Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Joe Sloan wrote: Robert Smits wrote: On December 22, 2007 06:00:53 pm James Knott wrote: About the only thing in Linux that requires a reboot is a kernel update. However, some configuration changes may require restarting some service. Yes. For example, tonight I changed the address of the ai

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Jerry Houston wrote: Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll point them out here, in case anyo

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Jerry Houston wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think "what idiot wrote this" but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is correct though, it wouldn't be the first time so

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Robert Smits wrote: On December 22, 2007 06:00:53 pm James Knott wrote: About the only thing in Linux that requires a reboot is a kernel update. However, some configuration changes may require restarting some service. Yes. For example, tonight I changed the address of the airport I get weat

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-24 Thread James Knott
Robert Smits wrote: > On December 22, 2007 06:00:53 pm James Knott wrote: > > >> About the only thing in Linux that requires a reboot is a kernel >> update. However, some configuration changes may require restarting some >> service. >> >> > > Yes. For example, tonight I changed the address

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-23 Thread Joe Sloan
Robert Smits wrote: > On December 22, 2007 06:00:53 pm James Knott wrote: > >> About the only thing in Linux that requires a reboot is a kernel >> update. However, some configuration changes may require restarting some >> service. >> > > Yes. For example, tonight I changed the address of the air

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-23 Thread Robert Smits
On December 22, 2007 06:00:53 pm James Knott wrote: > > About the only thing in Linux that requires a reboot is a kernel > update. However, some configuration changes may require restarting some > service. > Yes. For example, tonight I changed the address of the airport I get weather info from

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-22 at 19:50 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 19:43:50 Jerry Houston wrote: (1) SHOULD I be able to run crontab as a standard user? Do I need to add my user account to a specific group in order to b

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Schneider
James Knott pecked at the keyboard and wrote: > Jerry Houston wrote: >> Joe Sloan wrote: >> >>> My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think "what idiot >>> wrote this" but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can >>> find a copy of that and read the context. If my fi

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: > Joe Sloan wrote: >>> "You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take >>> effect." >>> >> >> Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the >> book say to schedule the task with cron? >> > > No. I think I mentioned earlier that I used

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: >> "You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take >> effect." >> > > > Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book > say to schedule the task with cron? > No. I think I mentioned earlier that I used the YaST System Backup modu

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread James Knott
Jerry Houston wrote: > Joe Sloan wrote: > >> My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think "what idiot >> wrote this" but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can >> find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is >> correct though, it wouldn't be t

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: > The exact quote on that page, following the section on setting up an > automated backup, is: > > "You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take > effect." Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book say to schedule the ta

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: > My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think "what idiot > wrote this" but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can > find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is > correct though, it wouldn't be the first time some well meaning

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: > Joe Sloan wrote: >>> Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. >>> Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. >>> >> Eh? I doubt that. I can't envision any possible scenario where such an >> action would require a linux reboot.

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: >> Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. >> Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. >> > > Eh? I doubt that. I can't envision any possible scenario where such an > action would require a linux reboot. Perhaps someone cut and p

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: > Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: > > I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my > SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in > the notes there. I'll point them out here, in c

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Schneider
Jerry Houston pecked at the keyboard and wrote: > Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: > > I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my > SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in > the notes there. I'l

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll point them out here, in case anyone else is in the same

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Anders Johansson
On Saturday 22 December 2007 19:43:50 Jerry Houston wrote: > (1) SHOULD I be able to run crontab as a standard user? Do I need to > add my user account to a specific group in order to be able to do that? Yes you should. If you run crontab -e as a normal user, it should let you edit the crontab f

[opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
I'm still having issues with scheduling backups, and I resolved to get them settled today. I could sure use some advice. To summarize: I've gone through the motions to set up two kinds of backups using YaST. One is a full system backup that I'd like to schedule for once a week (and also run it