
> keyboard there is no NumLock button.
>
> Apple knows a LOT more about usability than most of us do and they get
> it right for naive
Dennis Clarke wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Rich Teer wrote:
- numlock on by default
Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state
of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that.
If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will
be happ
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> Rich Teer wrote:
- numlock on by default
>>>
>>> Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state
>>> of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that.
>>> If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will
>>> be
>Or would it perhaps make more sense to have the install program(s) do a
>better job of processing input? For the most part, there are very few
>valid keys for each input. Instead of echo'ing garbage to the screen,
>why not print a message, or beep, or do nothing
Yes; the install progra
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Rich Teer wrote:
- numlock on by default
Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state
of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that.
If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will
be happy.
Overriding the B
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Rich Teer wrote:
- numlock on by default
Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state
of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that.
If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will
be happy.
Overriding t
Rich Teer wrote:
- numlock on by default
Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state
of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that.
If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will
be happy.
Overriding the BIOS setting to force numl
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>> Simply put, a friend of mine tried to install Solaris and gave up because
>> he
>> was convinced that the graphics card and keyboard were not supported.
>> Forget MAC and the fact that there are digits on the QWERTY keyboard
>> across
>> the top ro
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> not any longer ... see message from Jan Setje-Eilers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on that issue.
Yep, saw that...
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote:
Simply put, a friend of mine tried to install Solaris and gave up because he
was convinced that the graphics card and keyboard were not supported.
Forget MAC and the fact that there are digits on the QWERTY keyboard across
the top row. The average user
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> Your a rare bird.
Rare?! Casper is unique! :-)
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> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Alan Hargreaves wrote:
>
>> I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that should
>> be
>> *really* simple to do something about.
>>
>> - graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
>
> Great idea.
not any longer ... see message from Jan Setje-Eilers
<
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Since PCs have a default "Numlock on" setting, I see no reason to
> enforce this in Solaris; certainly not at the detriment of people who
> go out of their way to disable it or who hit numlock as soon as they see
> the numlock light come on.
As some
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Alan Hargreaves wrote:
> I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that should be
> *really* simple to do something about.
>
> - graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
Great idea.
> - numlock on by default
Not a fan of this; many systems allow on
>> He is right handed and like a lot of right handed people he simply moved
>> his
>> hand to the numeric keypad and hit the "1" key. But the numlock option on
>> the keyboard is not on when you boot the Solaris CDROM and thus he got
>> "garbage". Since the backspace key has never worked right h
>>Yes ... I mean the numlock option is ON and the numeric keypad
>>on normal PC style keyboards works as digits not arrorws because
>>we already have a separate keypad for arrows on the keyboard.
>
> We also have separate digits keys; they layout of the standard
> four arrows is awkward at best.
>
> He is right handed and like a lot of right handed people he simply moved his
> hand to the numeric keypad and hit the "1" key. But the numlock option on
> the keyboard is not on when you boot the Solaris CDROM and thus he got
> "garbage". Since the backspace key has never worked right he got mo
>Yes ... I mean the numlock option is ON and the numeric keypad
>on normal PC style keyboards works as digits not arrorws because
>we already have a separate keypad for arrows on the keyboard.
We also have separate digits keys; they layout of the standard
four arrows is awkward at best.
>> Ifyou
On Jul 10, 2006, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, absolutely. And it could even do what windows does when you
mistype
your password; it will tell you when capslock was on.
Mac OS X does this as well at the login screen and other places.
-john
_
On Jul 10, 2006, at 5:15 AM, Calum Benson wrote:
On 10 Jul 2006, at 10:34, Darren J Moffat wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On MacOS X there is no way to ever change the state of NumLock
is is always On. Even on a Sun Type 6.
So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new.
Personally I disagre
>
>>I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that
>>should be *really* simple to do something about.
>>
>>- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
>>- numlock on by default
>>
>>What do others think?
>
>
> If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default";
> I thi
On 10 Jul 2006, at 10:34, Darren J Moffat wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric
keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere.
I use them all the time.
I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like
a Sun type 6/7 even
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable
is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have
a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override
that firmware setting.
I'm
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable
>> is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have
>> a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override
>> that firmware setting.
>
>I'm not assert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable
is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have
a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override
that firmware setting.
I'm not asserting we should
>> So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new.
>
>Personally I disagree and I think they got it correct. On an Apple
>keyboard there is no NumLock button.
If a keyboard has a numlock button and Mac OSX doesn't support it;
MacOS X is broken. I wonder how you can even argue against that.
I'm not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric
keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere.
I use them all the time.
I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like
a Sun type 6/7 even needs the different states.
On MacOS X there is
>On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric
>keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere.
I use them all the time.
>I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like
>a Sun type 6/7 even needs the different states.
>
>On MacOS X there is no way to ever change
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that
should be *really* simple to do something about.
- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
- numlock on by default
What do others think?
If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default";
>I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that
>should be *really* simple to do something about.
>
>- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
>- numlock on by default
>
>What do others think?
If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default";
I think I'm ging to
Dennis Clarke wrote:
Can we take the current nice blue login screen graphic and snap it into the
GRUB splash screen
No - it uses too many colors and has things in the wrong places, which is why
a special version was created for grub, which is used for the grub installed
on disk after the instal
I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that
should be *really* simple to do something about.
- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd
- numlock on by default
What do others think?
alan.
--
Alan Hargreaves - http://blogs.sun.com/tpenta
Staff Engineer (Kernel/VOSJEC
Recently I had a friend ask me why his ATI graphics card was not working
with Solaris 10 Update 2. I asked him what kind of machine it was and it
turned out to be some common dog hardware. Nothing fancy. But he was
convinced that the graphics card was being ignored because the installation
was
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