Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Gaël Lams
Hi, 2) What is the proper way to deal with this? This instance of zmd has now been running for 8 hours and has consumed over 120m of CPU time. Should I kill it? Is there an init task I should disable to make it go away permanently? /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop should be enough to stop it (+

Re: [opensuse-factory] speed impression on firefox 2

2006-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Dominique Leuenberger wrote: That was the one I did not think of (I think up to now it was always 'disable' by default. Strangely, I am NOT able to change it using the GUI (by going to edit preferences connection, I just get an error. That error is fixed for beta2 and with the packages

[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] obviously not, so I`ll try again

2006-11-03 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Detlef Steuer wrote: so I´ll try again: Hi, what do others think of yesterday´s deal? Bussiness as usual.. How do you feel? I feel this can be a good thing , but probably unlikely to affect us, nor the buildservice , probably we will not notice any difference. A (very unusual)

SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
James Ogley wrote: I agree, this is their problem, not ours. They know exactly what they must do to solve this issue, there is nothing that we can do. Greg, are you calling on nVidia to GPL their driver code? If so, have you contacted them directly and is there a formal way in which

SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] About ext3 as default and periodic fs checks

2006-11-03 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
That was the main reason I went to reiserfs from ext2, fsck.ext2 of a 20G drive was painful back then, 10x20G, I'd need to power up just before going to bed. Precisely. Ext2 was and is pretty much useless on large filesystems because one needs to take a day off work every 20 boots. With

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:32:03AM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: James Ogley wrote: I agree, this is their problem, not ours. They know exactly what they must do to solve this issue, there is nothing that we can do. Greg, are you calling on nVidia to GPL their driver code? If

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Stefan Dirsch wrote: Thanks for heading this issue in a constructive direction. Could you add some pointers to the reversed engineer driver for NVIDIA GPUs? I possibly add it to 10.2 as optional driver for testing purposes. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ is the main address. Excerpt

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Francis Giannaros
To address a point made earlier: Greg KH wrote: Both of these are third party packages, Ubuntu was forced to stop shipping their pre-built packages a while ago for the obvious legal reasons. That's not true at all (see http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/nvidia-glx ). That is the package for

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cristian, On Thursday 02 November 2006 12:27, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: Is it normal for this process to run on and on like this? Is expected but not normal...it is just another sign that zmd should be bye,bye very

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:22:30PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Stefan Dirsch wrote: Thanks for heading this issue in a constructive direction. Could you add some pointers to the reversed engineer driver for NVIDIA GPUs? I possibly add it to 10.2 as optional driver for testing

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 03 november 2006 15:16 skrev Andreas Jaeger: 1) Is zmd slated for replacement before 10.2 final arrives? No, it will be in 10.2. But you can remove it manually. And you will not lose any functionality as zypper and opensuse-updater can replace rug and zen-updater respectively. It

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fredag 03 november 2006 15:16 skrev Andreas Jaeger: 1) Is zmd slated for replacement before 10.2 final arrives? No, it will be in 10.2. But you can remove it manually. And you will not lose any functionality as zypper and opensuse-updater can

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 03 november 2006 16:15 skrev Randall R Schulz: What is this thing, anyway? Where have you been for the last 7 months? Here you can see the different parts of the packagemanagement in default 10.1+10.2 http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Package-management-in-code10.png And here is how it

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
Andreas, On Friday 03 November 2006 07:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote: ... Won't you fix this constant running? Surely that cannot be normal operation, can it? At this point, it has run up 340 minutes of CPU time. What's it doing with this interminable activity? This is a bug - so, please

Re: [opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd

2006-11-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
Martin, On Friday 03 November 2006 08:04, Martin Schlander wrote: Fredag 03 november 2006 16:15 skrev Randall R Schulz: What is this thing, anyway? Where have you been for the last 7 months? Avoiding and ignoring all the brouhaha about the SNAFUs in 10.1, what do you think? Here you can

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 12:55:50PM +, Francis Giannaros wrote: To address a point made earlier: Greg KH wrote: Both of these are third party packages, Ubuntu was forced to stop shipping their pre-built packages a while ago for the obvious legal reasons. That's not true at all (see

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread B . Weber
That does much of what Novell currently does with Nvidia. Novell pushes all of the burden of support, distribution, and legal issues onto Nvidia. Which brings us back to the question of what Novell's position is for openSUSE compared with their position for SLE. So again, Ubuntu is moving

Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory

2006-11-03 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 05:24:48PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That does much of what Novell currently does with Nvidia. Novell pushes all of the burden of support, distribution, and legal issues onto Nvidia. Which brings us back to the question of what Novell's position is for

Re: [opensuse-factory] About ext3 as default and periodic fs checks

2006-11-03 Thread Alex
This is frighteningly true, here are 2 suggestions, we probably need them both. 1) While an fsck is occurring in non-verbose startup mode we need a message to that effect with a progress bar. 2) On shutdown; if a routine fsck WOULD happen next reboot, the OS asks if the user

Re: [opensuse-factory] About ext3 as default and periodic fs checks

2006-11-03 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Robert Schiele wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:07:13PM +0100, Alex wrote: I'm not a file system specialist and I don't want to become one, but why on earth has a file system in the 21st century to perform time consuming checks - with absolutely no other reasons for

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: factory-extra tree

2006-11-03 Thread Frederic
Hello, Where's located the factory-extra tree? Frédéric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: factory-extra tree

2006-11-03 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:30:45PM +0100, Frederic wrote: Hello, Where's located the factory-extra tree? You can find that stuff on ftp.suse.com and it's mirrors, not on the opensuse.org servers. If you want to know the reason you can subscribe to

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta 1 and kde shutdown

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Pye
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 01:23 +0100, Stephan Binner wrote: On Thursday 02 November 2006 21:29, Jim Pye wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215688 Please add your vote to this bug Care to enlighten me about the sense to vote for a fixed bug? Bye, Steve Steve It was

[opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater questions

2006-11-03 Thread Alex
As a KDE user I have now once more trashed zmd and rug and want to use opensuse-updater and libzypp direct. Version of opensuse-updater is 3.16, libzypp and zypper are installed. 1. When configuring the applet, I just have the option to choose between Novell ZENWorks and Default. Where is

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater questions

2006-11-03 Thread Andreas Hanke
Alex schrieb: As a KDE user I have now once more trashed zmd and rug and want to use opensuse-updater and libzypp direct. Version of opensuse-updater is 3.16, libzypp and zypper are installed. 1. When configuring the applet, I just have the option to choose between Novell ZENWorks and

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater questions

2006-11-03 Thread Alex
You are expecting things from opensuse-updater that it doesn't do. opensuse-updater does _not_ update every package to the most recent version; it installs patches only (like the old SUSEwatcher did), so new packages are pulled in only if they are part of a patch. The factory tree does not

Re: [opensuse-factory] About ext3 as default and periodic fs checks

2006-11-03 Thread Alex
There is no _need_ to do so. It is just an extra level of safety to do regular checks to detect inconsistencies as early as possible. This is like doing backups: You don't _have_ to do them but it is generally considered a wise choice to do so. that something might be wrong, then let

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Michal Hlavac
Dňa Pi 3. November 2006 03:38 Kurt Wall napísal: http://tinyurl.com/y7rcmb Novell has sold out. I don't see how this makes good business sense in the long term, except, of course, for Microsoft and possibly Red Hat. You don't make deals with Microsoft, because they'll find a way to to weasel

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Andreas Hanke
Michal Hlavac schrieb: When I leave M$ (3 years ago) and choose Suse, I felt free... Now I am confusing I am deciding to leave suse and choose something like kubuntu... I like to feel free... Yes, you need to switch to KUbuntu immediately. Because of a corporate agreement between Novell

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michal Hlavac wrote: Dňa Pi 3. November 2006 03:38 Kurt Wall napísal: http://tinyurl.com/y7rcmb Novell has sold out. I don't see how this makes good business sense in the long term, except, of course, for Microsoft and possibly Red Hat. You

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Michal Hlavac
Dňa Pi 3. November 2006 09:07 Andreas Hanke napísal: Michal Hlavac schrieb: When I leave M$ (3 years ago) and choose Suse, I felt free... Now I am confusing I am deciding to leave suse and choose something like kubuntu... I like to feel free... Yes, you need to switch to KUbuntu

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Hanke wrote: Michal Hlavac schrieb: When I leave M$ (3 years ago) and choose Suse, I felt free... Now I am confusing I am deciding to leave suse and choose something like kubuntu... I like to feel free... Yes, you need to switch to

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
Yes, you need to switch to KUbuntu immediately. Because of a corporate agreement between Novell and Microsoft that nobody knows what it is about and that does most likely neither affect you nor the openSUSE project at all. You're hiding your head in the sand if you actually believe this. The

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Magnus Boman
On Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 7:44 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you need to switch to KUbuntu immediately. Because of a corporate agreement between Novell and Microsoft that nobody knows what it is about and that does most likely neither affect

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Friday 03 November 2006 09:13, Pascal Bleser wrote: [...] Just wait and see. Even Sun has a deal with MS, it didn't kill them (if something kills Sun, it's their own management - the same can be said for SUSE btw ;)). cheers Of course it's much better to deal between parties than to fight

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread Dominik Jais
Why do you guys always think that open source is the best and closed source is the hell. It's pretty simple to have a coexistens of both. Open your minde. Open source is not just the best way; it's one way, out of many. And remember the time where Novell Clients where running on Windows systems.

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 10:15 schrieb Dominik Jais: Why do you guys always think that open source is the best and closed source is the hell. It's pretty simple to have a coexistens of both. Open your minde. Open source is not just the best way; it's one way, out of many. And remember the

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:36:40AM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: Hi, On Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 21:38:00, Kurt Wall wrote: Novell has sold out. Let me remember. Nearly exactly 3 Years ago the tune was: SUSE has sold out. Every company that got bought by Novell vanished. SUSE

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 03 November 2006 10:45, Marcus Meissner wrote: A wait and see attitude is definitely called for instead of headless chicken mode. You're forgetting the natural reaction of people. After every announcement, people (frequently the same people in every announcement) say they've been

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Clayton
A wait and see attitude is definitely called for instead of headless chicken mode. Ha ha.. come on... headless chicken mode is so much more entertaining to watch though :-) I love how everyone suddenly becomes an expert, and provides facts they pluck out of thin air. They don't watch the

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread David Canar
Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Reply on 03-11-2006 9:31:52 So far I think it is VERY beneficial for Linux, 1. Microsoft is giving away 70.000 SUSE Linux Enterprise coupons 2. Microsoft is backing up (legally speaking) the MONO, Samba and Open Office projects and any Open Source programmer or

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 11:26 schrieb David Canar: Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Reply on 03-11-2006 9:31:52 So far I think it is VERY beneficial for Linux, 1. Microsoft is giving away 70.000 SUSE Linux Enterprise coupons 2. Microsoft is backing up (legally speaking) the MONO,

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 03 November 2006 10:57, Anders Johansson wrote: You're forgetting the natural reaction of people. After every announcement, people (frequently the same people in every announcement) say they've been using suse for 250 years, but now they are leaving for Ubuntu/Fedora/whatever This

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Friday 03 November 2006 04:08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: I wouldn't call that selling the users down the river. Independent of the fate of Novell the deal will stop worries about MS killing the open source movement with patents. Yes, though it's unclear from the press release whether

SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Joao Paulo Pires
I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/but I can't found the link of flash files in view source code. Any help?Where can I find 'getvideo url' ?Best regards, Joao.Registado no Linux Counterutilizador #412485, http://counter.li.org---[ mensagem original ]---de: James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED]data:

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Kevin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 03 November 2006 04:08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: I wouldn't call that selling the users down the river. Independent of the fate of Novell the deal will stop worries about MS killing the open source movement with patents. Yes, though

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread jdd
Andreas Jaeger a écrit : This one is irrevocable - for ever, and if the GPL account is done in the contract like it's said in the Novell announce, this is not only good for openSUSE but for any app included in openSUSE, even when included in other applications (this is forced by GPL) jdd

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote: I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash files in view source code. Any help? Where can I find getvideo url ? Best regards, Joao. http://www.funktronics.ca/getvideo -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] SPAM: How to add more VM images to XEN in SUSE ?

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Thursday 02 November 2006 10:59 pm, cifroes wrote: Hi, Just followed these instructions: http://en.opensuse.org/Installing_Xen3 and now I have 1 VM up running. Is there any fast way to just copy the installation I'm using as my vm01 and create 2 more VM's? I suppose I can run the

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 11:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote: I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash files in view source code. Any help? Where can I

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Friday 03 November 2006 17:08, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Friday 2006-11-03 at 10:05 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote: ... But if the vendor of my door locks starts a dialog with the local housebreaker association, I'll *immediately* replace all my locks, no matter how much they assure that

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Friday 03 November 2006 14:26, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Yes, though it's unclear from the press release whether the patent ceasefire is in perpetuity, or merely for the duration of the Novell agreement (up to 2012, IIRC).  I got the impression it was the latter, so there is the difficulty

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Roy Schestowitz
___/ On Fri 03 Nov 2006 14:26:15 GMT, [ Andreas Jaeger ] wrote : \___ Kevin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 03 November 2006 04:08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: I wouldn't call that selling the users down the river. Independent of the fate of Novell the deal will stop worries

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread J Sloan
Pascal Bleser wrote: Michal Hlavac wrote: And the OP is citing an article that states: ... technology that makes Linux work on Windows ... How qualified is that ? ;) I have zero interest in running a captive toy linux session on ms windoze. Linux runs best on the bare metal, but running

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Miguel Angel Alvarez
El Viernes, 3 de Noviembre de 2006 18:11, Kevin Donnelly escribió: On Friday 03 November 2006 14:26, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Yes, though it's unclear from the press release whether the patent ceasefire is in perpetuity, or merely for the duration of the Novell agreement (up to 2012, IIRC).

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 11:49 am, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Friday 2006-11-03 at 11:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote: I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash files in view source code. Any help?

SPAM: Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 03 November 2006 18:11, Kevin Donnelly wrote: In particular, is Novell suggesting that there is some truth to the suggestion that parts of Linux infringe patents, No, Novell's position is that there are no infringing parts. This is just a guarantee that if in future something is

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread jdd
J Sloan a écrit : I have zero interest in running a captive toy linux session on ms windoze. Linux runs best on the bare metal, but running linux as a program on an ms windoze peecee gains nothing, but carries costs and risks. there are very big advantages to this. think at all the schools

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 14:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote: Is that a script to save flash streams to a file? I tried it on the Novell webcast and it doesn't work. What's the URL? Let me see. The main page is

[opensuse] emails marked as SPAM

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Why are so many postings marked as SPAM in the subject line? If the mailing list software (or any SPAM filter process attached to it) thinks a mail is SPAM, then this email should never reach the list. It does not make sense to distribute such emails to all list members. On the other hand, if an

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:29:49AM +0100, Rasmus Plewe wrote: SUSE Linux is so much more mature than iranian nuclear technology... I think it is quite suspicious that you have such a deep insight to Iranian nuclear technology. I should report this to the CIA... ;-) Robert -- Robert Schiele

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 03 November 2006 11:18, jdd wrote: J Sloan a écrit : I have zero interest in running a captive toy linux session on ms windoze. Linux runs best on the bare metal, but running linux as a program on an ms windoze peecee gains nothing, but carries costs and risks. there are very

Re: [opensuse] emails marked as SPAM

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 19:23 -, Thomas Hertweck wrote: Why are so many postings marked as SPAM in the subject line? The Bayes database at their spamassassin server gone slighlty bad again. If the mailing list software (or any SPAM filter

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Joao Paulo Pires wrote: I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash files in view source code. Any help? Use Firefox, install the Add-On called UnPlug[1] - this should provide you the URL of embedded objects which can then be downloaded. Cheers, Th. [1]

Re: [opensuse] SPAM: Mouse disappearing

2006-11-03 Thread John Meyer
John Meyer wrote: Does anybody else have a problem where the mouse pointer disappears after the screen goes to sleep? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW,

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Friday 03 November 2006 17:43, Miguel Angel Alvarez wrote: El Viernes, 3 de Noviembre de 2006 18:11, Kevin Donnelly escribió: That is interesting. It would be a good idea for Novell to put out some additional explanatory material in the next few days, addressing the various excitable

Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Friday 03 November 2006 18:35, Anders Johansson wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 18:11, Kevin Donnelly wrote: In particular, is Novell suggesting that there is some truth to the suggestion that parts of Linux infringe patents, No, Novell's position is that there are no infringing parts.

Re: [opensuse] SPAM: Mouse disappearing

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 12:43 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Does anybody else have a problem where the mouse pointer disappears after the screen goes to sleep? Time ago I had to foce kill the screensaver, that did not release the focus. - --

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread J Sloan
jdd wrote: J Sloan a écrit : I have zero interest in running a captive toy linux session on ms windoze. Linux runs best on the bare metal, but running linux as a program on an ms windoze peecee gains nothing, but carries costs and risks. there are very big advantages to this. think

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread jdd
J Sloan a écrit : No, that's bad news - to introduce linux as some sort of dorky toy ms windoze program is damaging to linux and gives a very bad impression of it. not at all. It shows Linux can work very well with very few resources, and this is very good. Anything would be better -

[opensuse] Virtualization for the data centre

2006-11-03 Thread Peter Flodin
On 11/4/06, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Sloan a écrit : I have zero interest in running a captive toy linux session on ms windoze. Linux runs best on the bare metal, but running linux as a program on an ms windoze peecee gains nothing, but carries costs and risks. there are very big

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. a écrit : http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it :-() jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 23:08 +0100, jdd wrote: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it :-() Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread J Sloan
jdd wrote: J Sloan a écrit : I'm not allowed to connect any computer of my own on this net (and I would never allow such thing on my own net!) You would never allow linux on your own net? sometime you have to deal with situations you don't master. I had the ability to use a handfull of

Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Miguel Angel Alvarez
El Viernes, 3 de Noviembre de 2006 19:35, Anders Johansson escribió: On Friday 03 November 2006 18:11, Kevin Donnelly wrote: In particular, is Novell suggesting that there is some truth to the suggestion that parts of Linux infringe patents, No, Novell's position is that there are no

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 6:16 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Friday 2006-11-03 at 23:08 +0100, jdd wrote: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it :-() Then your network is better or nearer the

SPAM: Re: [opensuse] Virtualization for the data centre

2006-11-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
Peter, On Friday 03 November 2006 13:54, Peter Flodin wrote: You guys are missing why industry is so excited by Virtualization and why MS can not allow itself to fall behind. For big business Virtualization is for the data centre. Say you run an insurance company, or a bank. Instead

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 18:38 -0400, James Oakley wrote: Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo download saved nothing in two hours and a half,

[opensuse] How can I change default keyboard layout?

2006-11-03 Thread cifroes
Hi, while installing I chose the wrong keyboard layout so by default it's wrong. How can I change this default? Please note I use openSUSE in text-only mode, only sometimes I use KDE, so please tell me the changes I have to do to KDE and to text mode. Thanks in advance, --cifroes

SPAM: Re: [opensuse] How can I change default keyboard layout?

2006-11-03 Thread Anders Johansson
On Saturday 04 November 2006 00:32, cifroes wrote: Hi, while installing I chose the wrong keyboard layout so by default it's wrong. How can I change this default? Run yast, go to Hardware-Keyboard layout, and select the correct one

RE: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] How can I change default keyboard layout?

2006-11-03 Thread cifroes
Tried it, only changed the layout in KDE, text-mode console still with wrong keyboard layout and other users with wrong one. -Original Message- From: Anders Johansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/3/2006 11:35 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] How can I

SPAM: Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] How can I change default keyboard layout?

2006-11-03 Thread Anders Johansson
On Saturday 04 November 2006 00:36, cifroes wrote: Tried it, only changed the layout in KDE, text-mode console still with wrong keyboard layout and other users with wrong one. Sounds like a bug then. I also tried it, and it worked perfectly. Which layout do you have now, and which one do you

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread SOTL
On Friday 03 November 2006 03:15, Dominik Jais wrote: Why do you guys always think that open source is the best and closed source is the hell. It's pretty simple to have a coexistens of both. Open your minde. Open source is not just the best way; it's one way, out of many. And remember the

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread SOTL
On Friday 03 November 2006 02:02, Michal Hlavac wrote: Dňa Pi 3. November 2006 03:38 Kurt Wall napísal: http://tinyurl.com/y7rcmb Novell has sold out. I don't see how this makes good business sense in the long term, except, of course, for Microsoft and possibly Red Hat. You don't make

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, SOTL wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 02:02, Michal Hlavac wrote: Dÿÿa Pi 3. November 2006 03:38 Kurt Wall napísal: http://tinyurl.com/y7rcmb Novell has sold out. I don't see how this makes good business sense in the long term, except, of course, for Microsoft and

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 17:08, jdd wrote: it would be nice to be able to save a flash stream. Carlos E. R. a écrit : http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it :-() jdd -- Powered by: SuSE Linux

Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe

2006-11-03 Thread Lev Lafayette
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 05:08 +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Kurt Wall wrote: This is now the second time that a distribution and the company behind has sold us down the river. The first time it was OpenLinux and Caldera. Now it is SLES/SLED/openSUSE and Novell. I appreciate the

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread John Meyer
In other words, you were willing to let the roads go to hell, the children go nowhere educationally, and your water go down the drain because of one old fart with a cynical, do-nothing attitude about our political servants? And we wonder why this country is going down stream. SOTL wrote: On

SPAM: Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 03 November 2006 16:51, John Meyer wrote: In other words, you were willing to let the roads go to hell, the children go nowhere educationally, and your water go down the drain because of one old fart with a cynical, do-nothing attitude about our political servants? And we wonder

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 19:39 -0500, steve reilly wrote: it would be nice to be able to save a flash stream. Do it: wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv The problem I have is playing it later. Video is ok, audio

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 21:00, Carlos E. R. wrote: lol, thats why im here, learn something new every day. i was trying to right click on the link and save as this was only saving the link not the file. thanks. The Friday 2006-11-03 at 19:39 -0500, steve reilly wrote: it would be

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 7:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Friday 2006-11-03 at 18:38 -0400, James Oakley wrote: Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo download saved nothing in two hours

Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 21:38, James Oakley wrote: I got the video by wget, but i think im having the same problem as someone else no sound. plays fine when streaming though... streams from some omedia. something. On Friday 03 November 2006 7:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-03 Thread HG
Hi! When I jumped on SuSE (9.0), it was a ... well, ok never mind. SUSE is changing waster than the world I think. On 11/3/06, Kevin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's certainly interesting! Presumably, because of the patent ceasefire, openSUSE will be able to legally include Windows

[opensuse-wiki] SPAM: opensuse-pt mailinglist is ready and pt.opensuse wiki

2006-11-03 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi, I want to thank Henne and Martin for havin created the PT mailing list and all the work they have done to get the PT wiki up and running. Know if just that Usuário thing on the wiki was changed, that will really be graeat. I do not know if you remember the discussion, but basically it is

Re: [opensuse-wiki] SPAM: opensuse-pt mailinglist is ready and pt.opensuse wiki

2006-11-03 Thread Martin Lasarsch
On Friday 03 November 2006 13:24, Hugo Costelha wrote: Hi, I want to thank Henne and Martin for havin created the PT mailing list and all the work they have done to get the PT wiki up and running. Thank you for your contributions to the project. btw: a general announcement about the new

[opensuse-wiki] Missing interwiki page links at en-pt wikis

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos Gonçalves
Hi all, Recently I translated some opensuse wiki pages to Portuguese but no links between the English wiki and the Portuguese wiki (the interwiki links) was created. Therefore, if some Portuguese guys are viewing the English page they cannot see the translated page... I mean, they do not know

Re: [opensuse-wiki] Missing interwiki page links at en-pt wikis

2006-11-03 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-11-03 19:45:33 +, Carlos Gonçalves wrote: Wasn't supposed opensuse wiki automaticly created the interlinks by running a cron job? no. it cant be done automatically. the easiest thing is that you create a interwiki link after you fully translated the page. mostlikely you will have

Re: SPAM: Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse-wiki] SPAM: sitemap

2006-11-03 Thread Rajko M
On Friday 03 November 2006 06:10, jdd wrote: Rajko M a écrit : The idea is similar to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal where only graphic layout is different. probably It is in the very beginning and in the moment I'm looking how to make my work easier with few tools that will download,