Re: [opensuse] Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not

2006-11-10 Thread jdd
John Meyer a écrit : Just did, there's a power after AC failure and a SOL setting, nothing that even looks like shutdown the monitor after a given period of time. I have had frequently the problem of monitor blanking after some time of unactivity, without any mean to prevent this (may be this

Re: [opensuse] Setup Firewall and Router through YaST so I can get High ID on aMule (SuSE 10.1)

2006-11-10 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2006-11-09 at 18:25 +0100, jdd wrote: FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="4662 " FW_SERVICES_EXT_UDP="4665 4672" do you know if the FW_... line can be split in several ones (for example to redirect a lot of ports)? Sure.

Re: [opensuse] Poker sites that run on Linux

2006-11-10 Thread James Ogley
> Hey, kinda ot, but does anybody know any sites other than Yahoo games > that run for Linux? I play PokerStars.com using wine, works an absolute treat, including registration. Also, PokerRoom.com have a browser-based Java version, which they explicitly put a Tux icon next to. -- James Ogley [EM

Re: [opensuse] Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not

2006-11-10 Thread Intrustion Detection Default Aphofis
Dear Patrick, This sounds very much like a comms issue with your modem. Please tel us if this is a NEW problem or has it just started and if just started 'what has changed comms and ISP wise' The particular setting in the modem (and I assume your are on ADSL or DSLAM) is the keep alive optio

[opensuse] [owner] List migrations

2006-11-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hey, Just a heads up. As i just announced we [1] will move lists from lists.suse.com to lists.opensuse.org today. This includes the renaming of suse-linux-e@suse.com to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So effective by today 12:31GMT this list will become the successor of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henne [1] http://list

[opensuse] Bug in Novell Edition of OO - where to report?

2006-11-10 Thread HG
Hi! I found I bug in OO. Really annoying: when I try to open .txt - file with calc, it opens writer instead. This seems to be already fixed (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=42064) in earlier version ("closed because fix available in OOo1.9m78"). However, it is present in the Open

Re: [opensuse] Bug in Novell Edition of OO - where to report?

2006-11-10 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 10 November 2006 11:01, HG wrote: > Hi! > > I found I bug in OO. Really annoying: when I try to open .txt - file > with calc, it opens writer instead. This seems to be already fixed > (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=42064) in earlier > version ("closed because fix availa

Re: [opensuse] Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not

2006-11-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt
> >nope, desktop. > >Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On Thursday 09 November 2006 17:18, John Meyer wrote: >> >>> No problems when I'm working, it runs just fine. >>> >> >> Is this a laptop?Still sounds like a power management problem. Oh god please don't TOFU. -`J' --

Re: [opensuse] Sendmail don't open port 25 ...

2006-11-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt
>> > >> > Why not simply use sendmail? Some of us still prefer sendmail as the >> > MTA. >> >> If someone really wants to use sendmail, more power to him. But if he just >> wants a working MTA, why should he go through the contortions of trying to >> get >> sendmail configured, when postfix is t

Re: [opensuse] Split the packages

2006-11-10 Thread Frank Steiner
Jan Engelhardt wrote >> The /etc and preinstalled /var are not that big and savings will be minor >> comparing to effort. > > The idea is that I would not need to install kde3U (/opt/kde3=250 MB, > YMMV) and OpenOfficeU (most likely just as much) on every client and > instead devote that spac

Re: [opensuse] Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not (SEMI-FIXED)

2006-11-10 Thread John Meyer
The Internet access shut down, although I was able to restart it with rcnetwork restart, so now I've got the error narrowed down. John Meyer wrote: > Update on the monitor: > > Took a look at the menu and found a "Power Saver" setting, which I > turned off. Now what this has to do with the Intern

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Red Hat's take:

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-09-06 22:03]: > > Lots of people think it stopped being SuSE when it became SUSE. > If you are shooting at Novell here, iirc, the change from SuSE to SUSE came before Novell purchased SUSE. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User

[opensuse] Re: [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, > by 12:35 everything should be migrated. It is now. If you encounter any problem let me know! Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire) -

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 05:20:32AM -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: > On 2006-11-10 04:32, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > Hey people, > > > > as promised heres the heads up mail about the list migration. We will > > start to migrate lists around 12:30 GMT [1]. After noon i wont > > accept new subscribers

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 23:23 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > Well, the new machine seems to be largely running with minimal issues. What did you get? > I have several DVDs that are region 1, and they work fine. However, I > also have some that are region 2, and those don't want to play. When I got

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] 10.2 beta 2

2006-11-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
It took us a bit longer due to some blocker fixes that made installation impossible. I'm always announcing on opensuse-announce, so subscribe there if you're interested. Once I start releasing I'll also update the "Most Annoying Bugs page (http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs) with a p

Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] Gstreamer codec

2006-11-10 Thread Joao Paulo Pires
Try Mplayer.Cheers, Joao.Registado no Linux Counterutilizador #412485, http://counter.li.org---[ mensagem original ]---de: Parth Bakshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]data: 30-10-2006 7:11:01 -8para: opensuse@opensuse.org [EM

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Red Hat's take:

2006-11-10 Thread Mark Hounschell
James Knott wrote: > John E. Perry wrote: >> Ken Jennings wrote: >>> ... But they only do that when they're too lazy to flip the switches by >>> hand on their Altairs. >>> >> Hey, I did that! Well the bootloader, at least -- on Digital PDP-8, >> PDP-11, HP 2100, hp21mx, General Automation SPC-16,

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] 10.2 beta 2

2006-11-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/10 15:11 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: > I had mentioned there yesterday that the release > is planned to be 2006-10-11. Hope this helps for the future, 11 October 2006? -- "Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven."

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] dhcpcd terminating on signal 15 - SOLVED

2006-11-10 Thread Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC)
Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote: From Konqueror file:/var/log/localmessages Sep 7 15:46:32 spy dhcpcd[5588]: terminating on signal 15 Why would I be receiving many(5-8 per day)) of these messages in the log file since Sept 7? I read from YAST that dhcpcd gets an IP address and other informati

[opensuse] Email signature command execution help

2006-11-10 Thread Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC)
Hi, I have a file in /home that I use as a signature file. Whatever I write in there is displayed as my signature. In the signature, as you can see below, I would like to have the current machine uptime displayed when the message is put into the Outbox before being sent. I thought that just

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] 10.2 beta 2

2006-11-10 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
 >>> Reply on 10-11-2006 16:44:09 <<<> On 2006/11/10 15:11 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:> > > I had mentioned there yesterday that the release> > is planned to be 2006-10-11.  Hope this helps for the future,> > 11 October 2006? More likely 10 November 2006 :-)

Re: [opensuse] Bug in Novell Edition of OO - where to report?

2006-11-10 Thread HG
Hi! On 11/10/06, Hugo Costelha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 10 November 2006 11:01, HG wrote: > Hi! > > I found I bug in OO. Really annoying: when I try to open .txt - file > with calc, it opens writer instead. This seems to be already fixed > (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.c

Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] Gstreamer codec

2006-11-10 Thread Tony Pott
That nearly made me cry:- you have no idea how long it took me to find out all that stuff. :-) Joao Paulo Pires wrote: Try Mplayer. Cheers, Joao. Registado no Linux Counter utilizador #412485, http://counter.li.org ---

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] 10.2 beta 2

2006-11-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2006/11/10 15:11 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: > >> I had mentioned there yesterday that the release >> is planned to be 2006-10-11. Hope this helps for the future, > > 11 October 2006? ;-) 2006-11-10 ;-) 10th of November, Andreas --

Re: Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse] Gstreamer codec

2006-11-10 Thread Joao Paulo Pires
Does it works ?Joao.Registado no Linux Counterutilizador #412485, http://counter.li.org--[ mensagem original ]---de: Tony Pott [EMAIL PROTECTED]data: 10-11-2006 14:48:04para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cc: opensuse@opensuse.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; as

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Software Updater window

2006-11-10 Thread Jon Clausen
On Tue, 07 Nov, 2006 at 02:08:24 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: > On 2006-11-06 23:31, John Andersen wrote: > >I'd like it if the software updater window would allow resizing of the > >details portion. I often like to see what is changing and why. > > > >Oh, and that last bit. The WHY always

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 11/10/06, Henne Vogelsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey people, as promised heres the heads up mail about the list migration. We will start to migrate lists around 12:30 GMT [1]. After noon i wont accept new subscribers anymore and by 12:35 everything should be migrated. Henne [1] To see w

[opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2006-11-09 at 19:03 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote: > > > > When I code something, I do it in Pascal. > > > > > > I thought real programmers write code at the command line: in DOStalk, > > > copy con filename.exe > > > > > > :-) > > > > X'-) > >

Re: [opensuse] Email signature command execution help

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 16:11 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote: > How can I achieve this and which man pages would assist? As you are using Mozilla/5.0, you must look it up in the Mozilla setup. It may be possible or not, it depends totally on

Re: [opensuse] Setup Firewall and Router through YaST so I can get High ID on aMule (SuSE 10.1)

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 09:03 +0100, jdd wrote: > > FW_TRUSTED_NETS="192.168.1.11,tcp,ftp 192.168.1.11,tcp,ftp-data \ > > 192.168.1.11,tcp,ssh \ > > 192.168.1.1,udp,tftp" > > > > > > It is a bash script, after all :-) > > I don't mean of aest

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 04, 06 13:27:16 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > Do you really think that MS will give the codecs? Yes, but only with > > DRM. > > Video/Audio codecs have nothing to do with DRM. The question is what the > heck do we want with windows media codecs? Theres no real need to have > them. We sh

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Slow 3D with NVidia.

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 01, 06 02:06:30 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > You know, it actually isn't a list. It's a stack. First in, last out. > > > I don't count the numbers of items in my 'list' any more. > > > > I was actually thinking of mine as a double linked list with numerous > > null pointers floating aro

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] nVidia driver [going OT some]

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 01, 06 13:32:05 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Well, I think I remember that I read that long ago as well, but later on > > I read that the typical shutter discs rotate three times as fast as the > > film moves nowadays. I guess they couldn't make the film transport > > mechanism fast enough

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] nVidia driver

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 06, 06 21:36:23 +0100, Peo Nilsson wrote: > I now have reinstalled Suse 10.0 and fully updated it, this because > I´m dual booting with FreeBSD. I reeinstalled 8774 first and 8776 > after that. Prettry quick I reinstalled 8774 again... I just noted that 1.0-9629 is out now. Maybe this is so

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] SuSE 10.1 Remastered Broke

2006-11-10 Thread Clint Tinsley
> On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 13:18 -0700, Clint Tinsley wrote: > > > On Wednesday 08 November 2006 20:56, Clint Tinsley wrote: > > > I attempted an installation from the 5 CD version of SuSE > > > 10.1 Remastered, > > > released a couple of weeks back. It couldn't get a file it needed on CD1 > > > get

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Nvidia drivers cause blank screen loading X

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 05, 06 16:22:21 -0800, Chris Forzetting wrote: > I have an nvidia geforce Go 6150 which is not on the supported hardware > list on the nvidia site, though very close models are both up and down a > numeric list. > > Thanks to your posts, I can get back to nv without reinstalling, but it > d

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Stevens
On Friday 10 November 2006 09:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > You know, older programmers could have a joke like real programming > was done with physical switches; there were old computers you > actually had to load the initial boot program into memory, > programming word by word flipping switches. Or

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Simon Roberts
- Original Message From: Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:11:43 AM Subject: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue? On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 23:23 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > Well, the new machine seems to be largely running wit

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 10, 06 15:11:43 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 23:23 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > > Well, the new machine seems to be largely running with minimal issues. > > What did you get? > > > I have several DVDs that are region 1, and they work fine. However, I > > also have s

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] SuSE 10.1 Remastered Broke

2006-11-10 Thread Joao Paulo Pires
---[ mensagem original ]---de: Clint Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]data: 10-11-2006 9:22:30 -7para: Mike McMullin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; suse-linux-e@suse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assunto: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] SuSE 10.1 Remastered Broke> On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 13:18 -0700, Clint Tinsley wrote: > > > On Wednesd

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Red Hat's take:

2006-11-10 Thread Matt T.
On Friday 10 November 2006 07:49, Darryl Gregorash wrote: > On 08/11/06 21:11, Matt T. wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 November 2006 08:13, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > >> Have you already made you mind up that SUSE is no more? And what > >> basis? > > > > 1) Experience with seeing Novell buying, hyping, ki

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Simon Roberts
- Original Message From: John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:06:11 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] xine/region issue? On Thursday 09 November 2006 22:23, Simon Roberts wrote: > I thought libdvdcss was essentially "region free" and indeed i

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Friday, November 10, 2006 at 10:29:35, Greg Freemyer wrote: > On 11/10/06, Henne Vogelsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > as promised heres the heads up mail about the list migration. > > I know it is late to complain, but I've just tried to update my > filter. > > First you can see the I

[opensuse] RE: [SLE] SPAM: A good read re Microsoft and Novell

2006-11-10 Thread Greg Wallace
On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 @7:49 PM, James Knott wrote: >James Knott wrote: >> James Knott wrote: >>> don wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 06:20 -0500, James Knott wrote: > John Andersen wrote: >> On Tuesday 07 November 2006 16:47, James Knott wrote: >>> simply an agreement not

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Red Hat's take:

2006-11-10 Thread Ed McCanless
On Thursday 09 November 2006 21:46, Ken Jennings wrote: > On Thursday 09 November 2006 21:25, James Knott wrote: > > Darryl Gregorash wrote: > > > On 09/11/06 06:59, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > I thought real programmers write code at the command line: in DOStalk, > > > copy con filename.exe > > > >

[opensuse] No subscribe link on opensuse

2006-11-10 Thread Greg Wallace
To someone at Suse, why is it that there is no "how to subscribe" link on lists.opensuse.org like there is on lists.suse.com? Greg Wallace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 10, 06 09:12:43 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > I was always under the impression the hardware itself held the region. > You can buy drives with no region code set, but windows won't let you > work that way, but Linux will. (Well, at least SuSE 9.3 did). > > But if your drive has it s region

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Nov 10, 06 17:05:48 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: > On Nov 04, 06 13:27:16 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > > Do you really think that MS will give the codecs? Yes, but only with > > > DRM. > > > > Video/Audio codecs have nothing to do with DRM. The question is what the > > heck do we want with

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Ed McCanless
On Friday 10 November 2006 10:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Thursday 2006-11-09 at 19:03 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote: > > > > > When I code something, I do it in Pascal. > > > > > > > > I thought real programmers write code at the command line: in > > > > DOStalk, copy con filename.exe > > > > > > > > :

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Simon Roberts
Oh well, I guess that fits with the observed facts. Pity, I guess I'm screwed then :( Thanks for the info Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz - Original Message From: Matthias Hopf

Re: [opensuse] No subscribe link on opensuse

2006-11-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Friday, November 10, 2006 at 11:54:00, Greg Wallace wrote: > To someone at Suse, why is it that there is no "how to subscribe" link > on lists.opensuse.org like there is on lists.suse.com? Because i didnt add it :) I will add a link to http://en.opensuse.org/Mailing_Lists on monday or

Re: [opensuse] Sendmail don't open port 25 ...

2006-11-10 Thread J Sloan
Jan Engelhardt wrote: Why not simply use sendmail? Some of us still prefer sendmail as the MTA. >>> If someone really wants to use sendmail, more power to him. But if he just >>> wants a working MTA, why should he go through the contortions of trying to >>> get >>> sendmail configured,

[opensuse] Unable to install openSUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Tom Berben
Hello,When I tried to install openSUSE 10.1 ten minutes ago, I got the error "Couldn't find installation CD, starting manual installation". I didn't know what to do so I aborted the installation, booted back into Windows, downloaded openSUSE  10.2 beta 2 and burnt it to the cd's.Then I rebooted the

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 08:57 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > The problem with changing the region code of the drive is that most of > the drives only allow you to change it a limited number of times (about > 5 usually) and after that they lock the

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 10, 06 19:05:55 +0100, Juergen Weigert wrote: > > Once again: There are *no* patent free codecs to the best of my > > knowledge. There are just some codecs which happen to not have companies > > behind them that charge for their inventions. > > Ah, nice catch. > Novell does not distribute a

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 10 November 2006 19:05, Juergen Weigert wrote: > Novell does not distribute any patent infringing code. I think the operative word there is "infringing", meaning code that is shipped as GPL against the will of the patent owner. Code where the patent owner has granted a permanent licens

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 10 November 2006 19:42, Matthias Hopf wrote: > Well, maybe we don't distribute any codecs that infringe M$ patents. I > don't know about their patents, and I don't *want* to know. Someone a few days ago claimed they patented xor. That one would be hard to avoid And of course since Amaz

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
JJ Gitties wrote: > I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to > use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying to make a > difference". Then by golly, it better be a "little guy". There isn't very much about Mark Shuttleworth and his achievements that says

Re: [opensuse] Sendmail don't open port 25 ...

2006-11-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 10 November 2006 19:26, J Sloan wrote: > However, when it comes to ease of MTA config in suse, I think postfix > has sendmail beat. For instance, you can go into yast and click one > button to enable virus/spam scanning - is that also the case when using > sendmail, or does a sendmail ins

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 18:20 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > So gmail is quite capable regarding filtering. Just the input mask > sucks. Just put these > > to:(opensuse -opensuse-factory) OR cc:(opensuse -opensuse-factory) > to:(suse-linux-e) OR c

[opensuse] dvd written with a desktop writer

2006-11-10 Thread jdd
Hello, I have problem with dvd written by a friend of my wife. This is all non computer aware people, so I have little info. the dvd is a RW one. It's used to record tv show. when I have it, I can't read it nowhere in my home. two desktop readers and one windows computers don't read it (no

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 13:09 -0500, Ed McCanless wrote: > > You know, older programmers could have a joke like real programming was > > done with physical switches; there were old computers you actually had to > > load the initial boot program int

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 10:43 -0600, Stevens wrote: > Yeah, I know about keying in a half days work to be able to play command > line blackjack and I wouldn't go back to then for anything. Them wasn't > the good ol' days, nosiree Bob. X-) - --

Re: [opensuse] Sendmail don't open port 25 ...

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 10:26 -0800, J Sloan wrote: > I'm glad sendmail is supported in suse. > > However, when it comes to ease of MTA config in suse, I think postfix > has sendmail beat. For instance, you can go into yast and click one > button t

Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2006-11-10 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Nov 10, 06 20:06:58 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Friday 10 November 2006 19:05, Juergen Weigert wrote: > > Novell does not distribute any patent infringing code. > > I think the operative word there is "infringing", meaning code that is > shipped > as GPL against the will of the patent

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread W. D. Allen
Sure sounds familiar! Another old geezer end - Original Message - From: "Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming On Friday 10 November 2006 09:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: You know, older programmers could ha

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 20:10 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Friday 2006-11-10 at 18:20 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > > So gmail is quite capable regarding filtering. Just the input mask > > sucks. Just put these > > > > to:(opensuse -op

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
Carlos E. R. wrote: > But I remember buying the old pcmagazine and typing rows of > hexadecimal as "data" lines for a basic program that would then create > a tiny .com program like "ted.com". Back in highschool we had a 16bit minicomputer with a grand 32K of core-memory. Boot-strapping it mean

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
Stevens wrote: > I know that a lot of the software that I see now is a result of CASE > tools, which partially explains the bloat that all seem to have. CASE tools are really a thing of the past. Seer*HPS, IBM AD/Cycle etc. are all long gone. I haven't seen a CASE tool mentioned anywhere for qu

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Stan Glasoe
On Friday November 10 2006 12:38 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Friday 2006-11-10 at 08:57 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > > The problem with changing the region code of the drive is that most of > > the drives only allow you to change it a limited number of times (about > > 5 usually) and after that

Re: [opensuse] dvd written with a desktop writer

2006-11-10 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 10 November 2006 14:16, jdd wrote: > Hello, > > I have problem with dvd written by a friend of my wife. This > is all non computer aware people, so I have little info. > > the dvd is a RW one. It's used to record tv show. > > when I have it, I can't read it nowhere in my home. two > deskt

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Red Hat's take:

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:22]: > Also, CP/M was around before the Trash-80. ;-) Does a VIC-20 count?? -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Russbucket
On Fri November 10 2006 11:51, Per Jessen wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > > But I remember buying the old pcmagazine and typing rows of > > hexadecimal as "data" lines for a basic program that would then create > > a tiny .com program like "ted.com". > > Back in highschool we had a 16bit minicompute

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:23]: > I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to > use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying to make a > difference". Then by golly, it better be a "little guy". You are just _threatening_, or you would be g

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] OT Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Steve Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:23]: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:30:25 -0500 > Fred A. Miller wrote: yes he did. Your point? -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US12447

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Mike
On Friday 10 November 2006 20:48, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > And this list could remain a little lighter in the volume of email > submitted as well as less top posting and OT emails (the very reason > I left suse-linus-e). Haven't changed a bit.. Looks like my time on this one will be short. You

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Stevens
On Friday 10 November 2006 13:57, Per Jessen wrote: > > CASE tools are really a thing of the past. Seer*HPS, IBM AD/Cycle > etc. are all long gone. I haven't seen a CASE tool mentioned > anywhere for quite some time. (and I read the IEEE Spectrum, > Computing and c't regularly). Modelling tools

Re: [opensuse] Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Intrustion Detection Default Aphofis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:19]: > Dear Patrick, > > This sounds very much like a comms issue with your modem. > > Please tel us if this is a NEW problem or has it just started and if > just started 'what has changed comms and ISP wise' I believe that

RE: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Administrator
> Yeah, I know about keying in a half days work to be able to > play command line blackjack and I wouldn't go back to then > for anything. Them wasn't the good ol' days, nosiree Bob. I have a certain nostalgia for the "old days" (yes, I've booted computers by loading the bootstrap using front-pane

RE: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] xine/region issue?

2006-11-10 Thread Administrator
> On Thursday 09 November 2006 22:23, Simon Roberts wrote: > > I thought libdvdcss was essentially "region free" and indeed it > > reports some success with the key management, but also reports at > > least one failure > > I was always under the impression the hardware itself held the region. > Yo

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* W. D. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 15:08]: > Sure sounds familiar! > > Another old geezer :^) >From a youngster who used to run two teletype tapes against each other to encrypt tranmission over the buried trans-ocean cable, remembering trans-oceanic telephone conversations where you

Re: [opensuse] "Real" programming [Was: [SLE] Red Hat's take:]

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 14:46]: > Lucky you! I don't think any of my teachers new what a computer or a > program was. I had a Texas Instruments Programmable Calculator TI-58C, > with a wonderfull 500 program steps memory (shared with storage memory > space, so you never real

[opensuse] gmail headers

2006-11-10 Thread Primm
When trying to see headers in gmail I can't get the 'more options' option. I get 'show details' where it should be instead. Clicking that does not bring up the header. Firefox 2.0 under 10.1. Has it changed from 1.5 maybe? Sorry if it's staring me in the face but I know from google that it *shou

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 10 November 2006 22:06, Mike wrote: > On Friday 10 November 2006 20:48, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > And this list could remain a little lighter in the volume of email > > submitted as well as less top posting and OT emails (the very reason > > I left suse-linus-e). > > Haven't changed a

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 16:28]: > > Haven't changed a bit.. Looks like my time on this one will be short. > You never give up. Seems he is just asking for politeness and consideration. You provide those, even with pointed comments :^). Why not expect them from everyone? -- Pat

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread JJ Gitties
On 11/10/06, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JJ Gitties wrote:> I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to> use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying to make a> difference". Then by golly, it better be a "little guy". There isn't very much about Mar

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread JJ Gitties
On 11/10/06, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:23]:> I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to> use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying to make a > difference". Then by golly, it better be a "litt

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 10 November 2006 15:51, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:23]: > > I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to > > use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying to make a > > difference". Then by golly, it better

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 10 November 2006 12:44, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Friday 10 November 2006 22:06, Mike wrote: > > On Friday 10 November 2006 20:48, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > > And this list could remain a little lighter in the volume of email > > > submitted as well as less top posting and OT emails

Everyone stumped? Re: [opensuse] HELP! cloop module compiled in a new kernel - most complicated linux related task ever?

2006-11-10 Thread ted leslie
[still beating my head on wall] On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 23:43 -0500, ted leslie wrote: > I have never been stump on anything Linux related until now, > > I can't get cloop to work on the latest kernel. > > I need to update the suse10.1 live DVD to the new kernel > as it appears to be having panic

[opensuse] Re: [SLE] SuSE 9.1, glibc, NTPL and wine

2006-11-10 Thread Osho GG
On 11/8/06, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 03:36:27PM -0800, Osho GG wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with wine on my SuSE 9.1 installation. It seems that > since wine 0.9.18 version, I can not run wine. it always gives me this > error: > I looked into wine da

Re: [opensuse] gmail headers

2006-11-10 Thread Clayton
When trying to see headers in gmail I can't get the 'more options' option. I get 'show details' where it should be instead. Clicking that does not bring up the header. Firefox 2.0 under 10.1. Has it changed from 1.5 maybe? Sorry if it's staring me in the face but I know from google that it *shoul

Re: [opensuse] gmail headers

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-10 at 22:42 +0100, Primm wrote: > When trying to see headers in gmail I can't get the 'more options' option. I > get 'show details' where it should be instead. Clicking that does not bring > up the header. Firefox 2.0 under 10.1.

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 11/10/06, JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/10/06, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 13:23]: > > I am migrating to Ubuntu because, the way I see it, if I am going to > > use an alternative OS to "help the little guy who is trying

Re: [opensuse] No subscribe link on opensuse

2006-11-10 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 10 November 2006 09:23, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday, November 10, 2006 at 11:54:00, Greg Wallace wrote: > > To someone at Suse, why is it that there is no "how to subscribe" link > > on lists.opensuse.org like there is on lists.suse.com? > > Because i didnt add it :) > > I

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* JJ Gitties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-10-06 17:32]: > I am not kidding. You are still here! And now you are trolling... -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Alb

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] [owner] Heads up! Migration around 12:30 GMT

2006-11-10 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2006-11-10 13:10, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > Still, if the list was called opensuse-en, there would be no need to > substract the rest ;;-) Indeed there would not!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional com

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread J Sloan
JJ Gitties wrote: > I am not kidding. My employer is a windows shop. I use linux for mostly > network analysis stuff, security scanning and the odd one of > non-critical server here and there. I always made them dish out for the > boxes for anything that got installed. It's a pittance compared to

Re: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] A five year deal with Microsoft to dump Novell/SUSE

2006-11-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 10 November 2006 23:10, JJ Gitties wrote: > I am not kidding. My employer is a windows shop. [...] > The last 10.1 box they bought is the last one they are buying until > Microsoft is out of SUSE's hair. Schizophrenic, your employer?

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