Re: [opensuse-factory] Skip graphical welcome-message of SL/SLES 10

2006-05-21 Thread Thorolf Godawa
Hi, Activate caps lock before it is displayed. If this doesn't help, additionally hold shift while booting. I tried this but it's quite hard to get pressed the key(s) during the very short period the VM-BIOS is shown but I think I was fast enough several times. Anyway it didn't help! Now I

[opensuse] kde3-i18n-ru is not on CDs?

2006-05-21 Thread Mark Goldstein
Hi, It seems kde3-i18n-ru-3.5.1-9.noarch.rpm is missing from i386 set of CDs (at least, I have not checked DVD or x86-64 set). It is not shown in package list in YAST as well. It is there in inst-source though. Am I missing something? -- Mark Goldstein

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-21 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thursday 18 May 2006 11:20, Andreas Otto wrote: rug failed to delete a ZYPP service: ERROR: Service 'dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060516-211625' not found Looks like whole installation suorce handling is broken (!!). Does this already have a BZ entry? -- //

[opensuse] experiences with sataII hardware raid

2006-05-21 Thread Joop Boonen
All, I want to buy a main board with sataII raid. Does someone have any experience in this field. Which controllers/main board work will in hardware raid? In combination with OpenSuSE? Regrads, Joop Boonen. - To unsubscribe,

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread James Ogley
And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all. I see quite a few of them involved in some way or other, but when the decision was taken by SUSE that it was going to be 2.12 in 10.1, what were they supposed to do? Try to slip 2.14 into the build

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Sven Burmeister
Hi! Am Sonntag, 21. Mai 2006 01:46 schrieb Keith Kastorff: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 01:28 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: I would really like to have an explanation: why is it that other distributions (e.g. Fedora and Ubuntu) already have packages for (at least) GNOME 2.14 but none are provided

RE: [opensuse] experiences with sataII hardware raid

2006-05-21 Thread Alain Black
-Original Message- From: Joop Boonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:09 AM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: [opensuse] experiences with sataII hardware raid All, I want to buy a main board with sataII raid. Does someone have any experience in this

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Ogley wrote: And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all. I see quite a few of them involved in some way or other, but when the By involved, I meant being on this mailing-list and/or on

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: From a technical point-of-view, this mail would belong to opensuse-packaging, but I'd like to address a more general problem, which is why I post here. I would really like to have an explanation: why is it that other

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 09:59:30AM +0200, Sven Burmeister wrote: Hi! Am Sonntag, 21. Mai 2006 01:46 schrieb Keith Kastorff: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 01:28 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: I would really like to have an explanation: why is it that other distributions (e.g. Fedora and Ubuntu)

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Sven Burmeister
Hi! Am Sonntag, 21. Mai 2006 10:51 schrieb Pascal Bleser: The issue is that GNOME 2.14 is not available in GNOME supplementary, neither for 10.1 nor for 10.0. KDE 3.5.2 has been released roughly at around the same time (more or less) and has been available in KDE supplementary for quite some

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Sunday 21 May 2006 12:05, Marcus Meissner wrote: Maybe the Gnome/Mono-devs had to and still have to spend all their time on integrating zen, because it got released in beta-state? Zen Linux Management is yet another team. :) Is the same team responsible for the greatest regression in

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Schlander
søndag 21 maj 2006 12:33 skrev Janne Karhunen: Is the same team responsible for the greatest regression in 10.1 that adding new installation sources fails most of the time :/ ? Do you already have a BZ entry of this? I think this is a bit off topic, but.. If you had tried the

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Sunday 21 May 2006 14:13, Martin Schlander wrote: Is the same team responsible for the greatest regression in 10.1 that adding new installation sources fails most of the time :/ ? Do you already have a BZ entry of this? I think this is a bit off topic, but.. If you had tried the

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all. Well, lets list some of the most visible for 10.1 development: Garry Ekker and Stanislav Brabec, GNOME

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Peter Flodin
On 5/21/06, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miguel de Icaza is leading GNOME AFAIK, and Novell employs quite a lot of GNOME developers.. so... where are the SUSE Linux packages ? Miguel is more in care of Mono. For those interested in Miguel de Icasa he was interviewed on FLOSS

[opensuse] Download-DVD and boxed DVD

2006-05-21 Thread Andreas Meier
Hello, exists a list of the packages, which are in the boxed version, but not in the download-version. Will the DVD of the boxed version be available for download too. Greets Andreas Meier -- Bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten sparen: GMX SmartSurfer! Kostenlos downloaden:

Re: [opensuse] Download-DVD and boxed DVD

2006-05-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Andreas Meier wrote: exists a list of the packages, which are in the boxed version, but not in the download-version. Will the DVD of the boxed version be available for download too. http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-May/0555.html (I'v attached the the diff

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 14:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all. Well, lets list some of the most

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 22:21 +1000, Peter Flodin wrote: On 5/21/06, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miguel de Icaza is leading GNOME AFAIK, and Novell employs quite a lot of GNOME developers.. so... where are the SUSE Linux packages ? Miguel is more in care of Mono. For those

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 08:53:32AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 14:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:33:15PM +0300, Janne Karhunen wrote: On Sunday 21 May 2006 12:05, Marcus Meissner wrote: Maybe the Gnome/Mono-devs had to and still have to spend all their time on integrating zen, because it got released in beta-state? Zen Linux Management is yet another

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 15:11 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 08:53:32AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 14:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: And

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Kenneth Schneider wrote: KNetworkManager at least saves the WEP keys (in kwallet). I think nm-applet does the same using gnome-keyring. Yes it does but I installed fresh three times (just to test various things) and each time after saving the info in Kwallet it

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-21 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 21 May 2006 03:08, Janne Karhunen wrote: Looks like whole installation suorce handling is broken (!!). Does this already have a BZ entry? Hi Janne, There's been a fair amount of SLE traffic on this topic. I think the answer to your question is 'yes' but you could search the database

Re: [opensuse] Download-DVD and boxed DVD

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 02:42:57PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-May/0555.html (I'v attached the the diff again to this mail, as it's not downloadable from the archives. Henne?) Why not put it on either a Novell or openSUSE web page? -- houghi

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread jdd
I would really like opensuse list _not_ make trolls like suse-e do. please be positive or stop. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

[opensuse] Zmd Log rotate

2006-05-21 Thread Doug Currey
I like to have my logs rotate on a weekly. I am having a problem with zmd-messages.log it rotates daily in the form of zmd-messages.log.2006-05-20. I can't find the entry for this log. In the logrotate.d directory there is an entry for zmd-backend.log that I now have setup to rotate weekly but

Re: [opensuse] Download-DVD and boxed DVD

2006-05-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 21 May 2006, houghi wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 02:42:57PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-May/0555.html (I'v attached the the diff again to this mail, as it's not downloadable from the archives. Henne?) Why not put it on either

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
And now, the general problem: I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all. I see quite a few of them involved in some way or other, but when the By involved, I meant being on this mailing-list and/or on opensuse-packaging. Besides a few of them being aggregated on

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Garry Ekker and Stanislav Brabec, GNOME packagers. Robert Love, NetworkManager... You like it in 10.1, right? Larry Ewing, f-spot ... working nicely. Aaron Bockover, banshee ... working nicely and greatly enhanced for 10.1. Jeffrey Steadfast, gnome-volume-manager ... greatly enhanced for

Re: [opensuse] Download-DVD and boxed DVD

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 05:00:07PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2006, houghi wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 02:42:57PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-May/0555.html (I'v attached the the diff again to this mail, as it's not

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Well, lets list some of the most visible for 10.1 development: Garry Ekker and Stanislav Brabec, GNOME packagers. Robert Love, NetworkManager... You like it in 10.1, right? Larry Ewing, f-spot ... working nicely. Aaron Bockover, banshee ... working nicely and greatly enhanced for 10.1.

Re: [opensuse] Zmd Log rotate

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:48:46AM -0400, Doug Currey wrote: snip Do not take this as a flame. It is intend to get you the best support for now and in the future. openSUSE is the comunity and SUSE is the distribution. This means that this openSUSE mailinglist is about the community. The

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:18:07AM -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: They are *developers*, that should be developing and not bothered with all this noise. Developing really good stuff, which they do, is hard work and requires concentrated effort. That is so wrong on so many levels I do not

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Rajko M
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:33:15PM +0300, Janne Karhunen wrote: On Sunday 21 May 2006 12:05, Marcus Meissner wrote: Maybe the Gnome/Mono-devs had to and still have to spend all their time on integrating zen, because it got released in beta-state? Zen Linux Management

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Maaskant
Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 13:13 +0200, schreef Martin Schlander: If you had tried the packagemanagement (rug/zen/yast) a month ago you would be amazed that it almost works now. My handling of this issue is (1) report bugs/give feedback and thus help get it right for 10.2 Surely we can expect

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Well, lets list some of the most visible for 10.1 development: Garry Ekker and Stanislav Brabec, GNOME packagers. Robert Love, NetworkManager... You like it in 10.1, right? Larry Ewing, f-spot ... working nicely. Aaron Bockover, banshee ... working nicely and

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 06:44:30PM +0200, Chris Maaskant wrote: Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 13:13 +0200, schreef Martin Schlander: If you had tried the packagemanagement (rug/zen/yast) a month ago you would be amazed that it almost works now. My handling of this issue is (1) report bugs/give

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Maaskant
Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 19:14 +0200, schreef Marcus Meissner: Surely we can expect packagemanagement to get stable with some updates so we don't have to wait 8 months for 10.2? Yes, you can. Good, you had me worried.. Thanks :-) Chris Maaskant.

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Kastorff
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 16:40 +0200, jdd wrote: I would really like opensuse list _not_ make trolls like suse-e do. please be positive or stop. jdd It's hard to say, since you don't quote anything, but if you are referring to Pascal's original post, I think he's earned the right to speak his

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread jdd
Keith Kastorff wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 16:40 +0200, jdd wrote: I would really like opensuse list _not_ make trolls like suse-e do. please be positive or stop. jdd It's hard to say, since you don't quote anything, the hole thread is going horrific. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: snip the hole thread is going horrific. jdd Nothing new after Saturday night :-) -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Maaskant
Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 18:54 +0200, schreef Carl-Daniel Hailfinger: Once upon a time, the findutils-locate package provided very similar services. It was dropped because it used too many resources. Then, quite a while later, beagle came, used ten times the resources and everybody either had to

Re: [opensuse] kde3-i18n-ru is not on CDs?

2006-05-21 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Sonntag, 21. Mai 2006 08:36 schrieb Mark Goldstein: It seems kde3-i18n-ru-3.5.1-9.noarch.rpm is missing from i386 set of CDs (at least, I have not checked DVD or x86-64 set). It is not shown in package list in YAST as well. It is there in inst-source though. Am I missing

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Chris Maaskant wrote: Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 18:54 +0200, schreef Carl-Daniel Hailfinger: Once upon a time, the findutils-locate package provided very similar services. It was dropped because it used too many resources. Then, quite a while later, beagle came, used ten times the resources and

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 08:55:59PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: You're right. I use seamonkey to search my mail and gaim to search my chat log. snip I use grepm (a wrapper for grepmail utilizing mutt) for my mail. I don't have any chatlogs. :-) -- houghi http://houghi.org

Re: [opensuse] kde3-i18n-ru is not on CDs?

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 08:54:29PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote: In case you invent CD images that work with normal CDs and CD recorders and can hold 1 GB of data (or more), you are welcome to share your knownledge ;-)) They are called (dual layer) DVDs. ;-) -- houghi

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Maaskant
Op zo, 21-05-2006 te 20:55 +0200, schreef Carl-Daniel Hailfinger: I gues you never realy used beagle because of the way you compare it with locate. It realy isn't the same thing. Can you use locate to find a persons name in a email or in a chat log? I think not. You're right. I use

Re: [opensuse] info for suse slick

2006-05-21 Thread Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no
Andreas Girardet wrote: http://opensuse.linux.co.nz/xgl/readme.rc1 nvidia xgl is currently unverfified. I hope you can test it and provide me feedback. Andreas Is your site down? --- Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Hertweck
houghi wrote: [...] A developer works for the community and should be aware what that community is talking about. The GNOME developers mentioned in this thread are employed by Novell which means they work for Novell and not for the community. I think, Novell decides about the projects for

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread houghi
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:03:38PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: The GNOME developers mentioned in this thread are employed by Novell which means they work for Novell and not for the community. I think, Novell decides about the projects for those developers and what they are allowed to do and

Re: [opensuse] kde3-i18n-ru is not on CDs?

2006-05-21 Thread Mark Goldstein
Hi, On 5/21/06, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems kde3-i18n-ru-3.5.1-9.noarch.rpm is missing from i386 set of CDs (at least, I have not checked DVD or x86-64 set). It is not shown in package list in YAST as well. No - the available space on the CDs is limited, there can't be

Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants

2006-05-21 Thread James Ogley
It would be a pleasure to be corrected if I'm wrong ;) The vast majority of bug fixing (for example) work on GNOME issues in Bugzilla seems to me to be done by ex-Ximians these days -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help