Hello,
I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
Novell in order to be able to activate Yast Online
Update even when I chose the OSS version. This made
me abort the installation.
I am SuSE user since 1995, but I absolutely dislike
to be blackmailed to disclose any bit of my privacy.
IP
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:12:42AM +0200, Erhard Sanio wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
> Novell in order to be able to activate Yast Online
> Update even when I chose the OSS version. This made
> me abort the installation.
>
> I am SuSE user since 1995, but
Hi,
On Friday 12 May 2006 23:12, Erhard Sanio wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
> Novell in order to be able to activate Yast Online
> Update even when I chose the OSS version. This made
> me abort the installation.
>
> ...
>
> Is there a way to circumvent tha
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:19:45AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> - You can restrict the information it sends on your
> hardware and system to a minimum.
For some people minimum is still too much, although it is very obvious
that the data that is send has only statistical use. The moment you se
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:56:02AM +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:19:45AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > - You can restrict the information it sends on your
> > hardware and system to a minimum.
>
> For some people minimum is still too much, although it is very obvious
> th
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:23:59PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 12 May 2006 23:12, Erhard Sanio wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
> > Novell in order to be able to activate Yast Online
> > Update even when I chose the OSS version. T
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 09:35:30AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> You could be behind a proxy too which hides your ip address.
> Your provider likely has one.
Unfortunatly the proxy in the screen 'Network configuration' is at the
bottom. I did not see it. Also many proxies do not hide your IP.
A
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 09:40:09AM +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:23:59PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Friday 12 May 2006 23:12, Erhard Sanio wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
> > > Novell in order to be able
Marcus Meissner wrote:
You could be behind a proxy too which hides your ip address.
Your provider likely has one.
and I use one most of the time to get access to my own web
server :-)
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On 5/13/06, Erhard Sanio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there a way to circumvent that annoying attempt
on my privacy? Otherwise this means goodbye SuSE.
I would regret, but other Linux projects do not try
to force me to deliver my secrets to them
sincerely, E. Sanio
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On 5/13/06, Peter Flodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/13/06, Erhard Sanio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to circumvent that annoying attempt
> on my privacy? Otherwise this means goodbye SuSE.
> I would regret, but other Linux projects do not try
> to force me to deliver my secre
On Sat, 13 May 2006, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> I personally don't like the collection of any information. Though it
> doesn't stress me.
>
> Here in Australia there isn't a decent mirror to use (the ones listed on
> the opensuse.org site are dreadfully behind and are never updated). As
> such I
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 07:30:43PM +1000, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> Statistics for usage -- I can understand... though some more thought could
> have gone into it. I understand 'download' numbers are hard to collect and
> in any instance -- 1 download could be installed numerous times.
If I download
On Saturday 13 May 2006 10:08, Peter Flodin wrote:
> On 5/13/06, Erhard Sanio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to circumvent that annoying attempt
> > on my privacy? Otherwise this means goodbye SuSE.
> > I would regret, but other Linux projects do not try
> > to force me to deliver my
Most of that information was captureable when you downloaded opensuse
a bit paranoid eh? If you're so paranoid, you 1) never should have
connected to your ISP b/c they already captured more info about you than
OpenSUSE's servers, 2) never should have emailed your concern here - do
you know
> Von: "Peter Flodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I find it ironic that somebody who has such concerns about their
> privacy is sending an unusually large amount of contact information to
> a listserver run by the same company.
Peter,
My concerns do in no way mean that I am shy or paranoic.
I stron
Am Samstag, 13. Mai 2006 08:12 schrieb Erhard Sanio:
> Hello,
>
> I realized that in 10.1, I am forced to register at
> Novell in order to be able to activate Yast Online
> Update even when I chose the OSS version. This made
> me abort the installation.
>
> I am SuSE user since 1995, but I absolute
Thanks for your response and all other.
Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way
and should be abandoned. Politely asking for some information
is a totally different thing. I would not hesitate to tell
the project people a lot about hardware, software and
general usage of Linux on
Erhard Sanio wrote:
Thanks for your response and all other.
Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way
and should be abandoned. Politely asking for some information
is a totally different thing. I would not hesitate to tell
the project people a lot about hardware, software and
gene
> this time is your signature lesser informative, but there is trace left
> in previous message :-)
Sure it is. If you ever come to Berlin during the weekend
and don't know where to stay, you have the address and
the phone numbers :)
(This applies to all of you reading here *g*)
> It is just
Erhard Sanio wrote:
this time is your signature lesser informative, but there is trace left
in previous message :-)
Sure it is. If you ever come to Berlin during the weekend
and don't know where to stay, you have the address and
the phone numbers :)
(This applies to all of you reading here *g
Rajko M wrote:
> [...]
> I can see that you was upset, but I can see from other postings that you
> accepted other reasons too, which mean that you are reasonable man.
> Sincerely I was upset too at first, but than I looked what they've
> asked; just a bit more or comparable to what usually lea
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 11:42:01AM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> I don't think anybody here has a problem with the kind of information
> that is submitted.
Erhard Sanio had a problem with it.
> It seems to be only technical information - at least
> at the moment, and some parts of it are publi
houghi wrote:
> On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 11:42:01AM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
>> I don't think anybody here has a problem with the kind of information
>> that is submitted.
>
> Erhard Sanio had a problem with it.
No, he had a problem with the way the registration works, not with the
informat
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> > I have long stopped being paranoid, because I know I am followed.
> > Especially on the Internet.
>
> This should not be an excuse to make it worse! Your behaviour is just a
> sign of resignation. The problem has nothing to do wi
houghi wrote:
I have long stopped being paranoid, because I know I am followed.
Especially on the Internet.
houghi
This one is good :-D
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houghi wrote:
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
I have long stopped being paranoid, because I know I am followed.
Especially on the Internet.
This should not be an excuse to make it worse! Your behaviour is just a
sign of resignation. The problem has nothing to do
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 09:28:45AM -0500, Rajko M wrote:
> houghi wrote:
> >On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> >>>I have long stopped being paranoid, because I know I am followed.
> >>>Especially on the Internet.
> >>This should not be an excuse to make it worse! You
Hi all,
On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:28, Erhard Sanio wrote:
> Thanks for your response and all other.
>
> Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way
> and should be abandoned. Politely asking for some information
> is a totally different thing. I would not hesitate to tell
> the projec
Michael Loeffler wrote:
> [...]
>
> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion.
>
> [...]
Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional
facts ;-) One fact is that the name "registration" has been chosen very
injudiciously for such a process. With such a name
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> Michael Loeffler wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>
> Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional
> facts ;-) One fact is that the name "registration" has been chosen very
> inj
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:34:33AM +0100, PatrickM wrote:
> Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> > Michael Loeffler wrote:
> >
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> But maybe Novell was already planning for the future and there is a good
> reason for calling this process "registration"... ;-)
So how would you call the process then where a system registers data, like
the data that is collected
Michael Loeffler schrieb:
> On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:28, Erhard Sanio wrote:
>> Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way
>> and should be abandoned.
> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion.
>
> We're talking abouth the automatic Onling Update Configuration. The
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:54:43AM +0200, Siegbert Baude wrote:
> For what purpose do you need a "unique identifier"? As a suggestion, I
> would leave out anything "uniqe" and call the process "net optimization"
> instead of "registration", then everybody would welcome this nice
> feature, instead
Am Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 08:54 schrieb Siegbert Baude:
> For what purpose do you need a "unique identifier"?
If the stats gained from the registration should be worth anything, I guess
it's important to be able to sort multiple registrations out.
Daniel
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Am Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 09:25 schrieb houghi:
> I don't see this negative naming of calling it registration, especially as
> there is an opt-out.
As it *is* a registration it should also be called registration.
>
> What I would do is calling the 'Later' something that will make it clear
> that
Daniel Bauer schrieb:
> Am Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 08:54 schrieb Siegbert Baude:
>> For what purpose do you need a "unique identifier"?
> If the stats gained from the registration should be worth anything, I guess
> it's important to be able to sort multiple registrations out.
Did you read what
houghi wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
>> But maybe Novell was already planning for the future and there is a good
>> reason for calling this process "registration"... ;-)
>
> So how would you call the process then where a system registers data, like
> th
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:52:49PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> We can't change it (only Novell can do that) and Novell might have had a
> good reason to call it registration. So be it!
I agree with most of your posting, especialy the part that in the past
there was some confusion that still ex
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