[opensuse-announce] openSUSE Status Meeting 2006/07/04 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT)]

2006-06-28 Thread Sonja Krause-Harder
Hi there, the next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE) next Tuesday at 2006/07/04 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add

[opensuse-factory] control.xml info

2006-06-28 Thread houghi
Is there any info availble on control.xml? I have found many references to the file, but not one explaining anythiong about the file. Changing the file sometimes can be obvious, like removing a module or changing a 'yes' into a 'no' or 'true' into 'false. Other things are less obvious what the

Re: [opensuse-factory] control.xml info

2006-06-28 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jun 28. 2006 18:55]: Is there any info availble on control.xml? I have found many references to the file, but not one explaining anythiong about the file. This should help you further:

Re: [opensuse-factory] control.xml info

2006-06-28 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 07:37:06PM +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jun 28. 2006 18:55]: Is there any info availble on control.xml? I have found many references to the file, but not one explaining anythiong about the file. This should help you further:

Re: [opensuse-factory] control.xml info

2006-06-28 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 09:50:46PM +0200, jdd wrote: I noted several times that there are very valuable info in forgeftp. Can we link freely the wiki to this site? or is that somewhat private? If it is accesible without a password, it is available for everybody to link to. If Novell does not

Re: [opensuse-factory] control.xml info

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 09:50:46PM +0200, jdd wrote: I noted several times that there are very valuable info in forgeftp. Can we link freely the wiki to this site? or is that somewhat private? If it is accesible without a password, it is available for everybody to link to. If

[opensuse-factory] skipping partition module

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time. I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition. it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled

Re: [opensuse-factory] skipping partition module

2006-06-28 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:46:30PM +0200, jdd wrote: Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time. I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition. it's this module

[opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
From http://reverendted.wordpress.com/ A colleague of mine and I just ordered 7,500 DVD's copies of the 10.1 release of openSUSE. Novell does hand them out freely, but mostly at events. We also make openSUSE freely available for download from openSUSE.org. we definitively need to rethink

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Schlander
Onsdag 28 juni 2006 09:08 skrev jdd: From http://reverendted.wordpress.com/ A colleague of mine and I just ordered 7,500 DVD's copies of the 10.1 release of openSUSE. Novell does hand them out freely, but mostly at events. We also make openSUSE freely available for download from

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:02:56AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Onsdag 28 juni 2006 09:08 skrev jdd: From http://reverendted.wordpress.com/ A colleague of mine and I just ordered 7,500 DVD's copies of the 10.1 release of openSUSE. Novell does hand them out freely, but mostly at

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Marcus Meissner wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread James Ogley
We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. Nah, just call it it :) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Schlander
Onsdag 28 juni 2006 11:06 skrev Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Not sure whether that was meant to be a sarcastic remark.. :) But renaming the distro opensuse will also cause problems. - openSUSE Linux 10.2 - that's quite a mouthfull. - All the infrastructure of

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Daniel Bertolo
Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:06 schrieb Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. I guess there should be a clear difference between Novell business products such as SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and Novell-sponsored projects such as openSUSE. Have a look at Redhat. Their

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Peter Flodin
On 6/28/06, Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Marcus Meissner wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. This does lead to the question, why is it called SUSE Linux in the first place? Why isn't just

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Loeffler
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 13:22, Peter Flodin wrote: On 6/28/06, Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Marcus Meissner wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. This does lead to the question, why is it

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Bertolo wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:06 schrieb Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. I guess there should be a clear difference between Novell business products such as SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:22 +0100, James Ogley wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. Nah, just call it it :) Wouldn't that more likely be IT instead of it :-)) IT Linux, if you are looking for linux this is IT. -- Ken

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 12:38 +0200, Daniel Bertolo wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:06 schrieb Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. I guess there should be a clear difference between Novell business products such as SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and Novell-sponsored

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 14:27 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Bertolo wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:06 schrieb Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. I guess there should be a clear difference between Novell

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Loeffler
--snip-- We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Marcus is correct. At corporate marketing discussions are ongoing to rename SUSE Linux with 10.2. The project name stays as is and the distribution will be renamed. Afaik openSUSE is on the short-list. The confusion with openSUSE.org, the

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
Michael Loeffler wrote: --snip-- We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Marcus is correct. At corporate marketing discussions are ongoing to rename SUSE Linux with 10.2. The project name stays as is and the distribution will be renamed. Afaik openSUSE is on the short-list. The

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread PatrickM
Pascal Bleser wrote: New users might now be interested in SUSE Linux because it is part of Novell. But I can tell you for sure that a lot of people like and use SUSE Linux because it is still produced by the highly skilled technical staff that has been doing S.u.S.E. Linux and SuSE Linux in

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Jun 28, 06 15:38:55 +0200, jdd wrote: Michael Loeffler wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Rename it as you like, as long as SUSE is part of the name. The confusion with openSUSE.org, the project and SUSE Linux, the distribution is obvious ... Add a third name, and you will

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt
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Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:22 +0100, James Ogley wrote: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. Just call it SUSE and tell everybody it is open. Nah, just call it it :) Wouldn't that more likely be IT instead of it :-)) IT Linux, if you

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Alexey Eremenko
If it would be me I would stay with SUSE Linux or if this cuases too much confusion - change to openSUSE Linux but *not* to something entirely different. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Siegbert Baude
Martin Schlander schrieb: - the name opensuse would imply that closedsuse also exists. closedsuse existed in the past, before the Novel takeover. Yast was not GPLed for example, which caused the GPL zealots to call it non-open. Ciao Siegbert

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread J Sloan
Daniel Bertolo wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:06 schrieb Marcus Meissner: We will likely rename it for 10.2 anyway. I guess there should be a clear difference between Novell business products such as SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and Novell-sponsored projects such as openSUSE. Have a

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
Siegbert Baude wrote: Martin Schlander schrieb: - the name opensuse would imply that closedsuse also exists. closedsuse existed in the past, before the Novel takeover. Yast was not GPLed for example, which caused the GPL zealots to call it non-open. not GPL, but not closed, it was never

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Daniel Bertolo
Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 14:27 schrieb Pascal Bleser: SUSE has been around for a long time, as a name (even if it was S.u.S.E. and SuSE in the past). I did not say that SUSE should be renamed. I just suggested to seperate the community based SUSE Linux from the Novell business products.

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Yu Safin
On 6/28/06, Daniel Bertolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 14:27 schrieb Pascal Bleser: SUSE has been around for a long time, as a name (even if it was S.u.S.E. and SuSE in the past). I did not say that SUSE should be renamed. I just suggested to seperate the community

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread L. Mark Stone
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 19:30 +0200, Daniel Bertolo wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 14:27 schrieb Pascal Bleser: SUSE has been around for a long time, as a name (even if it was S.u.S.E. and SuSE in the past). I did not say that SUSE should be renamed. I just suggested to seperate the

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Thomas Hertweck
L. Mark Stone wrote: [...] Similarly, I like the Enterprise name for the maintenance-backed products. We then call the normal version SuSE Linux Voyager and the factory build becomes SuSE Linux Deep Space Nine. Really striking names! ;-) Beam me up, Scottie! SCNR, Th.

[opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks Could be the wrong list; if another list is already in place for that topic, please let me know ;) Would it be possible to get access to (open)SUSE artwork ? I mean stuff like the logo as SVG. I'd like to gimp a few wallpapers with a nice,

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
L. Mark Stone wrote: My two cents for product naming/differentiation: I quite like the naming and the pricing (too low pricing is of no interestn given there is a downloadable version, so make all the manual printed and make them for a fee) Novell's SuSE Linux Professional (boxed, with

Re: [opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Pascal Bleser wrote: Could be the wrong list; if another list is already in place for that topic, please let me know ;) Would it be possible to get access to (open)SUSE artwork ? I mean stuff like the logo as SVG. I'd like to gimp a few wallpapers with a nice, big

Re: [opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Thiel wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Pascal Bleser wrote: Could be the wrong list; if another list is already in place for that topic, please let me know ;) Would it be possible to get access to (open)SUSE artwork ? I mean stuff like

Re: [opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Pascal Bleser wrote: Could be the wrong list; if another list is already in place for that topic, please let me know ;) Would it be possible to get access to (open)SUSE artwork ? I mean stuff like the logo as SVG. I'd like to gimp a few wallpapers with a nice,

Re: [opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
Christoph Thiel wrote: Well, but that would have been to easy, wouldn't it? link added here: http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons,_Icons,_Themes__Wallpapers jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread James Ogley
not GPL, but not closed, it was never (AFAIK) - it was only asked to quote when modified It was open source in so far as the source was available and included on release media. It was non-free in so far as unacceptable[1] restrictions were placed on how one could or could not redistribute it.

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt
L. Mark Stone wrote: [...] Similarly, I like the Enterprise name for the maintenance-backed products. We then call the normal version SuSE Linux Voyager and the factory build becomes SuSE Linux Deep Space Nine. Really striking names! ;-) Beam me up, Scottie! SCNR, Th. Or let's make it

Re: [opensuse] (open)SUSE artwork sources

2006-06-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Would it be possible to get access to (open)SUSE artwork ? I mean stuff like the logo as SVG. I'd like to gimp a few wallpapers with a nice, big openSUSE logo on it. This has been asked a few times but stayed without a solution until now, AFAIK. The logo svn is available in bugzilla ;)

Re: [opensuse] SUSE Linux versus opensuse linux naming

2006-06-28 Thread jdd
James Ogley wrote: not GPL, but not closed, it was never (AFAIK) - it was only asked to quote when modified It was open source in so far as the source was available and included on release media. It was non-free in so far as unacceptable[1] restrictions were placed on how one could or could

[opensuse-wiki] Re: Vietnamese translation meets minimal requirement

2006-06-28 Thread Phan Vinh Thinh
Hi, Very sorry about resend this mail. But I think someone forgot it :(. On 5/28/06, Phan Vinh Thinh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I finish it :). Now my work meet minimal requirement. What must I do now to have vi.opensuse.org works? Or only wait? All translated pages attached with this email.

Re: [opensuse-wiki] Re: Vietnamese translation meets minimal requirement

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Lasarsch
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 14:05, Phan Vinh Thinh wrote: Hi, Very sorry about resend this mail. But I think someone forgot it :(. nope, we are on it ... the problem is, as always, i'm quite busy right now. vi ru are the next wikis i setup. We usually sync it outside on Thursdays, but i guess

Re: [opensuse-wiki] Re: Vietnamese translation meets minimal requirement

2006-06-28 Thread Dinar Valeev
thanks On 6/28/06, Martin Lasarsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 14:05, Phan Vinh Thinh wrote: Hi, Very sorry about resend this mail. But I think someone forgot it :(. nope, we are on it ... the problem is, as always, i'm quite busy right now. vi ru are the next wikis